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It is getting harder to love apple when they do things like intentionally cripple a universal standard.

From the sounds of it, we will be locked into special USB cables even if we pay more for the Pro series phone to get the best fast charge and data speeds.

It is a little excessive, at least to me.
Yeah this seems like such a bick move
 
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It is getting harder to love apple when they do things like intentionally cripple a universal standard.

From the sounds of it, we will be locked into special USB cables even if we pay more for the Pro series phone to get the best fast charge and data speeds.

It is a little excessive, at least to me.

thank the EU
 
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I think everyone is going to be pleasantly surprised here. The rumors are vastly misunderstood, as usual.

I think the iPhone 15/15 Plus will have USB 3.0 with 5 Gbps transfer speed, and iPhone 15 Pro/Max will have Thunderbolt 3/4.

That makes the most sense for a port update.
 
It is getting harder to love apple when they do things like intentionally cripple a universal standard.

From the sounds of it, we will be locked into special USB cables even if we pay more for the Pro series phone to get the best fast charge and data speeds.

It is a little excessive, at least to me.
It's a rumor, it didn't happen yet.
 
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Will they offer USB-C male to Lightening femaile cables so I can still use my lighting cables in some places like my CarPlay. I have uses for the USB-A end (again carplay) I hope also can get USB-C to USB-A cables.
Why would you buy an adapter instead of just buying a new cable? It's not like USB-C cables are expensive or hard to find.
 
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USB 2.0 was released back in April 2000.

Apple is going to limit the speeds of a 2023 phone based on a year 2000 standard?!
I think more likely it will be USB 3.0 for the iPhone 15/Plus models. But if its not, it barely matters. Wired data transfer on the base models is barely even a thing in 2023. Most base iPhone users wouldn't even know how. Goodness knows it isn't an easy thing to do in the first place.
 
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Apple will just move the lightning chip inside the iPhone to maintain their firewall and will continue to operate at USB 2 speeds. o_O
And you'll have to busy all new dongles for hdmi, Ethernet and sd card readers as well as more power bricks.
 
The point was to keep them out of the landfills. Most people are more likely to have a few USB C cables sitting around than a few lightning. The problem is, USB C has a wide spectrum of charging levels they can support. Some can charge a massive laptop. Others would be fried by fast charging a small phone.
And the point is also the speed. Why Apple would choose to use a speed standard from more than 2 decades in 2023 is infuriatingly stupid. Nobody else puts speed caps on their cable transfer like Apple. It's asinine.
 
Who said I'm mad? *sips coffee*
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Most base iPhone users wouldn't even know how. Goodness knows it isn't an easy thing to do in the first place.
Agreed. And even though it’s been around for years elsewhere, USB-C on iPhones will certainly result in more need for customer service and helpful forum members. 😉
 
Lol. If Apple tries limiting the USB-c in any way whatsoever the EU is going to come down on them like a ton of bricks.
It does not need to be an Apple certified cable, but you don't want to run full current through a cable that has not been certified to handle it. Early USB C cables were not designed to handle that much power. They will start smoking and then, your device will be fried. The question is, will Apple allow outside standards bodies to certify the devices as safe for full power? I suspect that they will, if it is the USB-IF group. If it is just some shop on the corner printing out stickers, not so much.
 
Q: If the EU hadn’t ruled on a universal tech standard and Apple was still putting Lightning on the iPhone 15 series, would this piss you off?
 
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Very proud to be European. Luckily, we're getting the full speeds of USB-C by law
Nobody is above us 🇪🇺
I'm pretty sure the USB-C standard only requires USB 2.0 for data transfer. Any higher data speeds are optional. I don't believe the EU law requires anything above the base USB-C standard in regards to data transfer so there is no requirement for Apple to offer anything more than USB 2.0 speeds. Afterall, most USB-C charging cables are USB 2.0-only and don't have the high speed data lines to support USB 3.0 or higher speeds at all.

In regards to charging speeds though, I believe the EU law requires that any device supporting fast charging must support USB-C Power Delivery. So Apple can't apply MFi restrictions to fast charging.
 
Let’s not forget the catalyst for this change is the EU directive to decrease e-waste - Apple is intentionally INCREASING e-waste if they choose to force consumers into buying more USB-C cables or be punished for using their existing ones.
 
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