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I’m wondering if Dan has ever owned or used any other VR headsets. They all seem equally isolating and capable of showing video, and it’s hard to say something is the best without comparing it to others.

The big issues with VR as a media platform are 1) glare 2) light leakage and 3) resolution.

Vision suffers from all of these problems. It has glare. It has light leakage. It has lower resolution than a 4k TV.

This is why it will fail as a media platform. Unless it’s seriously upgraded … and so far as we know NO company has been able to overcome these issues yet.
 
I appreciate the author's honesty about his job being to review Apple products and the transparency about this not being a perfect product. I appreciate that this didn't end up being an "Appel Fanboy" video and for not following the influencer "i'm returning it" trend.
 
The big issues with VR as a media platform are 1) glare 2) light leakage and 3) resolution.

Vision suffers from all of these problems. It has glare. It has light leakage. It has lower resolution than a 4k TV.

This is why it will fail as a media platform. Unless it’s seriously upgraded … and so far as we know NO company has been able to overcome these issues yet.
Sounds like a Series 0 Apple Watch to me. Need a few generations to figure out a use case.
 
Sounds like a Series 0 Apple Watch to me. Need a few generations to figure out a use case.

No it doesn’t. Because the Apple Watch nailed the form factor from the outset. Additionally, men and women have been wearing wrist watches since about 1917 so it faced zero negative social pressure. The problems with Apple Watch were primarily software related.

The Vision on the other hand has a horrible form factor that needs to drastically change if it has any chance of success. People have not been wearing heavy headsets for over 100 years. It faces MASSIVE negative social pressure. The primary problems with Vision are hardware related.
 
Let’s just say the AVP form factor has a long way to go if someone like this is going to become a user..

(Please note her stylish Apple Watch however)

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I doubt he/MR will be the only ones keeping their Vpros. Of course, the pessimists seem confident that all 100% of the buyers plus maybe 10% more than 100% will be returning Vpro... including the pessimists passionately returning the Vpro they did NOT buy and being sure to tell us all why they are returning what they did NOT buy in this and every Vpro thread hereafter and up to forevermore. ;)
I think that a huge number of people who thought that AVP is a product ready to use, will return it. Since it is not. Devs will keep it to develop and test their apps.
But this resembles just the opinion of the Apple staff who had concerns - and with Jobs, we would not have seen the AVP in 2024.

Tim is now doomed to succeed, if AVP fails - Tim might be history.
 
I always thought this was a bad bet. The technology is just not there yet. Apple spent a lot of effort on this and this is going to died in 2 years time, just like google glasses did. Meanwhile they are years behind in AI and are going to struggle to get near what other companies are doing. This is the kind of vision Tim lacks that Steve had.
Agree, Steve would have powered Siri beyond human knowledge at this time. He would have recognized that AI assistants will be the next leap jump and would have connected the dots much better that Tim did.
 
Very good review!

Every time he said, "but.." or qualified something that didn't work as desired or expected - is precisely the reason I returned mine.

It seems like there are two camps of people:

1) those that say, "buy it now, because it's going to get better in the future!"

2) those that say, "I see the potential of the future, but the ux/ergonomic are not there right now in this iteration, and the promise of the future does improve the usability right now."

There are so many people on this forum that when you criticize the Vision Pro, they take it as a personal attack, or they fight back with "it's going to improve". It's like going to a restaurant and getting food poisoning, but being told you should still eat it and enjoy it because the restaurant will make the food better next week😂😂
 
I think that a huge number of people who thought that AVP is a product ready to use, will return it. Since it is not. Devs will keep it to develop and test their apps.
But this resembles just the opinion of the Apple staff who had concerns - and with Jobs, we would not have seen the AVP in 2024.

Tim is now doomed to succeed, if AVP fails - Tim might be history.

You know it is NOT a product ready to use by what exactly? Did you try it? Or are you just going from opinions posted around here?

A very interesting exercise for anyone with any bent on this topic: instead of seeking out more of the same that supports your bent, seek out the best of the other side. In other words, instead of "half empty" take a fresh look as "half full" or vice-versa.

A curious thing happens when we humans take some side: we seem to notice more of what supports our view and ignore or miss the stuff that takes the other side. For every post one might find of someone claiming it is "not ready to use" one can find posts by people passionately talking about its very useful benefits to them (and vice versa). For every post of "no use case" and "solution in search of a problem", one can find posts of people posting their use cases that work well for them and how is solves tangible problems for them. All it takes is looking... and being open to opinions that differ from our existing bent.

Apparently hundreds of thousands already purchased this because they thought they saw enough in it to justify the high price of it. While some will certainly return it for whatever reason, I suspect many- probably most- will KEEP the one they bought... because instead of passing judgement of it based upon posts they read online, they've now owned it for some number of days, done various things with it and have passed first hand judgement if it does enough for them.

There was a time in history where many rallied around "If God wanted man to fly... he'd given us wings." I happen to live more than a thousand miles from where I was born. I'm glad the pessimists didn't kill that business before it 'got off the ground' because they didn't like the concept, or didn't appreciate the noise, or worried about certain death when those crazy contraptions inevitably crashed, etc... else, I'd probably still live within about 20-40 miles of my birthplace... perhaps never seeing anything beyond maybe 100 miles of that spot.

Maybe Vpro will fail to take enough hold to keep getting investment and evolution? Or maybe it will gain its footing over time, as more give it or future, refined generations a try and find enough in it to own one themselves. I recall that iPod launch thread here... AFTER the Lord Jobs himself had just rolled it out... and many of "us" ripped it to shreds as a product with mostly the same kind of (too expensive, too different, cheaper competition, etc) gripes we sling at this thing. Glad Apple didn't listen to the pessimists then too. I thoroughly loved even that first iPod. It actually brought me to Apple... and led to countless purchases from Apple since.

If that's perhaps too far back for some of us, "we" used to collectively ridicule phablet-sized phones to no end while Apple clung to 3.5" and then 4" as the "perfect" phone screen size: "one handed use", pants with bigger pockets, man purses, developer fragmentation, etc. The word "abomination" was slung liberally... until Apple went phablet. If you were ever a phablet pessimist BEFORE Apple went there, I encourage you to take a peek at what's in your pocket now.
 
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some of us long term AAPL people remember the doom and gloom leading up to 1999, and the post-1999 doom and gloom. We also learned to LOL at the massive crash/dip in AAPL stock price before WWDC events, and the ensuing climb 2-3 or so days after.

Apple has (since day 1 of being in a garage when Steve and Steve were both members of the Homebrew Computer Club) been making people confused over what they do.

If this is a flop, I'll eat my iPhone 1.

cheers and just let the future happen, folks.
 
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