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Originally posted by iJon
i agree with yo utoo, did you notice nobody commented on my list of the top 10 games from pc, and we had none them, so much for the cream of the crop.

iJon
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Blizzard games are the cream of the crop. So are id games. Unreal tends to be considered at least a "top ten" game with every successive release too.

I would go back and look at your list, but if you are saying that we don't have the cream of the crop based on that list I would have to refer you to the wall full of "Game of the Year" awards which have been given to each one of the last...like, five Blizzard games, and id games, and the Unreal games....don't make me go back to Bungie again, but this applied to them too.... If your list is the cream of the crop, these games are the creme de la creme.

I guess it really depends on whether or not you need a large game catalogue on your computer, or whether you are satisfied playing the majority of the very best computer games on your computer and playing the very best of console games on your console...I hold the same standard either way, really. But I'm just a snob that way...same with music......

Oh, and blah blah blah....emulator....
 
Back on topic.. a bit

So Connectix made FWB stop making Real PC a few years ago?
How long will it take Microshop to "buy out" Real PC?

"real UNIX app, SMP support, low level hardware support"
"dunno if we use altivec"
I wonder if this FSB spokesman works at Disney.
 
Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Blizzard games are the cream of the crop. So are id games. Unreal tends to be considered at least a "top ten" game with every successive release too.

I would go back and look at your list, but if you are saying that we don't have the cream of the crop based on that list I would have to refer you to the wall full of "Game of the Year" awards which have been given to each one of the last...like, five Blizzard games, and id games, and the Unreal games....don't make me go back to Bungie again, but this applied to them too.... If your list is the cream of the crop, these games are the creme de la creme.

I guess it really depends on whether or not you need a large game catalogue on your computer, or whether you are satisfied playing the majority of the very best computer games on your computer and playing the very best of console games on your console...I hold the same standard either way, really. But I'm just a snob that way...same with music......

Oh, and blah blah blah....emulator....
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yes we did get warcraft 3, and it plays extremly well on the mac and pc. but that it just one game. are we getting battlefield, the number 1 game of the year,no. are we getting planetside or star wars galaxies, splinter cell, raven shield, americas army, no. macs do usually get some good games, but not all the good games. macs are just not good if you want to be a gamer. we just now got forcefeedback, we just now go ip over firewire for lan games, we dont have teamspeak, we dont have eax hd technology, we dont have games with 5.1 surround sound support, but the final thing is we just dont have a lot of good games that are coming out. there are so many great games for the pc that win top awards that we dont good, warcraft 3 is an exception, but thats it. im trying so hard not to get in an argument, its just macs are not gamin computers, we simply do not have enough games, and we lack some things that key people need when playing games, like teamspeak. but if you feel macs are gaming machines then its all good for you, i just feel anyone serious about gaming is gonna have a hard time getting it done on a mac.

iJon
 
Right. I'm not saying Macs are gaming machines. I'm saying they do get some great games. As far as Blizzard goes, we have their entire catalogue, and their entire catalogue consists of games of the year. So if you want every game that makes the cover of PC Gaming monthly --you're not gonna get it. But you will get some great ones, and Blizzard isn't the only one who makes them.

Look, to make myself completely clear here, I'm not saying that the Mac game catalogue is even comparable to the PC game catalogue. If you are a heavy gamer, it's just not going to be acceptable to you. Personally I like to play a few high-hour requirement games, and it really doesn't matter to me if I have splinter cell on my iMac, I can get it on my PS2, and that's a hell of a lot cheaper than a PC. I can also get SOCOM on my PS2, and that has "teamspeak". The Mac gaming community did get served a serious blow by the loss of Bungie, because to that point we had three companies making the best games in the world releasing all their products on the Mac.

All I'm saying is you're not completely lost at sea with a Mac as far as games go, but once again that depends on your standards and what you're after, and just how many of the top games you need.

I don't think we really disagree on this, we just come from different gaming perspectives.

In any event, I will be highly pleased if I will be able to run PC games on my Mac with good hardware support. Then I can go back and play Terrors of the Deep :p
 
Let's not forget Pangea. They have provided great games for the Mac for a long time - they started on the Apple ][!. Right now they have seven 3D games and are working on another.
 
Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Right. I'm not saying Macs are gaming machines. I'm saying they do get some great games. As far as Blizzard goes, we have their entire catalogue, and their entire catalogue consists of games of the year. So if you want every game that makes the cover of PC Gaming monthly --you're not gonna get it. But you will get some great ones, and Blizzard isn't the only one who makes them.

Look, to make myself completely clear here, I'm not saying that the Mac game catalogue is even comparable to the PC game catalogue. If you are a heavy gamer, it's just not going to be acceptable to you. Personally I like to play a few high-hour requirement games, and it really doesn't matter to me if I have splinter cell on my iMac, I can get it on my PS2, and that's a hell of a lot cheaper than a PC. I can also get SOCOM on my PS2, and that has "teamspeak". The Mac gaming community did get served a serious blow by the loss of Bungie, because to that point we had three companies making the best games in the world releasing all their products on the Mac.

All I'm saying is you're not completely lost at sea with a Mac as far as games go, but once again that depends on your standards and what you're after, and just how many of the top games you need.

I don't think we really disagree on this, we just come from different gaming perspectives.

In any event, I will be highly pleased if I will be able to run PC games on my Mac with good hardware support. Then I can go back and play Terrors of the Deep :p
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sounds good, now we are in the same boat.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iindigo
Let's not forget Pangea. They have provided great games for the Mac for a long time - they started on the Apple ][!. Right now they have seven 3D games and are working on another.
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i guess, they are kindof fun, if you like to play bugdom and power pete. i consider those my cheezy games i play along with my freeverse games on my powermac. and then i have my pc for my non cheezy games. their new game looks pretty fun though, ill have to check it out.

iJon
 
Some of the best games on the mac...

Actually, I think one of the great strengths of Mac gaming is the shareware. I was playing Realmz back when the author was at Wisconsin state and it has been an excellent RPG engine (although I havn't played it in a few years, and the best scenario I played was "Destroy the Necronomicon").

While Fantasoft is in the picture (they have other cool games), let's not forget Ambrosia software -- sure, they mostly make small arcade games, but Escape Velocity is a lot of fun. I have found a ton of quality shareware games for the Mac. I don't know how it is on the PC side (although I know my top two have been released for PC), but there are some fine games out there.

Support shareware! I have...a couple of times!

Anyway, who am I to talk, I'm still playing Diablo II...just because there are 60,000 people playing Diablo II on battle.net at any given time...we have like 8 billion people in the world, that equals approximately 7,999,940,000 people in the world who aren't playing Diablo II...on Battle.net.

I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff...that's why I'm afraid to play a MMORPG -- I ignored the Sims for years, only to get totally sucked in for a month...and I wasn't even online....*sigh*...
 
good point, if it can emulate 3D even a 400mhz emulation can run CS and all the other HL mods like natural selection now that would be cool.
 
Originally posted by BaghdadBob
By the way, since you are such an expert in defective products you are probably aware of the open sockets problem in Windows. Did you know that MS released XP knowing FULL WELL that they had a VERY SERIOUS securtiy issue in their OS? They actually had a reasonably high profile programmer who wrote some security software to alleviate this, writing them repeatedly pleading with them not to release XP with this "feature" intact, as they did with previous versions. But they did it anyway...and released a patch after a while. And, OBTW, an Army server running Windows got hacked into during the war. Just a footnote, I'm not implying it was due to the same "feature".
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Microsoft released Windows XP to manufacturing (RTM) then suddenly found a bug with some USB plug-n-play thing, but made it patched before it was even released to the general public. Not everything is perfect, not even Mac OS X.

Or are you talking about that "security bug" where you could boot in Windows 2000 CD to a XP partition? That's intended. It's called administration. It helps especially if you've got encrypted files with NTFS' Encrypted File System features and forgot the password. That happens to many people. The problem here is that only physical security is at risk. Hell, I can make a Linux boot floppy and boot any Linux computer as root without the password. Same thing. Hell, I can even boot off Mac OS X's install CD and CHANGE THE FRIGGIN ROOT PASSWORD without knowing the old one. [edit #2] You also can boot in single user mode in Mac OS X without the root password.

[edit: by the way, you're very vague on what bug this was, please clarify]

The Army server that got hacked was because of the WebDAV bug, it got fixed. Again, not all software are perfect. Many UNIX servers have been hacked before. I really think it's just, many many times, the administrator's fault. A friend's Windows 2000 Server has been running hack-proof for years and many people have tried to pry it open to no avail, even through SQL Slammer (already patched), IIS Code Red, Nimda, etc.
 
Actually, the open sockets bug had existed in at least one previous OS, and to the best of my knowledge, XP did ship with it intact, and then needed to be patched.

I guess that's what happens when you try and emulate the beauty of Macs plug-n-play technology...which is PERFECT! :p

No, no software is perfect, but the, uh, "discussion" was about releasing a known fault, which MS did.

I actually don't want to go into this too much further because I'm going to have to go and source my points, I just wanted to shut up some *****le who was calling me "infantile" for supporting the PS2 and not Microsoft, because apparently Sony is worse than MS, to which I disagree.

Who knows, maybe he's still lurking in the shadows, waiting for me to open my mouth so he can call me a lactophage and insult my mommy.

But I aint all about that, yo. Some fools just be hatin'.
 
XP is ugly, too

http://grc.com/xpdite/xpdite.htm

This isn't the original page I first read about it on, but you can probably find some good info here.

Before you start thinking they're trying to sell you something, remember that the software there is freeware.

My fiancee got some software, I don't remember if it was this, but after she turned on all the security features she was certified "Stealth" by a testing page. She was happy :D

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Having actually taken two additional minutes to peruse the page I found the right thing.

http://grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm

Universal Plug'n'Play! Wonderful technology. Have you seen South Park, B,L,&U? God, I love that scene with Bill Gates. And every scene with Saddam Hussein (especially his dance routine). And the UN scene, that's classic... Anyway.

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Originally posted by MacCoaster
Or are you talking about that "security bug" where you could boot in Windows 2000 CD to a XP partition? That's intended. It's called administration. It helps especially if you've got encrypted files with NTFS' Encrypted File System features and forgot the password. That happens to many people. The problem here is that only physical security is at risk. Hell, I can make a Linux boot floppy and boot any Linux computer as root without the password. Same thing. Hell, I can even boot off Mac OS X's install CD and CHANGE THE FRIGGIN ROOT PASSWORD without knowing the old one. [edit #2] You also can boot in single user mode in Mac OS X without the root password.
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If you let some un-authorized person get access to the console of your server, you deserve to be hacked! Lock it up somewhere for pete's sake!
 
kneeslasher said:
So.... any update on real pc?
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Wow, what a question! Real PC turned out to be the biggest fake of last year. They just wanted to sell their old version and so told everybody what the new version would be like, but they lied all the way...
 
Sort of funny, I though the old CEO was fired for making an announcemnet of the return of this product for the Mac and how the new CEO of FWB was launching an investigation to see if there was actually a product behind the announcement.
My name is Marko Kostyrko

I have removed Mr Mark Strathdee as CEO of FWB software and replaced him with myself.

The process of handing over is still under way and I have not as yet had a chance to verify the authenticity of the claims made by the previous management. Because of this I have removed the claim from the website whilst I carry out this investigation.

As soon as the story is clear I will make the appropriate press releases to notify the public of the complete story. It is expected that this will be done during the up coming week.

Yours Sincerely
Marko Kostyrko
CEO - FWB Software Inc
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This looks like a copy of an interview that was over 1 year old. This product ended up being vaporware. Rumors back then suggested that there wasn't any code written yet.
 
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