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This test isn't as accurate as it could be since so much is dependent on Photoshop preference settings. I'll explain a little later, but first, the test results.

PowerMac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz, 3GB RAM, Mac OSX 10.4.7, 70GB free HD space:

3m 46s 17ms - First test (under my normal PS settings - 30 History States, 30% Memory Usage* - 884 MB)
2m 59s 50ms - Second test (30 History States, 90% Memory Usage - 2652 MB)
1m 28s 85ms - Third test (1 History State, 90% Memory Usage - 2652 MB)

As you can see, depending on how you've configured your PS settings, the results are wildly different. In fact, this test doesn't seem to test anything of discernible value, because it's sooo disk intensive the results skew strictly processor/RAM intensive tests between different systems. The fact that the end file (532 MB) is 15,512 x 12,008 pixels is utterly ridiculous. How many people build 300dpi poster-sized advertisements? This test is great if you're in that niche industry, but it does little to truly test a wide range of systems. An end image of 11x7 inches at 300 dpi should be more than sufficient.

The final disk cache size is slightly under 6GB. Way too disk intense for most systems that have 2GB or under of RAM, like is the case with many older PowerMac systems and PowerBooks.

So I ran the test again, but this time, disabled the 300% image scaling.

0m 17s 63ms - Fourth test (1 History State, 90% Memory Usage - 2652 MB)

Conclusion: You can come to your own conclusions regarding my test. For the person running the Mac Pro test, I would hold judgement until he upgrades the RAM to a production-ready amount (say 4GB) and he checks his PS preferences.

* I run many different apps at the same time as PS, mainly After Effects and FCP, so keeping the memory usage for PS low helps keep my system from slowing down. A setting of 90% is not practical, unless you're strictly running PS and no other program, like Distiller, Quark or InDesign or Acrobat, which in a production environment, could be unproductive
 
Powermac Dualcore 2.0GHz, 2.5GB Ram, 10.4.7, Photoshop CS 1. The scratch disc is set to my audio drive, which is a Maxtor 7200rpm 250gb SATA drive with 16mb cache (system drive is exactly the same, but only has 8mb cache).

With default history states (20 i think), it took 1 min 52, wit 90% memory usage

With history set to 1, it took 1min 8 seconds (??!!)

Cheers
 
p0intblank said:
Wow... mine came in at 8 minutes and 27 seconds! Can we get an official list of everyone's results together? If not, all I want is some scores for the Mac mini Core Duo @ 1.66 GHz. Please tell me it's faster than my PowerBook... if so, then I'll be very happy with the purchase next week. :D

So you have a PowerBook G4 1.5GHz with 1.5GB of RAM and got 8:27? I have a Powerbook G4 800Mhz with only 1GB of RAM and got 8:00 flat.

The only thing I can think of is that my upgraded hard drive (7200 rpm) really pays off in this test?

Nice to know my 5 year old machine can still hang with those who have processors twice as fast as well as the brand new MacBook Pros (granted they are running under Rosetta).

This test confirms my plan to keep this thing until Adobe comes out with a universal binary CS.

Oh, and my wife's iMac G5, 1.8GHz, 1.25MB RAM scored a 4:25. About the same time as the new MacPro (again, I know it has to run under Rosetta). Not too shabby for a "consumer" machine.

BTW... History states were set to default for CS2.
 
3:28

20" iMac
2GHz Intel Core Duo
2GB DDR2 SDRAM 667Mhz
ATi Radeon X1600 256MB VRAM


How do you set up your scratch disk, and what exactly is it/does it do?
 
For everybody running the test with only 1 history state and 90% devoted to PS, doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of the test? Who really works like that anyway? Part of comparing systems is to see how well they write to their drives, thus this test is designed to work with a more standard amount of history tests.
 
spicyapple said:
This test isn't as accurate as it could be since so much is dependent on Photoshop preference settings. I'll explain a little later, but first, the test results.

PowerMac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz, 3GB RAM, Mac OSX 10.4.7, 70GB free HD space:

3m 46s 17ms - First test (under my normal PS settings - 30 History States, 30% Memory Usage* - 884 MB)
2m 59s 50ms - Second test (30 History States, 90% Memory Usage - 2652 MB)
1m 28s 85ms - Third test (1 History State, 90% Memory Usage - 2652 MB)

As you can see, depending on how you've configured your PS settings, the results are wildly different. In fact, this test doesn't seem to test anything of discernible value, because it's sooo disk intensive the results skew strictly processor/RAM intensive tests between different systems. The fact that the end file (532 MB) is 15,512 x 12,008 pixels is utterly ridiculous. How many people build 300dpi poster-sized advertisements? This test is great if you're in that niche industry, but it does little to truly test a wide range of systems. An end image of 11x7 inches at 300 dpi should be more than sufficient.

The final disk cache size is slightly under 6GB. Way too disk intense for most systems that have 2GB or under of RAM, like is the case with many older PowerMac systems and PowerBooks.

So I ran the test again, but this time, disabled the 300% image scaling.

0m 17s 63ms - Fourth test (1 History State, 90% Memory Usage - 2652 MB)

Conclusion: You can come to your own conclusions regarding my test. For the person running the Mac Pro test, I would hold judgement until he upgrades the RAM to a production-ready amount (say 4GB) and he checks his PS preferences.

* I run many different apps at the same time as PS, mainly After Effects and FCP, so keeping the memory usage for PS low helps keep my system from slowing down. A setting of 90% is not practical, unless you're strictly running PS and no other program, like Distiller, Quark or InDesign or Acrobat, which in a production environment, could be unproductive

Very nice anlysis, I redid the test

90% memory used, 1 history state: 3:40


At noted above, this file is HUGE, though I am sure that there are many out there that work with these file sizes on a daily basis, and those that do are eagerly waiting a UB version of photoshop. For those that are curiuos, 3:40 seems to be the best I can get out of my setup, I'm sure more RAM and a scrath disk would help, but for me, PS will run great for my needs, I never work in files sizes over 1920X1080, since that is the max HD size, and I mostly work in 1280x720.

I seem to think that for my uses, the mac pro will more than suffice until a UB version of PS comes out, and I'm sure then all the photoshop gurus will splooge running it on a top of the line Mac Pro.
 
Spagolli94 said:
So you have a PowerBook G4 1.5GHz with 1.5GB of RAM and got 8:27? I have a Powerbook G4 800Mhz with only 1GB of RAM and got 8:00 flat.

Hmmm... I got 5:05 on my PB G4 1.5GHz with 1.5GB RAM, default memory handling (1029MB allocated to PS).

After disabling automatic snapshot and setting history states to 1, I got 3:03 on the same Powerbook!
 
speed test

i got 2:04

running a G5 dual 2.7 with 2.5 gigs of ram. can't wait to see what the Mac Pro's are doing and if i should put this thing up on craigslist. lol
 
Laslo Panaflex said:
Very nice anlysis, I redid the test

90% memory used, 1 history state: 3:40


At noted above, this file is HUGE, though I am sure that there are many out there that work with these file sizes on a daily basis, and those that do are eagerly waiting a UB version of photoshop. For those that are curiuos, 3:40 seems to be the best I can get out of my setup, I'm sure more RAM and a scrath disk would help, but for me, PS will run great for my needs, I never work in files sizes over 1920X1080, since that is the max HD size, and I mostly work in 1280x720.

I seem to think that for my uses, the mac pro will more than suffice until a UB version of PS comes out, and I'm sure then all the photoshop gurus will splooge running it on a top of the line Mac Pro.

Did you try deleting the Image size step? I did that and my results were very different. It essentially eliminates the memory and disk as a variable.

My results and full settings.
CPU: dual 867 G4
RAM: 1.75 GB
System disk: 250GB Maxtor 7,200rpm, 16MB cache
Data Disk: same
Scratch disk: Same (3 seperate volumes, data and system share ata100 channel)

Action WITH 300% image size increase
PS Settings:
RAM for PS 1.5GB

75 History States: 6:32
1 History State: 5:05

Action WITHOUT 300% image size increase
RAM for PS1.5GB
75 History States: 45 Seconds
1 History State: 39 Seconds

RAM for PS 1GB
1 History State: 39 seconds

RAM for PS 500MB: 39 Seconds

RAM for PS 32MB: 65 Seconds

So you can see that if you delete the image size step the RAM becomes a non issue at normal levels. It also is much more processor intesive. I suggest people do the test like this to standardaize results. Heck, I'll even make a chart of them.

Report:
Processor Speed
System Disk specs
Scratch Disk specs (if present)
Total RAM

Photoshop Settings: "Power User"
50 History States
2GB RAM (if not possible, use maximum and report)
Keep Image Size step

Photoshop Settings: "Standard User"
1 History State
2GB RAM (if not possible, use maximum and report)
DELETE image size step


This should allow us to see how the processors compare and compare that to disk/memory usage. Any takers?
 
digitalassassin said:
i got 2:04

running a G5 dual 2.7 with 2.5 gigs of ram. can't wait to see what the Mac Pro's are doing and if i should put this thing up on craigslist. lol

Or just sell it to me :)
 
Okay, I deleted the image size step and I got: 50 seconds.

Mac Pro
2x 2.6ghz
1gb RAM
90% allocated to PS
1 history state.

I hope this helps.
 
Quad Results

1:26 Seconds

PowerMac G5 Quad. 20 History States -- 95% Ram for total of 3,072 MB used by photoshop.
Main Drive -- Maxtor Stock 250Gig
Secondary for Scratch -- Maxtor 300 gig Maxline III

******* Drives very full -- about 70% used which may account for slowdown.

Activity Monitor Launched. Most actions used reasonable amount of Quad Processors.

Photoshop CS2

File on Scratch Drive

Love my Quad G5.
DJO
 
Laslo Panaflex said:
Okay, I deleted the image size step and I got: 50 seconds.

Mac Pro
2x 2.6ghz
1gb RAM
90% allocated to PS
1 history state.

I hope this helps.

wow...even using my system disk as the scratch and 800mb of RAM for PS my dual 867 is faster. Very odd...

Out of curiosity. Try the standby PS test. Radial blur, 100, Best quality on the eagle image. Thats pure processors.

For me it was over 4 minutes.

Also, do you watch the activity monitor? If so what % of CPU are you seeing? I wonder if these are only single processor aware. I just can't believe my 5 year old G4 is faster....
 
dante@sisna.com said:
1:26 Seconds

PowerMac G5 Quad. 4 History States -- 95% Ram for total of 3,072 MB used by photoshop.
Main Drive -- Maxtor Stock 250Gig
Secondary for Scratch -- Maxtor 300 gig Maxline III

******* Drives very full -- about 70% used which may account for slowdown.

Activity Monitor Launched. Most actions used reasonable amount of Quad Processors.

Photoshop CS2

File on Scratch Drive

Love my Quad G5.
DJO

What happens when you delete the image size step?

BTW...you use Lightroom? I'm trying to get some LR benchmark data together.
 
spicyapple said:
How many people build 300dpi poster-sized advertisements? This test is great if you're in that niche industry, but it does little to truly test a wide range of systems.


I am book production I routinely receive art scans from Artists who scan their 24x36 or 40x60 canvas at 300 DPI at full size on Lightbox Scanners. So I deal in this image size all the time.

Quad Core G5 Cranks right through it.

DJO
 
Quad Deleted Image Size Results

CTYankee said:
What happens when you delete the image size step?

BTW...you use Lightroom? I'm trying to get some LR benchmark data together.


IF I delete the Image Size Step my time is 10.8 seconds.

Photoshop CS2 with 3072 MB Ram (at 90%) with Cache at 4 levels.

G5 Quad Core 4.5 Gig RAM total -- main Drive stock Maxtor 250 Gig -- secondary Drive Maxtor Maxline III 16mb buffer 300 gig. Drives 70% full.

Most actions -- using activity monitor -- use all 4 processors.

I do not use lightroom -- sorry.

DJO
 
speeed

k... ran it 2 more times, 3 all together

1st
2:04
20 history states, 65% memory allocation

2nd
1:44
1 history state, 90% allocation

3rd
17secs
1 history state, 90% allocation, no image resize to 300%


G5 dual 2.7, 2.5GB ram, primary scratch disk on secondary drive
 
dante@sisna.com said:
IF I delete the Image Size Step my time is 10.8 seconds.

Photoshop CS2 with 3072 MB Ram (at 90%) with Cache at 4 levels.

G5 Quad Core 4.5 Gig RAM total -- main Drive stock Maxtor 250 Gig -- secondary Drive Maxtor Maxline III 16mb buffer 300 gig. Drives 70% full.

Most actions -- using activity monitor -- use all 4 processors.

I do not use lightroom -- sorry.

DJO

10.8 vs 50...if these numbers hold true no way do I get a MacPro. THe price on the Quads is falling already (now I wish I had sprung on that quad I saw for $2100 with 4GB of RAM). Any hit I take in price is worth the time I'll save using the G5 vs my current G4 or a MP.
 
If you start deleting that step, then it isn't testing system speed... which in my eyes is pointless.

It will show the positives of having a lot of ram and scratch disks... that is the point of it.
 
CTYankee said:
10.8 vs 50...if these numbers hold true no way do I get a MacPro. THe price on the Quads is falling already (now I wish I had sprung on that quad I saw for $2100 with 4GB of RAM). Any hit I take in price is worth the time I'll save using the G5 vs my current G4 or a MP.

Aye, if I used PS exclusively, there is no way I would have updated, but seeing as how I use Apple FCP studio, that doesn't effect me since it's UB. I hope the results I have posted have helped, but alas I am no PS expert, just a novice that uses it on occasion.
 
To the Mac Pro Guy (drooooool Mac Pro ) Your system will be massively fast when the next 4 things happen (that is why this tst was made... firstly to show how fast your system copes with a heavy work load and secondly to let you adjust your system to best handle it)

1) PS goes UB
2) You get another few gigs in there
3) History state to 1
4) Separate scratch disk

Your system is a beaut
 
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