iPhone Reasons why some hate Apple

[McCool71]

Over all, I get the feeling that Apple assumes their users are idiots, and that irritates me.

This.

Combined with the elitist attitude both from the company and some of the users.

Used to be way worse though; 15 years ago you could safely assume that 2 out of 3 Mac users were total d-bags, which is why I have never owned a Mac in my life - I do not want to be associated with people like that.

And they are still around - just last week I was helping out at a conference and among other things preparing the running order of the presentations on a Windows PC hooked up to the projector. The first thing one of the speakers said to me - even before 'hello' - as he handed over his USB stick was: 'You still use this c**p? I only use Macs. They are so much better". And we are not talking about a rabid fanboy here, but a professor at the age of 45-50.

A grown man. Behaving like a child. Amazing.

 

[spinedoc77]

Over all, I get the feeling that Apple assumes their users are idiots, and that irritates me.

This is what annoys me, but it's more than that. It's telling their users they are idiots so they need the most simple, basic OS and then turning around and telling them they ALSO need to buy one of their "regular" computers like a desktop or laptop. Then we have all these users extolling how "simple" the system is that a 2 year old child can use it. I'm sorry the last time I checked the ability for a 2 year old to use a piece of technology was NOT a plus. Just that figure of what, I think it was 96% of ipad owners also own a laptop is quite telling. I haven't dumbed down my family, well except my 2 year old who does have the only ipad handed down to her because it works very well as an educational toy for a 2 year old.

So it's not that Apple assumes their users are idiots IMO, it's that Apple actively seeks to separate their business into 2 models and their business model depends on you buying both. You need to buy an ipad because you are too stupid to use anything more complex, but at the same time you still need to buy a desktop/laptop for those more hardcore functions. What's interesting to me is that Apple consumers buy it hook, line and sinker.

 

[Max(IT)]

Usually people come to apple because android software is too confusing.

I honestly think that android is not aesthetically pleasing to look at and can be confusing at times.

At least samsung phones (touchwiz) have too much going on. To many toggles and look at the task bar my friend sent me. She said she has no idea what half of those notifications are.
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Only half? She's smart... That notification bar is a demonstration of an operative system without real control over its UI

 

[Oohara]

Usually people come to apple because android software is too confusing.

I honestly think that android is not aesthetically pleasing to look at and can be confusing at times.

At least samsung phones (touchwiz) have too much going on. To many toggles and look at the task bar my friend sent me. She said she has no idea what half of those notifications are.
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She only has to pull down the notifications shade to find out lol. And then press the "clear" button and they'll all go away. If it happens too often, all you do is set those apps to not show notifications at all.

A bit of more tinkering in exchange for more versatility, that's what Android is. If anyone feels that to be rocket science, Apple will be happy to take your cash instead.

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Only half? She's smart... That notification bar is a demonstration of an operative system without real control over its UI

Correct - because that is an OS where the user has control over the UI.

 

[Faux Carnival]

Because I can't make Chrome my default browser on iOS.

 

[Tsuchiya]

Apple are always quick to announce their latest and greatest as the second coming, and there are too many loyalists who are blinded by their devotion and get sucked into the hype. Every. Damn. Time.

From the outside it is an irritating combination.

 

[Truefan31]

I think people identify with apple and Jobs. He was integral in revolutionizing the PC industry in the beginning. Got kicked out of his own company, came back and really revolutionized music with the iPod. Then the iPhone was again a revolution in changing how smartphones should look and feel. The iPad again set the precedent for tablets.

And again apple has character. And they've always been doing computer hardware and software so people respect their products. Samsung is a mixture of different industries. Google is an ad based search engine. They've all followed apples blueprint in mobile business.

I'm not saying they don't copy each other; they do. But apple has a way of implementing most features seamlessly like Touch ID. It's an awesome feature that others have done but not nearly as effectively.

It's not that apple assumes people are idiots. They know that most people don't root (or even jb), don't care about customized roms etc. they want smooth, reliable tools for information and communication. When u have a company design the device in entirety in apples case it's a good looking, efficient tool. Just like the iPad still outsells others. It's a consumption device that's portable. Having a laptop and iPad doesn't mean anything other than u have 2 devices that specialize in different things. Other companies try to be a jack of all trades, master of none.

 

[gochi]

i agree the way its marketed its like you're selling the laptop to a bunch of kids


i must admit since switching over ive become a bit feminizied i feel like im happier though its odd

 

[Wrathwitch]

If my understanding of my fiancee's view is correct he hates Apple the company because he truly believes that the company is only interested in profit to the expense of everything else. He things Steve Jobs was the biggest **** going (although I thought he was a hell of an interesting person) The way that Jobs treated people and is yet praised like he could do no wrong really rubs him the wrong way. I can say that we both like the products but also see some shortcomings in how they develop their software etc.

One very good example regarding the profit statement is that 1st gen iPad. They should never have allowed the option to update to iOS6 or 7. There should be a warning about what kind of issues can happen. It bricked MANY people's iPads and forced them to have to buy another just to get one that worked properly. On top of that they do not allow you to go back to a former iOS unless you are some sort of tech wiz who knows what to do to save the former OS etc. 512 mb ram was not enough to handle the new OS and apps and it ruined my fiancee's ipad. Since he had spent a couple of hundred of dollars in apps, the only choice was to get a new one. Small business model decisions like that.

I have to keep on top of mom to not update her iP4 now because I know that it will lose functionality with the new more demanding OS etc, this also for her iPad. The OS updates should not be offered without a CLEAR warning of what can happen and a clear instruction on how to back up and go back to the former OS if needed.

I think some of these examples offer a small reason why some people don't like apple.

 

[spinedoc77]

i agree the way its marketed its like you're selling the laptop to a bunch of kids


i must admit since switching over ive become a bit feminizied i feel like im happier though its odd

It's the estrogen.

No but seriously, I think those of us who have escaped Apple's marketing kind of have a 6th sense about it. Don't get me wrong ALL for profit companies market and they all exaggerate their benefits. Apple's marketing is genius in how it just pulls you in, and the farther they fall behind technologically the more genius their marketing becomes as their sales numbers climb.

 

[joe1946]

Because they did not put 4K video more on the iPhone 6 like on other flagship phones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU

 

[gochi]

It's the estrogen.

No but seriously, I think those of us who have escaped Apple's marketing kind of have a 6th sense about it. Don't get me wrong ALL for profit companies market and they all exaggerate their benefits. Apple's marketing is genius in how it just pulls you in, and the farther they fall behind technologically the more genius their marketing becomes as their sales numbers climb.

also that guy with the accent makes it sound like its something magical

lol

you dont see other companies CEOs presenting their latest product

 

[jamesrick80]

My hate apple ios and current device reasons although I use a iPad Air to study my school notes:

1. One gb ram, I can't multitask with this
2. Limited memory options and no drag and drop capability
3. Stupid file managers
4. iTunes...don't ask
5. Screens...ips only good with white
6. Lower specs but act like its state of the art
7. Worst widgets in notification pull down menu ever seen
8. Clearish milky white opaque looks sucks on iOS, ugly interface
9. Can't do anything that I couldn't do on my last iOS device
10. fanboys who will eat whatever Apple gives them

 

[mrex]

but you have to realize that most of peoples are just happy when they can call, send messages and take selfies...selfies....selfies... and of course belfies...delfies... velfies and telfies...

apple is cleaver, and they put only 1gb ram. now they can keep all happy (no apps using over 1gb ram) and on the next year they can sell same devices with more ram and say, now it is time for more ram!

 

[pedromcm.pm]

Because they did not put 4K video more on the iPhone 6 like on other flagship phones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU

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But they gave it the best camera.

Again, I seriously believe that the reason most people hate Apple is because of ignorance:

They only see 2 core Vs 8 core;
8 MP Vs 16 MP;
QuadHD vs 720P.

They don't know nay better. Ignorance.

 

[Manny72]

What I find funny is how Android People try to compare the Phone's Cameras. First of all it's a Phone and the Pictures will never be as good as using a real Camera. Second: People really don't understand how Mega Pixels work, go ask a Photographer.
Third: Android OS is just a cheap ripoff of Windows.
I switched to I-Phones from Windows Phones because of the ease of connectivity. I'm Into Car Audio so I've owned a few different Car Stereos that I plug my I-Phone to and it works just like I-Tunes. When you connect to your Car stereo using Bluetooth you lose sound quality. As far as "freedom" there's Programs out there that will convert any file to use on your I-Phone or I-Pad, trust me I've used them.

 

[Markyboy81]

What I find funny is how Android People try to compare the Phone's Cameras. First of all it's a Phone and the Pictures will never be as good as using a real Camera. Second: People really don't understand how Mega Pixels work, go ask a Photographer.
Third: Android OS is just a cheap ripoff of Windows.
I switched to I-Phones from Windows Phones because of the ease of connectivity. I'm Into Car Audio so I've owned a few different Car Stereos that I plug my I-Phone to and it works just like I-Tunes. When you connect to your Car stereo using Bluetooth you lose sound quality. As far as "freedom" there's Programs out there that will convert any file to use on your I-Phone or I-Pad, trust me I've used them.

A lot of android phones use the apt - x bluetooth codec so the difference in sound quality to wired is virtually indistinguishable.

 

[mrex]

funny, i have had bt problems only with my iDevices. while my android and win stuff connect great, i cannot even use a simple bt sharing >crossplatform< with my iDevice.

What I find funny is how Android People try to compare the Phone's Cameras.

iPeople dont compare cameras? or do they compare on better way, maybe on iWay?

 

[thering1975]

I personally do not hate Apple Perse but i do hate the aurora that surrounds them and their users. Now this is not a hate on members of this forums in fact a few of the points below relate to my best mate.

1) Assumption you have to be rich to own an iphone and anyone else who chooses otherwise is some sort of lesser class citizen.

This one grates me as i could go out tommorrow and buy 20 of their phones but i choose not to as it does not suit me.

2) The belief that whatever steve said or done was gospel.

Looking at the various documentaries i find this guy fascinating and think he did a lot for the tech community and was one of the more exciting gurus of tech, however this leads to why there is a a huge hatred for Android, as because he hated it therefore all should follow and not question why.

3) Style over Substance

As a consumer i believe in getting the best bang for my buck, if i buy a car i want as many features for as little as price as possible. Yet with Ipad and Iphones peoples perception of price and value goes out the window. The belief that because its expensive its high end, annoys me. No its expensive and midrange but you cannot say that as it offends those who relate to point 1 above

4) Misinformation from forums / blogs

All you here are people rabidly trying to defend decisions a huge corporation had made as if they are doing it for the people. Example currently is the 1GB Ram in iphone 6+. Anyone who knows developing knows that more pixels and or processing requires more memory, yet you here apologists go on about "apple Knows Best". No its a profit driven scenario so that you must upgrade in two cycles time as IOS 9 wont work on less than 2gb ram,You are part of a perpetual cycle of upgrades you just cannot admit it.

On another note - Android is tagged with archaic comments from users who have not even used it and follow the crowd. When you refer to android you are referring to stock or similar. Yes oem specific roms may have issues but Android is clean and fast.

Again you see comments about android force closing as if it only affects that os. No the difference is Android tells you there is an issue, IOS just bums out to the homescreen, i know it used to happen on my ipad all the time.

5) Features / Spec whores

This ones fun, we all want the best as per point 3, but its amazing to see devout apple users slam android specs when they are above what apple provides, (i.e cores / ram) etc yet rave about geekbench scores in every thread proving the a8 is better than SD801? This contradiction is what i hate most

6) Contradictions

This forum is great for a laugh at times especially if it involves any Samsung news, yet when people try to comment in a positive way for the opposition they will be slammed down with comments such as Samdung or Shamsung etc. Yet one thing i noticed throughout the last month, is that in every thread it was an apple user forum member baiting and raising the demon samsung first in every thread.

I dont have time for fanboys of any description and i enjoy the benefits from all tech providers, but its a shame that you cannot have a discussion on this site without having to be on one team or the other.

TLDR

I guess what gets me is that Apple enforces an image that every product that they make is the best and that they know whats best for you like a nanny state, and god help you if you mix and match.

Where as i am someone who enjoys tech and buys a product through informed choice but i must not express that point due to the elitism attached to a pure apple ecosystem.

I do not hate apple, but i do not care much for the elitist attitude that surrounds them

 

[Abazigal]

5) Features / Spec whores

This ones fun, we all want the best as per point 3, but its amazing to see devout apple users slam android specs when they are above what apple provides, (i.e cores / ram) etc yet rave about geekbench scores in every thread proving the a8 is better than SD801? This contradiction is what i hate most

To me, there's no contradiction.

From my experience, this really only happens because Android fanboys are the ones laughing at Apple users because their iOS devices are "just" sporting dual-core processors. They boast so much about their quad-core snapdragon or octa-core exynos processors when the reality is that having that many cores is actually detrimental to the overall performance of the device.

Apple users don't go out using this fact to attack Android users, only as a form of "self-defence" for when they are attacked. It's like in those shows where the bully boasts about how he is the strongest there is, not knowing that the small, unassuming boy is actually a black-belt karate expert.

 

[AustinIllini]

To me, there's no contradiction.

From my experience, this really only happens because Android fanboys are the ones laughing at Apple users because their iOS devices are "just" sporting dual-core processors. They boast so much about their quad-core snapdragon or octa-core exynos processors when the reality is that having that many cores is actually detrimental to the overall performance of the device.

Apple users don't go out using this fact to attack Android users, only as a form of "self-defence" for when they are attacked. It's like in those shows where the bully boasts about how he is the strongest there is, not knowing that the small, unassuming boy is actually a black-belt karate expert.

I agree with this. The "Spec Whore" concept only comes from the fact Android OEMs advertise their Snapdragons which scream in four cores (all the while cooking your battery). The truth is none of the specs matter at all. The fact that my iPhone only has two cores while my Nexus has 4 is irrelevant next to the fact that my iPhone is significantly faster, has longer battery life, and a better all around experience.

 

[Savor]

Apple is great at inventing their own marketing terms for the tech dummies.

What some called video calling, Apple goes proprietary and calls it FaceTime.

While RIM offered BlackBerry Messenger (or BBM) for years, Apple goes proprietary as usual and calls it iMessages.

While SwiftKey has been offered since 2010, Apple copies its predictive feature and calls it QuickType.

What general people call FULL HD 1080p display, Apple will call it Super Retina display.

That bigger screen iOS users have been waiting on for years (Android screen envy), Apple calls it iPhone 6/6 Plus.

Whatever copy & paste job Apple takes from the Android and their OEM's playbook, they simply go proprietary and call them among the "new" features for the latest iOS.

When Fandroids show charts saying Android is dominating at 85% globally, iFans will say because Android is for CHEAP or for POOR folks in developing countries. Yet, iPhones are just as discounted and even given away for free with contract. Most of the US market is controlled by carriers and people rely heavily on subsidized postpaid pricing like $199+ and not the usual $700+ no contract price that most prepaid countries deal with. Android users are cheapskates? Poor? Does the usual iPhone owners drive Bentleys, shop at Rodeo Drive, and eat at Spagu? No. Probably drive a sub-$40k car (no lease), shop at Wal-Mart, and eat at McDonald's. They only think they are rich since owning an iPhone makes them feel that way even with their 5-figure annual income! Hypocrites!

And whenever Apple gets copied, they scream lawsuit! Hypocrites too!

Someday Apple will make water-resistance iPhone and call it an iSplash coating. They make a phablet stylus and call it iPen.

Apple can get away with this by playing catch up because most of the general public doesn't know any better. And because iOS apps and proprietary software/services get more people suckered/locked/stuck/heavily invested into their closed ecosystem. You can still be on iPhone and can still use Google and Microsoft apps/services. You can't use Apple apps/services while on Android and Windows Phone. It no longer about the hardware but the software/services these days which makes iPhones the best $martphone to like 40% of the US and 12% of the entire Earth.

Why people hate Apple -

- Hypocrisy, ignorance, and arrogance from Apple & iFans alike

- Apple's inability to adapt to changes quickly. And when they do, years later.

- Apple's overcharging for something that still does half less (iPod nanos were always overpriced garbage to me. The iPads and all other tablets are getting there now that phablets exist.)

- Mostly style over substance

- Their marketing term "inventions" and proprietary/restrictive control of features that have been there for years.

- Constant hyping and protection by the media. The US media protects Apple since it has more cash than the government and generates media attention the same way the South Korean media protects Samsung from negative reviews. The Bloomberg review of iPhone 6 was hilariously AWFUL and biased. To whichever schmuck who got hand-picked and paid by Apple, great title. Fewer reasons to get an Android, huh? I probably liked David Pierce's objective review more even though I know he still feels iPhone 6 is still the best because he is one of those Apple fanboys from The Verge all about ecosystems!

- Blind loyalty. LOL at iFans who thinks iPhone 6 is beautiful, revolutionary, or magical when it mostly has midrange specs like 1 GB RAM, 4.7 inch screen, 750p, 326ppi, same single mono speaker on the bottom, 1.6 GHz dual core SoC, 1800+ mAh battery, etc. A $150 Asus Zenfone 5 or $180 Moto G (2014) can match most of those specs. Even surpass it in some areas.

 

[Truefan31]

Apple is great at inventing their own marketing terms for the tech dummies.



What some called video calling, Apple goes proprietary and calls it FaceTime.



While RIM offered BlackBerry Messenger (or BBM) for years, Apple goes proprietary as usual and calls it iMessages.



While SwiftKey has been offered since 2010, Apple copies its predictive feature and calls it QuickType.



What general people call FULL HD 1080p display, Apple will call it Super Retina display.



That bigger screen iOS users have been waiting on for years (Android screen envy), Apple calls it iPhone 6/6 Plus.



Whatever copy & paste job Apple takes from the Android and their OEM's playbook, they simply go proprietary and call them among the "new" features for the latest iOS.



When Fandroids show charts saying Android is dominating at 85% globally, iFans will say because Android is for CHEAP or for POOR folks in developing countries. Yet, iPhones are just as discounted and even given away for free with contract. Most of the US market is controlled by carriers and people rely heavily on subsidized postpaid pricing like $199+ and not the usual $700+ no contract price that most prepaid countries deal with. Android users are cheapskates? Poor? Does the usual iPhone owners drive Bentleys, shop at Rodeo Drive, and eat at Spagu? No. Probably drive a sub-$40k car (no lease), shop at Wal-Mart, and eat at McDonald's. They only think they are rich since owning an iPhone makes them feel that way even with their 5-figure annual income! Hypocrites!



And whenever Apple gets copied, they scream lawsuit! Hypocrites too!



Someday Apple will make water-resistance iPhone and call it an iSplash coating. They make a phablet stylus and call it iPen.



Apple can get away with this by playing catch up because most of the general public doesn't know any better. And because iOS apps and proprietary software/services get more people suckered/locked/stuck/heavily invested into their closed ecosystem. You can still be on iPhone and can still use Google and Microsoft apps/services. You can't use Apple apps/services while on Android and Windows Phone. It no longer about the hardware but the software/services these days which makes iPhones the best $martphone to like 40% of the US and 12% of the entire Earth.



Why people hate Apple -



- Hypocrisy, ignorance, and arrogance from Apple & iFans alike



- Apple's inability to adapt to changes quickly. And when they do, years later.



- Apple's overcharging for something that still does half less (iPod nanos were always overpriced garbage to me. The iPads and all other tablets are getting there now that phablets exist.)



- Mostly style over substance



- Their marketing term "inventions" and proprietary/restrictive control of features that have been there for years.



- Constant hyping and protection by the media. The US media protects Apple since it has more cash than the government and generates media attention the same way the South Korean media protects Samsung from negative reviews. The Bloomberg review of iPhone 6 was hilariously AWFUL and biased. To whichever schmuck who got hand-picked and paid by Apple, great title. Fewer reasons to get an Android, huh? I probably liked David Pierce's objective review more even though I know he still feels iPhone 6 is still the best because he is one of those Apple fanboys from The Verge all about ecosystems!



- Blind loyalty. LOL at iFans who thinks iPhone 6 is beautiful, revolutionary, or magical when it mostly has midrange specs like 1 GB RAM, 4.7 inch screen, 750p, 326ppi, same single mono speaker on the bottom, 1.6 GHz dual core SoC, 1800+ mAh battery, etc. A $150 Asus Zenfone 5 or $180 Moto G (2014) can match most of those specs. Even surpass it in some areas.

Geez man. U got some hostility. At the end of the day people that hate apple do so because they make the number 1 selling smartphone, every year.

 

[HiDEF]

Apple is great at inventing their own marketing terms for the tech dummies.



What some called video calling, Apple goes proprietary and calls it FaceTime.



While RIM offered BlackBerry Messenger (or BBM) for years, Apple goes proprietary as usual and calls it iMessages.



While SwiftKey has been offered since 2010, Apple copies its predictive feature and calls it QuickType.



What general people call FULL HD 1080p display, Apple will call it Super Retina display.



That bigger screen iOS users have been waiting on for years (Android screen envy), Apple calls it iPhone 6/6 Plus.



Whatever copy & paste job Apple takes from the Android and their OEM's playbook, they simply go proprietary and call them among the "new" features for the latest iOS.



When Fandroids show charts saying Android is dominating at 85% globally, iFans will say because Android is for CHEAP or for POOR folks in developing countries. Yet, iPhones are just as discounted and even given away for free with contract. Most of the US market is controlled by carriers and people rely heavily on subsidized postpaid pricing like $199+ and not the usual $700+ no contract price that most prepaid countries deal with. Android users are cheapskates? Poor? Does the usual iPhone owners drive Bentleys, shop at Rodeo Drive, and eat at Spagu? No. Probably drive a sub-$40k car (no lease), shop at Wal-Mart, and eat at McDonald's. They only think they are rich since owning an iPhone makes them feel that way even with their 5-figure annual income! Hypocrites!



And whenever Apple gets copied, they scream lawsuit! Hypocrites too!



Someday Apple will make water-resistance iPhone and call it an iSplash coating. They make a phablet stylus and call it iPen.



Apple can get away with this by playing catch up because most of the general public doesn't know any better. And because iOS apps and proprietary software/services get more people suckered/locked/stuck/heavily invested into their closed ecosystem. You can still be on iPhone and can still use Google and Microsoft apps/services. You can't use Apple apps/services while on Android and Windows Phone. It no longer about the hardware but the software/services these days which makes iPhones the best $martphone to like 40% of the US and 12% of the entire Earth.



Why people hate Apple -



- Hypocrisy, ignorance, and arrogance from Apple & iFans alike



- Apple's inability to adapt to changes quickly. And when they do, years later.



- Apple's overcharging for something that still does half less (iPod nanos were always overpriced garbage to me. The iPads and all other tablets are getting there now that phablets exist.)



- Mostly style over substance



- Their marketing term "inventions" and proprietary/restrictive control of features that have been there for years.



- Constant hyping and protection by the media. The US media protects Apple since it has more cash than the government and generates media attention the same way the South Korean media protects Samsung from negative reviews. The Bloomberg review of iPhone 6 was hilariously AWFUL and biased. To whichever schmuck who got hand-picked and paid by Apple, great title. Fewer reasons to get an Android, huh? I probably liked David Pierce's objective review more even though I know he still feels iPhone 6 is still the best because he is one of those Apple fanboys from The Verge all about ecosystems!



- Blind loyalty. LOL at iFans who thinks iPhone 6 is beautiful, revolutionary, or magical when it mostly has midrange specs like 1 GB RAM, 4.7 inch screen, 750p, 326ppi, same single mono speaker on the bottom, 1.6 GHz dual core SoC, 1800+ mAh battery, etc. A $150 Asus Zenfone 5 or $180 Moto G (2014) can match most of those specs. Even surpass it in some areas.

Good post.

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Geez man. U got some hostility. At the end of the day people that hate apple do so because they make the number 1 selling smartphone, every year.

I believe Android is more popular than Apple world wide.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[jamesrick80]

Geez man. U got some hostility. At the end of the day people that hate apple do so because they make the number 1 selling smartphone, every year.

Not true, I just wish they actually did more innovative things like Samsung and didn't always stay behind when it comes to tech.....