Speed matters on all modelsI agree that stinks but, speed matters the most on the Pro models.
Not to give any praise to Apple if rumors are corrrect....but USB-C is already this way lol. You need "special" USB-C cables to get certain speeds Power capabilities. The icing on top is majority of companies don't label what the capabilities are. The USB-C cable that came with your one accessory you bought may "work" with your other device, but may not be able to handle quick charging on your other device or may not be thunderbolt capable, oh but what thunderbolt do you have? so yes 1 cable to rule them all, but until there is something that requires labeling them it is going to be (already is) worse than HDMIIt is getting harder to love apple when they do things like intentionally cripple a universal standard.
From the sounds of it, we will be locked into special USB cables even if we pay more for the Pro series phone to get the best fast charge and data speeds.
It is a little excessive, at least to me.
I like how everyone’s talking as if this is just an apple problem.And the point is also the speed. Why Apple would choose to use a speed standard from more than 2 decades in 2023 is infuriatingly stupid. Nobody else puts speed caps on their cable transfer like Apple. It's asinine.
This USB-C change seems unproven and unsafe. We just don't know what the long-term effects of USB-C on iPhones might be! They should have stuck with Lightning.
What, do they still have excess inventory of controllers/chips, or (given that USB 3 is almost 10 years old at this point) are they intentionally crippling the speed for other reasons?
I don’t think apple will be allow to cripple the speeds as the EU wrote Apple a letter. See, EU Warns Apple About Limiting Speeds of Uncertified USB-C Cables for iPhonesSounds like intentional crippling so we’ll be motivated to buy the Pro models.![]()
Forgive my ignorance, but why will iPhones be stuck on USB 2 while iPad Pros get USB 3.2/Thunderbolt 3? Is it just technical reasons, or is it just a way for Apple to differentiate Pro/iPad versus non-Pro/iPhone? If the latter, just seems like a douchey move. Plus, I would expect that having everything on the same version might help with economies of scale? I don't know much about that, so I'm kind of talking out of my ass at the moment.Speed Differences
While all iPhone 15 models are expected to have a USB-C port, only the Pro models will support at least USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3 for faster data transfer speeds up to 40 Gbps, according to Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. He expects the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus to remain limited to USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps like Lightning.
iPad Pros gained Thunderbolt 3 support in 2021, while the USB-C port on the latest iPad Air is capable of up to 10 Gbps transfer speeds.
Lightning could always go faster and does in some scenarios. The limiation was never Lightning it was being cheap on the controller in the device itself.The point of moving to USB-C (aside from the universal standard) is the speed. Making it the same speed as lightning would be incredibly stupid.
Apple Accessories Moving to USB-C
With the iPhone 15 switching to USB-C, several Apple accessories are expected to follow suit:
Thanks for the straw man. I don't care what other people are doing.I like how everyone’s talking as if this is just an apple problem.
Several of the biggest android phones from last year were still limited to 2.0 speeds, this is not an Apple problem.
This article from android Authority also easily shows that it very much is not an Apple problem, it’s a USB-C adoption problem from all companies on all sides.![]()
It's 2024 and USB-C is even more of a mess
USB-C phones and devices are billed as the one-stop solution for all our future cable needs, but feature compatibility is a major problem.www.androidauthority.com
There are several android devices… That are limited to low charging speeds and 2.0 data transfer.
Not to say that Apple launching phones with 2.0 speeds in 2023 is a good thing, it very much is not.
But to pretend its limited to Apple, it’s only because of Apple‘s greed, and it’s going to affect that many people is ridiculous.
Sure, is it a tactic to get Apple customers to use their cables and to pay more for their phones? Of course.
But to pretend like that’s the only reason that MFI exists is just absurd.
At the end of the day, the people who really want faster speeds are going to be purchasing apples cables, and they’re going to have the pro phones. Everyone else won’t care, will probably just use the included cable and won’t ever know the difference between 2.0 and 3.0 and all the different generations of 3.1 and 3.2 and thunderbolt.
The EU has already warned Apple that this won’t fly: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/04/eu-warns-apple-about-limiting-usb-c-iphone-cables/Am I reading this right in that Apple will handicap non-apple overpriced cables via software essentially?
Waiting for the iPhone Pro Magnificooo here.No more Freddie Mercury cables. This makes me sad. "Thunderbolt and Lightning very very frighting me!" Perhaps they could name their next cables Galileo Figaro.
That's not related to this. The rumor is Apple will throttle the speed of their own cables on the lower end iPhone models.The EU has already warned Apple that this won’t fly: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/04/eu-warns-apple-about-limiting-usb-c-iphone-cables/
Nah, the point of moving to USB-C is to placate the EU. There might be other benefits to it, but that's reason number one why Apple is doing it.The point of moving to USB-C (aside from the universal standard) is the speed. Making it the same speed as lightning would be incredibly stupid.
In replacing iPhones with broken ports, perhaps. Time will tell. Speed issues aside, the female Lightning port is not as fragile.Standard or not, they’ll find a way to get their money don’t you worry…
I bet on the cable.Let’s see what lives longer. The EU or the lightning cable.
It’s a RUMOR, not a fact. The EU has already sent a letter to Apple warning them not to do it.Am I reading this right in that Apple will handicap non-apple overpriced cables via software essentially?
My comment was with respect to “Uncertified cables will allegedly have limited charging and data transfer speeds” in the present MacRumors article.That's not related to this. The rumor is Apple will throttle the speed of their own cables on the lower end iPhone models.