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Resident Evil 4 Now Available on iPhone, iPad, and Mac
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Yes native res for the internal 16”, I always start with that and then turn all possible graphics settings to max to see if I need Metal upscaling. Well this game being so demanding of course it does, with MetalFX Quality I am getting average 60-80.
My M3 Max is binned vs that posters’ full M3 Max it seems. I have to test to see if turning upscale off would drop how many frames, but his “90-120” suggests to me he has it on.
Which is a good FPS, just I'm not a fan of calling it native, when using upscaling. And even less of a fan of using upscaling for a non-native panel resolution (ie turning MFX on then having the final resolution be 1080p on a 1900p/2200p panel).
I don't think there's much traction to be gained even if Apple made their top end graphics available at a lower price to the masses. You want to play AAA games you typically do it on a large monitor or a big TV. My partner bought a high end gaming laptop and I find the comparatively small screen horrid to use in comparison to a TV and PS5 setup.
RTX 4080 or high end series are only meant for 4K and they do not perform well on QHD and FHD. Because the GPU usage on both resolution is quite lower than 4K which does not show how powerful M3 Max is. So QHD and FHD results does not represent that M3 Max is as good as RTX 4080.
It can show that Apples systems have enough CPU power to back up the GPU better at those lower resolutions. Which is not for nothing.
Doesn't prove that Apple GPU is powerful which is the main point. I dont care about FHD or QHD and Baldur's gate 3 results already proven that. High-end GPUs are mainly targeted for 4K so they dont perform well on both FHD and QHD.
It’s hilarious. So when defending 4080 it’s ok to only look at a certain test with a certain resolution (4K) and say the card is not meant for the most common resolutions on Steam and based only on that totally discard the great performance of M3 Max otherwise, but when talking down M3 Max it’s ok to completely ignore those comparable results for the most common resolutions on Steam and say that only the highest resolution counts and based on that M3 Max is weak and worthless.
It’s also funny to say that Apple GPUs are not powerful while again completely ignoring an important factor like power usage. In that previous video we see a desktop PC with desktop 4080 performing at about 75 fps in Resident Evil 4 at 4K with ray tracing, motion blur and lens distortion off while drawing over 300W for the GPU alone. M3 Max GPU draws only 35-55W in a stress test.
So a 300W desktop 4080 (not mobile in that video as previously claimed) is better in games at 4K than a mobile M3 Max? So what? Everybody knows that, but it doesn’t mean that M3 Max can’t be as good as mobile 4080 in other cases. That’s the main point here which some people as always like to ignore.
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It's hilarious saying that 4080 consume more power as RTX 40 series are 5nm based while M3 series are 3nm which is a huge difference. Cant really compare M1,2 series to RTX 40 series, huh? Also, you are totally ignoring ray tracing which requires a lot of GPU power while you never mention anything about it with M3 Max because it will heavily lower the performance. Also, we are talking about laptop 4080, not desktop. Beside, where is the result for M3 Max on RE4? You didnt even care to bring information.
Dont forget that Mac version has poorer detail and quality compared to PC version which defeats the purpose of 4K with high settings.
Here's the comparison between laptop 4090 and M3 Max but be aware, Nvidia used ray tracing while Mac did NOT which is totally unfair testing but you will see how powerful 4090 is even with ray tracing is on. Btw Resident evil does not support ray tracing on all Macs.
I think mixing and matching Steam stats is a problem. We don't know what percentage of 4080/4090 desktop/laptop users are running on a 1080p display. We do know that at least the desktop 4090 is wildly CPU limited at anything lower than 1440p, which makes comparisons of under 1440p resolutions suspect (IMO). Throw in how a lot of recent macOS AAA games enable MetalFX by default, with users choosing to not upscale to panel native resolution and we end up talking past each other on how Apple's hardware compares.
I wonder about that RE4 video, the 4080 got roughly the same FPS with RT on and off at 4K. That shouldn't be the case at all.
The problem is people may think that M3 Max = mobile RTX 4080 based on FHD and QHD results. I dont care about major players playing on FHD and QHD and I only talk about the GPU performance. Baldur's gate 3 already proves that M3 Max is never close to mobile RTX 4080 but 4060 as 4K utilize highest GPU cores.
If it works great on FHD and QHD, that's fine but doesn't mean M3 Max is as powerful as high-end mobile GPU. Beside, game is just one example which does not represent the final results.
We need to separate each results, not unify them.
