Well, if you look at that same graph, without tinted glasses, you’ll also realize those are all Windows 10 computers that run a full featured OS.
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What?! Women were ripping off their bras and hurling them at Tim Cook when he announced that life-changing improvement.
No argument here. The Fuji app is clumsy and slow - seems like an afterthought. But it does work. I use the iPad and occasionally the Fuji app for web images, Christmas cards, etc. Critical work is on Photoshop on a desktop.
Yeah I was one of them hoping we’d be able to use usb-c to it’s full potential. But deep down, I knew apple would lock it with a chastity belt.
I was just asking because a few here have said that the iPad is computer replacement yet they occasionally use an imac at home or have access to a work laptop for more complex tasks.
It's a bit like someone saying that a Porsche 911 GT3 is usable as a daily driver but they also use their wife's range rover for shopping and weekend trips.
But that would obviously take significant changes to iOS. People should have known better. Maybe in iOS 13, but not now.
Until iOS will allow iPad to do these, I will continue buying Macs, especially given much higher price tag that puts iPad at the same price level as new MacBook Air (256 GB on both, Smart Keyboard on iPad Pro):
- USB-C external storage in any apps that support Files app
- Pointing device (e.g., trackpad) when connected to external display or Smart Keyboard
- Relaxed App Store rules to allow additional development languages (ideally with IDEs like Xcode or CodeRunner)
- Safari with full desktop power
- Limited windowing, for instance, apps can run in a window similar to picture-in-picture video
I'm happy for you. My mother is also able to survive quite happily on an iPad. A year ago she desperately wanted to have a laptop because she felt she might need one. So we found a nice cheap laptop. A month ago she realized she had never used it and gave it to my brother.
But I can't manage any of my websites on my iPad. Not Wix and not Google. So I (I) can't rely on only my iPad.
I will agree with the notion that if they want to market to power users they need to get some power in the software. Generally Apple doesn't do market research groups etc but in this case I think they should, even if it's just via doing some research into what folks are saying on boards like this, twitter etc.
One of the things they could do that would create some 'power' in the software would be to really look at the features on the computer and ask if they could be applied to iOS. I think there are several that could be.
It was a bait and switch. Especially since he doesn't even dig chicks.
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Having used (and loved) my Gen 1 iPad Pro for the last three years, I was hoping the usefulness of it would not be so incremental. It has so much potential, especially now that it is more powerful than most MacBook Pros. Whether you are an artist or you are involved in numerous word processing projects or manipulating multiple .pdf's, I thought we would be a little closer to the realization of the "Pro" component other than it means "expensive". I don't need it to replace my MacBook Pro in every instance, they can compliment each other, its just that iOS is lagging this product behind.
yes it can. maybe not for you but you aren't everyone. not everyone needs a 'real computer'
One way the iPad can replace a laptop is when you have simple mobile computing needs. Then, you can have a desktop in the office/home for heavy lifting and an iPad to carry around for light productivity. For example, I find the iPad very capable for: mail, messages, calendar, notes/sketches, annotating/marking up PDFs and documents, creating drafts of simple documents, edits in the Photo app, simply iMovies...etc. In addition, it is great for consumption: books, movies, and videos.
So, if your on-the-go productivity needs are simple and straightforward, then it’s pretty nice to just carry around a 1lb iPad. Now, my experience is limited to the basic 2017 iPad, and I can imagine folks can do more with an iPad Pro, especially in the area of creativity, design, drawing, etc.. Of course, eventually, you will probably run into iOS limitations. For me, the biggest issue is that sometimes I need to have multiple windows open on a large screen with the speed and precision of a keyboard and mouse. I fought it for a while by trying to attach a keyboard to my iPad in an effort to get it to do stuff that was just not optimal. Then, I thought: why am I doing this? So now, I just use the desktop when I need it and use the iPad for mobile productivity.
Hopefully, iOS 13 will be another major step forward for productivity like iOS 11.
So, if your on-the-go productivity needs are simple and straightforward, then it’s pretty nice to just carry around a 1lb iPad. Now, my experience is limited to the basic 2017 iPad, and I can imagine folks can do more with an iPad Pro, especially in the area of creativity, design, drawing, etc.. Of course, eventually, you will probably run into iOS limitations. For me, the biggest issue is that sometimes I need to have multiple windows open on a large screen with the speed and precision of a keyboard and mouse. I fought it for a while by trying to attach a keyboard to my iPad in an effort to get it to do stuff that was just not optimal. Then, I thought: why am I doing this? So now, I just use the desktop when I need it and use the iPad for mobile productivity.
Hopefully, iOS 13 will be another major step forward for productivity like iOS 11.
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thank you for being honest about this. so many folks just say that you can't create on the iPad because they have no knowledge or experience and they aren't honest about that lack so they can come off like a great expert.
It’s not a laptop replacement. It is a consumption centered mobile computer vs. a laptop which is a productivity centered mobile computer. It is far better than a laptop for consuming content and can do some creative stuff, particularly drawing very well.
Remember back when the iPad debuted? What did Jobs compare it to? The netbook. Remember those? They were cheap little laptops that were made for light tasks and consumption, but the form factor was not meant for that. The iPads are getting more capable all the time, but they aren’t meant to be optimized around most types of content creation.
Remember back when the iPad debuted? What did Jobs compare it to? The netbook. Remember those? They were cheap little laptops that were made for light tasks and consumption, but the form factor was not meant for that. The iPads are getting more capable all the time, but they aren’t meant to be optimized around most types of content creation.
for YOU. for many of us the iPad is a creation device that serves our needs just as well if not better than a 'mobile computer'.
so you do you and leave the rest of us to do the same. we don't dump on you that you can't understand how to create with an iPad so give back what you are getting from us and stop with the computer snobbery
Sure thing.
Also, I will say that there are some mobile productivity application that the iPad is much better than a laptop. For example, when I take notes in meetings, I much prefer an iPad to a laptop. I do not type lengthy notes during a business meeting....that’s pointless. It’s just verbatim dictation, and I walk away without a clue about the meat of the meeting. Instead, I write or type a few key points and then try to sketch out the problem or issue.....typically business flow type diagrams. They are very simple and not highly detailed, but very helpful in walking away from the meeting with a common understanding of the problem.....which is often the first step in getting something solved.
This argument is as bad as the semantics of "we're saying LAPTOP not DESKTOP!"
First, laptop vs desktop shouldn't be any different from each other. For YEARS I used a laptop as my primary computer. Gaming, work, photo editing, etc. It was my computer. Let's just throw the semantics rubbish out the window.
Second, the "it can replace a computer for SOME" argument is garbage as well. A Prius can get someone to the grocery store just as well as a Lambo... Either the ipad can check the same boxes as a laptop, or it can't. It's not user specific when making statements such as "laptop replacement option!" It either is, or it isn't. It's apples and oranges at this stage in the game.