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Reached max apps, now what Apple?

kdarling said:
It's amusing is that some people still prattle on about how other phones are trying to "copy the iPhone UI".

Nobody wants to copy the Home page. It is way too simplistic for serious users.

The fairly static Home page design is one reason why so many people jailbreak. Even users of other phones are no longer installing iPhone lookalike start pages. (What's hot for other phones right now is copying the HTC TouchFlo 3D style. I suspect Apple will eventually copy its cool weather animations. And they should. They're fun.)

Apple had a chance to create something unique, with clever ways of organizing and displaying active personal information, but they opted for a simple 1980's style icon grid... without even 1980's folder capability.

The grid makes sense when you realize they originally didn't want to support third party native apps, or even web apps. The whole idea was to have a simpler phone with just a few nice app choices and no submenus.

But the world and the iPhone have moved on, and Apple will have to come up with at least an optional improvement sooner or later.
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Actually Apple was brilliant to go with the very simple and easy to use interface that they did.

There are plenty of more sophisticated user interfaces out there for "power users" but that's not really the target market for Apple with OSX Mobile. If there's anything to be said it's that they are trying to make the iPhone as accessible and simple to use for as many people as possible.

If that means that a few "power users" are crying in their cheerios then that's a price they are apparently willing to pay.
 
jmpage2 said:
Correction, 144 apps is not enough for you. I think you are going to find you are in the extreme minority on this one and in all likelihood you DO have apps installed that you don't open for days, weeks or months at a time.

The point I was making is that Apple could double it to 18 pages of apps tomorrow and people would start another thread soon afterwards moaning about how 288 apps is far too few, they've filled it up and they need more.

Apple has far bigger fish to fry than adding additional app pages for the .1% OCD individuals like yourself who seem to have a problem with juggling between hundreds of iphone applications.
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You may be correct on this. This surprises me though, because the apps are a lot of fun and I am quite addicted to installing apps and trying them out. I just want everyone else to cheer loudly for the capability to have more apps installed available - what can it hurt and how hard can it be? Hey I'd even be happy with 9 screens per sub menu, and the apps could be organized into the same categories as they sell them through the Appstore automatically on the iphone. It's not a big stretch, and I doubt there are any issues. (I guess at this point, I could admit that I am a 0.1% guy and just jailbreak and install that special app that does this feature, but I am still hoping to sell other readers here on the idea so it gets heard by Apple). If I can store more apps on my iPhone, I'll buy more, but seriously, I won't be paying for apps that have to sit uselessly in iTunes, and be "hand picked" and sync'd up to the iphone. I'm just not going to do that procedure for a carpenter level, or a psychedelic flashlight, not to mention a kids spelling quiz, kids math program, kids book, and a pile of games, and two dynometers and so on and so on. I don't want those apps often, but I want them there when i need them.

Right now it's like - "oh yeah I have an iPhone app that can do that - but it's not installed right now - I could download it right now I guess, but that'll take 3 minutes - ah forget it it's not that important" - but if you want to use dynometer in your friends new car right at that moment, that's how it plays out when the number of installed apps is limited.

I rarely sync my iphone to iTunes actually, I hate doing it. I hardly ever use it to listen to music. I mostly use it for calling around, and checking news and sending Emails and the camera for utility photographs.
 
I would think that if there is a 32gb iphone announced tomorrow that they would double the pages.

Who knows though? We shall see! :D
 
jmpage2 said:
Actually Apple was brilliant to go with the very simple and easy to use interface that they did.
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Oh, I totally agree. The whole idea was to be super simple to use. And that works if there's very little you can do with a device.

Once users get familiar with the phone and more complicated apps arrive, though, there's often a natural desire to organize and personalize it to fit their own needs and desires. That's where other, older phone UIs excel. They've already been through the user maturation cycle that Apple is just starting.

Apple's big challenge is to come up with a way to allow for customizaton and active home pages, without ending up looking like every other smartphone.
 
Other than like Email and message indicators on the home screen, what are you all looking for?

The iPhone is simple because it's the slate on which other things exist. If an advanced app needs an advanced UI, it can have it - Apple's not stopping that.

I mean, if you're about putting the weather, your stocks, email preview, todo list, notes, mini photos, and whatever else on the home screen because you think you "need" it ..... you're getting into "the car that Homer made" territory.
 
cellocello said:
I mean, if you're about putting the weather, your stocks, email preview, todo list, notes, mini photos, and whatever else on the home screen because you think you "need" it ..... you're getting into "the car that Homer made" territory.
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The Homer was a pretty sweet ride though.....
 
I actually just realized I am on page 9 too, just the top of it. Didn't know they only had 9 pages, why on eath would they do that? pretty f. stupid huh?

btw, it really does not take that much to feel in the apps, nor time, nor money, since there are a lot free ones, and it doesn't mean you use all of them, but some come in handy when they come, iphone is suppose to be a switch blade of sort, the fact that you have an app working as a free level say doesn't mean you ll use it all the time, doesn't mean you are going to delete it either though.

It's a stupid, useless rule this one for the nine pages, let's make a little fuss about it and apple will retract it. :(:mad:
 
milani said:
129 applications (16 apps per page x 9 pages = 144 apps - the 15 stock apps taking up home screen space) does not necessarily = 7 + GB of data. That's my point. Oh, and if Apple wants to market the iPhone as a serious gaming platform, they had better get rid of the 9 page limit, because there are already 915 games on the App Store!
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Oh dear. 144 apps. You can have 144 apps on your phone, do you need anymore? No. I'd like to see you carry around 144 Nintendo DS or PSP games in your pocket. You don't need more then 144, its a heck of a lot. :rolleyes:
 
Anuba said:
Yeah, I'd say it's a clear cut case of backdoor bragging.
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It's not bragging he is asking a question, it's not hard to fill up 9 pages. To me it's dumb everyone is telling him he has useless apps, how do you know? What's useless to you may not be to him. For instance alot my apps are what I call toilet apps (you figure it out :)) and to me they are very useful considering their purpose. I mean from what you all are saying I should also remove all unwanted apps from my PC, buy a cell phone plan for exactly the number minutes I use, deleted all barely listened to songs off of my iPhone, and hey why fill up the gas tank, it takes up too much time to fill all the way up anyway, also DELETE all unlistened. My point people use their things they way THEY like to not the way YOU want them to use it. I think it's a valid question, and if you don't know the answer why respond? Anyway I would love to max out my iPhone and/or experiment with it more to find out it's limits and drawbacks.

By the way to the OP the iPod memory size was a perfect example. Just my thoughts have fun everyone....
 
Excellerator said:
Anyone know if this 144 app limitation is fixed in 3.0? I hope so.
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What I heard is that some of the betas had the original 9 pages of apps increased to 11, allowing for an increase from 144 to 176 apps.

And, no, I don't think you're OCD. In fact, it shocked me when I first heard that there was a limit (other than available memory). If Microsoft did the same for Windows, limiting how many applications you could install, there would be a howl heard right round the planet, and no one would be talking OCD.
 
It would be interesting to see the results if the iPhone had a mode where the most used apps bubbled up to the first screens and the least used ones would wind up on the last screens. Making it easy to delete the least used ones. Of course, this would make it hard to find apps on which screens, until app moving calmed down.
 
FunkyTang said:
It would be interesting to see the results if the iPhone had a mode where the most used apps bubbled up to the first screens and the least used ones would wind up on the last screens. Making it easy to delete the least used ones. Of course, this would make it hard to find apps on which screens, until app moving calmed down.
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That's a really good idea, similar to the start menu in windows.

But anyways, to the OP. If you install categories, I think you can pretty much have unlimited apps.
 
milani said:
Well said!
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I do think that it's a silly limit (actually the pages method is plain silly and needs to be rethought) I just don't think there are 144 good apps in the app store. I haven't exactly been frugal with my purchases and right now I only have the bare essentials. Two pages of apps with twelve third party apps installed. Four of which are games, so I might be kicking those off.
 
I know Iam late here..but here is my opinion on why some (including) may want to be able to add unlimited apps on the iPhone.

One reason may be that you want to load all the 1000-2000 games out there on your iPhone so when you are on the road you have access to them and you are a hardcore gamer.

That's just one example!

Basically, why should we be limitted on how many apps we can have? We are allowed to have 1 app only so we should be allowed to have 1000 if we want to! The argument where we say you don't need them all does not stand as we want to have the game or apps ready on our phone at all time! :)
 
Seeing as the thread got restarted - hasn't Apple now made it capable of having a lot more apps than pages of apps allows, and you just search for the rest via Search function? Or are you still limited to x number of pages of apps?
 
nya13 said:
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One reason may be that you want to load all the 1000-2000 games out there on your iPhone so when you are on the road you have access to them and you are a hardcore gamer.

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Basically, why should we be limitted on how many apps we can have? We are allowed to have 1 app only so we should be allowed to have 1000 if we want to!...
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Spoken like a spoilt child.

I WANT, I WANT, I WANT, I WANT. :eek:
 
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