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tjleonard

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No.
And its not "pressing to unlock" and never was. Unlocking is the silent action that occurs by resting your finger on the sensor.

You don't press to unlock. You press to go to the Home Screen.
People would press the home button to wake it up, and it would unlock and go to the home screen immediately. iOS 10 doesn't do that. When rest your finger, you see an unlocked message at the top. This allows you to interact with any of your notifications.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what the deal with this many times. I personally just raise my iPhone (it lights up), press the home button (and it is quick enough it unlocks off the push). You can rest your finger on the home button, and it will unlock so you can interact (unrestricted) with the notifications.
 

ZEEN0j

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I've been trying to even think of what the option is even supposed to mean. It's kinda not clear at all.

Example (the way it sounds what it should do): Lets say it's for use with Raise to Wake. You wake the screen by raising the phone. "Rest to unlock" the Touch ID to jump to the Home screen without a single button press. Cool! People who hate pressing the Home button rejoice! Except that wouldn't work. How would one unlock to reply to a notification or interact with a widget if it just took you to Home (because doing so with Touch ID is required to do those functions. Unlock, not open)

Taking your ideas further. With the option on you raise to wake, rest finger and it unlocks. But if you force touch an notification or try using a widget that requires an unlocked state. It will bring up the passcode screen where you either enter it or use Touch ID to verify. (This is how it works on iOS 9).
 

bbfc

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Mine unlocks the phone too. By inconsistent, I mean that you have to press the home button a couple times before the getting to the home screen.

Since downloading beta 2, I pick up the phone, press the home button, the screen goes to the passcode screen, i press the home button again, then i go to the home screen.

This order of events is very consistent for me. I guess i could try a fresh install, but i'm not sure if that would make a difference or not.

Oh well, beta is beta.
That's by design. Rest your finger to unlock the phone. Its probably something to do with the new notifications.
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I dont understand the new system as well. Sometimes my 6s+ will unlock like before and sometimes I have to press the home button to unlock.
It will always unlock when you rest your finger on the Touch ID sensor.. You will see unlocked in the status bar. You then press home to go to the home screen.
 

bushido

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to sum it up ....

iPhone sleeping: Press and rest finger on TouchID = unlock + homescreen

iPhone sleeping: press + finger removed but screen still lit up + rest again = it unlocks so u can interact with notifications of any kind (security). this pretty much occures if you wait for about one second without doing anything. you can tell by the "press home button ..." message showing up and you will have to do version 1 again

iPhone sleeping: press + finger removed but screen still lit up + press and rest again = homescreen
 
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stooovie

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My 6s on b2 behaves exactly the same regardless if Rest finger is on or off. Goes straight to home screen on pressing Home. Even after multiple reboots.
 

Shirasaki

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This thread feels like a continual repeat. New person comes to complain about rest to unlock, someone clarifies it does nothing, someone posts a long explanation of how to unlock you phone, and then its back to the start
And users are just spinning because this is a non-existed problem after all.
I for example, cannot find anything unusual after this change. Quite contrary, I think using this way to unlock device is FAR more reliable than "swipe to unlock". This is because I always use plus size device and using single hand to "swipe to unlock" is generally harder. Using hardware button to unlock is better overall.
 

Cogsworth

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Since installing iOS 10 Public Beta 1 on my iPhone 6 Plus I was couldn't quite figure out how the new unlock/open scheme was supposed to work. I've been reading this thread looking for answers but it just seems like a lot of misunderstanding and confusion. Here is what I've figured out on my phone, hopefully others can confirm. My phone does not support raise to wake so I cannot test that, and it's TouchID V1.

In iOS 9, you could either press the home or power buttons to wake the screen, then rest your finger on the home button to unlock and open the home screen without a click. This behavior has changed and so far the new implementation seems really buggy and that's probably what's causing the confusion.

In iOS 10:

You can wake the screen by clicking either the power or home button, remove finger and the phone remains locked. Resting a finger on the home button unlocks but does not open the phone. Once it is unlocked, another click on the home button opens the phone to the home screen.

Sometimes, I have found that you can wake the screen by clicking the home button, remove finger, then rest finger on the sensor to unlock AND open the phone to the home screen without a second click. I have yet to figure out what conditions allow this. I would guess that this behavior is intended for when "Rest to Unlock" is enabled, or after "Raise to Wake?" I have never seen this work after waking with the power button.

OR

When the phone is asleep you can also click and keep your finger resting on the home button, which unlocks AND opens the phone. This seems to work reliably most of the time.

There is no way to unlock and open the phone without clicking the home button at least once, even after waking the screen with the power button. I see no difference whether "Rest to Unlock" is enabled or disabled even after multiple toggles and reboots.

Obviously these changes are intended to allow more interaction with the new notifications from the lock screen without opening the phone, but so far it's just really buggy. I'm sure as the beta testing continues the unlock/opening behaviors will be considerably refined. It's funny how such a small change can cause so much trouble, but not surprising since unlock/open is something we've all learned to do a certain way, habitually, several times a day for years now. :D
 
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Steve28

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Let me take a crack at this...

The problem is that through generations of iPhones, everyone got trained to press the home button to wake the phone so they could see the lock screen. What they didn't realize was they were actually asking the phone to go to the home screen and the phone was telling you it couldn't by only showing the lock screen. So you then swiped to unlock and the phone would proceed to the home screen. Since you had to see the lock screen before the phone could proceed, it started to be a place to put notifications and other useful items.

Then, with TouchID the problem was the button that everyone had been using to wake the phone was able to read your fingerprint and unlock it as you clicked. Therefore, the phone could proceed to the home screen (which it was asked to do by the act of clicking). Since TouchID is so good, pressing the home button no longer has the effect of showing your lock screen - you "blow past" the lock screen and the notifications and widgets are now harder to see.

In iOS 10, Apple gives you the option of unlocking the phone but remaining on the lock screen so you can read/interact with the widgets. This is done by the phone waking when it's raised and then only "resting" your finger on the button after the phone is awake. At this point your phone is "unlocked" but still showing you the notifications/widgets screen and you can interact with them.

If you woke your phone by pressing the home button with a non TouchID finger or even with a touchID finger but too fast to read it, then when you subsequently rest your finger on the button, it will go to the home screen. This is because pressing the home button will ALWAYS tell the phone you want to go the home screen, so it's just completing the action you asked it to do.

Apple appears to have also now through a preference setting allow users to return to the pre-iOS10 behavior, but that preference appears to be non functional at the moment.
 

Shirasaki

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Let me take a crack at this...

The problem is that through generations of iPhones, everyone got trained to press the home button to wake the phone so they could see the lock screen. What they didn't realize was they were actually asking the phone to go to the home screen and the phone was telling you it couldn't by only showing the lock screen. So you then swiped to unlock and the phone would proceed to the home screen. Since you had to see the lock screen before the phone could proceed, it started to be a place to put notifications and other useful items.

Then, with TouchID the problem was the button that everyone had been using to wake the phone was able to read your fingerprint and unlock it as you clicked. Therefore, the phone could proceed to the home screen (which it was asked to do by the act of clicking). Since TouchID is so good, pressing the home button no longer has the effect of showing your lock screen - you "blow past" the lock screen and the notifications and widgets are now harder to see.

In iOS 10, Apple gives you the option of unlocking the phone but remaining on the lock screen so you can read/interact with the widgets. This is done by the phone waking when it's raised and then only "resting" your finger on the button after the phone is awake. At this point your phone is "unlocked" but still showing you the notifications/widgets screen and you can interact with them.

If you woke your phone by pressing the home button with a non TouchID finger or even with a touchID finger but too fast to read it, then when you subsequently rest your finger on the button, it will go to the home screen. This is because pressing the home button will ALWAYS tell the phone you want to go the home screen, so it's just completing the action you asked it to do.

Apple appears to have also now through a preference setting allow users to return to the pre-iOS10 behavior, but that preference appears to be non functional at the moment.
This is by far the most informative reply.
 

lagwagon

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This thread feels like a continual repeat. New person comes to complain about rest to unlock, someone clarifies it does nothing, someone posts a long explanation of how to unlock you phone, and then its back to the start

Like mentioned before. Who knew the Home button a
Since installing iOS 10 Public Beta 1 on my iPhone 6 Plus I was couldn't quite figure out how the new unlock/open scheme was supposed to work. I've been reading this thread looking for answers but it just seems like a lot of misunderstanding and confusion. Here is what I've figured out on my phone, hopefully others can confirm. My phone does not support raise to wake so I cannot test that, and it's TouchID V1.

In iOS 9, you could either press the home or power buttons to wake the screen, then rest your finger on the home button to unlock and open the home screen without a click. This behavior has changed and so far the new implementation seems really buggy and that's probably what's causing the confusion.

In iOS 10:

You can wake the screen by clicking either the power or home button, remove finger and the phone remains locked. Resting a finger on the home button unlocks but does not open the phone. Once it is unlocked, another click on the home button opens the phone to the home screen.

Sometimes, I have found that you can wake the screen by clicking the home button, remove finger, then rest finger on the sensor to unlock AND open the phone to the home screen without a second click. I have yet to figure out what conditions allow this. I would guess that this behavior is intended for when "Rest to Unlock" is enabled, or after "Raise to Wake?" I have never seen this work after waking with the power button.

OR

When the phone is asleep you can also click and keep your finger resting on the home button, which unlocks AND opens the phone. This seems to work reliably most of the time.

There is no way to unlock and open the phone without clicking the home button at least once, even after waking the screen with the power button. I see no difference whether "Rest to Unlock" is enabled or disabled even after multiple toggles and reboots.

Obviously these changes are intended to allow more interaction with the new notifications from the lock screen without opening the phone, but so far it's just really buggy. I'm sure as the beta testing continues the unlock/opening behaviors will be considerably refined. It's funny how such a small change can cause so much trouble, but not surprising since unlock/open is something we've all learned to do a certain way, habitually, several times a day for years now. :D

On your "sometimes" scenario, it's time based. You have a short window of opportunity to re-place your finger on Touch ID to open the phone. But after that time passes you're telling the phone "hey, I just want to see my notifications and/or widgets and do something with them. So now only unlock the device if I Touch ID so I can interact with them. If I want to open my phone I will press Home."
 

Cogsworth

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Like mentioned before. Who knew the Home button a


On your "sometimes" scenario, it's time based. You have a short window of opportunity to re-place your finger on Touch ID to open the phone. But after that time passes you're telling the phone "hey, I just want to see my notifications and/or widgets and do something with them. So now only unlock the device if I Touch ID so I can interact with them. If I want to open my phone I will press Home."
Nope. I thought it might be time-based but it appears to be random. I can replace my finger on Touch ID immediately after waking with the home button and it will unlock but not open. When it does work, it doesn't seem to matter how long after the initial wake up click. It also doesn't matter how long the phone has been locked. In truth, I seem to get both behaviors randomly and I can't replicate either. The only thing that MIGHT be affecting this behavior is whether the phone has auto-locked or it was manually locked with the power button but even that is not consistent. It seems like I get the "sometimes" scenario more often after the phone has auto-locked.

In fact just now I let the phone auto-lock, clicked the home button to wake, waited a whole 5 seconds then rested my finger on TouchID and got the "sometimes" behavior...unlocked and opened without a second click.

Then I manually locked, clicked the home button again to wake, waited 5 seconds and rested on Touch ID and once again got unlock/open. But the second time I manually locked it went back to the other behavior and unlocked only on rest and required a second click to open.

I know I'm putting way too much thought into this but it's driving me nuts. Bottom line is it's beta software and its buggy.
 
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Cutiekitty92

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This thread feels like a continual repeat. New person comes to complain about rest to unlock, someone clarifies it does nothing, someone posts a long explanation of how to unlock you phone, and then its back to the start
Agreed... either way I much prefer how it used to be... touching the touch ID and bam straight unlocked and on to my home screen / dash whatever you wanna call it. Simple.
 
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iphonedude2008

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Agreed... either way I much prefer how it used to be... touching the touch ID and bam straight unlocked and on to my home screen / dash whatever you wanna call it. Simple.
The main reason for the change was so that people would be able to see notifications on the lockscreen and view widgets, but I would like the option for the old behavior, which is hopefully what rest finger to unlock is supposed to do
 
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Cutiekitty92

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The main reason for the change was so that people would be able to see notifications on the lockscreen and view widgets, but I would like the option for the old behavior, which is hopefully what rest finger to unlock is supposed to do
I really really hope so, as much as people moaned about it being unlocked too fast it was the best for me
 
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lagwagon

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Agreed... either way I much prefer how it used to be... touching the touch ID and bam straight unlocked and on to my home screen / dash whatever you wanna call it. Simple.

If you're waking the phone up via the Home button, you can still do that. Press Home once to wake the screen, leave finger on the Touch ID, go directly to the Home screen.
 

Cutiekitty92

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If you're waking the phone up via the Home button, you can still do that. Press Home once to wake the screen, leave finger on the Touch ID, go directly to the Home screen.
Yes that does work, but for example when you have the raise to wake function had it been on the old version I would just use touch ID to get to it without having to press a home button
 

lagwagon

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Yes that does work, but for example when you have the raise to wake function had it been on the old version I would just use touch ID to get to it without having to press a home button

True. But how would you unlock your device if say you went over to the widgets and wanted to open up an app from the Siri suggested apps without opening your phone first? Lock screen has two states now for that very reason. (Three states total. Locked, Unlocked and Open)
 

iphonedude2008

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True. But how would you unlock your device if say you went over to the widgets and wanted to open up an app from the Siri suggested apps without opening your phone first? Lock screen has two states now for that very reason. (Three states total. Locked, Unlocked and Open)
For me, I think the best way would be that at the main section of the lockscreen, touch ID immediately opens the phone, but if you're in camera or widget view, touch ID just changes state.
 

Feenician

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For me, I think the best way would be that at the main section of the lockscreen, touch ID immediately opens the phone, but if you're in camera or widget view, touch ID just changes state.

Doesn't really make sense. Responding to notifications happens on the "main" section. You're saying to unlock and respond to a secure notification you should first move to the camera or widgets, touch touchid then move back. For obvious reasons, not a good option.
 

lagwagon

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For me, I think the best way would be that at the main section of the lockscreen, touch ID immediately opens the phone, but if you're in camera or widget view, touch ID just changes state.

Replying to an email notification also requires Touch ID as well does it not? So it can't just apply to camera or widget screens. I'm sure other notifications do as well. (I could be wrong on both accounts though )
 

iphonedude2008

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Replying to an email notification also requires Touch ID as well does it not? So it can't just apply to camera or widget screens. I'm sure other notifications do as well. (I could be wrong on both accounts though )
Yes, but it just shows the passcode screen to authenticate and returns to the lockscreen after that. I just want the ability to quickly unlock with raise to wake as a setting
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Doesn't really make sense. Responding to notifications happens on the "main" section. You're saying to unlock and respond to a secure notification you should first move to the camera or widgets, touch touchid then move back. For obvious reasons, not a good option.
Nope didn't say that. The current method for dealing with secure notification actions works fine
 
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