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Running with the Apple Training app
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HealthFit, is one of the best iOS app for sport/health follow up.
True. Really massive features and high quality. Worth every cent.
Happily paid this guy though I am not using it. Sounds absurd? Maybe. But I have other established tools in my workflow that do the same stuff like runalyze and RunGap.
It can sync from my rower (Smartrow) and it can sync to Garmin Connect.
Not sure about the other differences in connected services.
Yes, RunGap is only for syncing. Nothing more in there.
You are right, as I see no point to send my data to garmin, I don’t miss this feature
I do all my runs with the Training app (and WatchFit for scheduling) and am happy with what it does, but now I got a .gpx for a trail race I'm doing next year and since it's right outside my door I'm curious to preview the trail.
So what would be your recommendation for an app to following a GPX route using only a (cellular) watch, if I'm only going to be doing it once or twice?
So what would be your recommendation for an app to following a GPX route using only a (cellular) watch, if I'm only going to be doing it once or twice?
1) Footpath if you want turn-by-turn navigation and run with the Training app. You could do your trail run within the trial period or subscribe on a monthly basis.
2) Workoutdoors if you don't need turn-by-turn navigation and warnings are sufficient if you leave the route
Apple Maps does not allow for uploading a GPX track so this option is out
You can also try my app: YouRace ...
It uses native Apple Maps and displays any imported GPX with off road alerts.
Yes, it's a one time purchase.
Offline maps rely on apple offline maps mode.
You have to download map using Apple Maps and sync them to apple watch
If it's successful you can use Apple Maps on the watch without network connectivity (you can try that before purchasing yourace).
Offline maps rely on apple offline maps mode.
You have to download map using Apple Maps and sync them to apple watch
If it's successful you can use Apple Maps on the watch without network connectivity (you can try that before purchasing yourace).
Just wanted to share some good energy - an afternoon like this, reminds me why I love running with my Apple Watch.
I know nothing of this is super unique to the Apple Watch, but the seamless overall experience is just lovely.
I usually don' t run with music, but today was a hard track session, so thought it might assist me with some good tunes - On with my AirPods - no prep - and select playlist and the custom workout I created earlier and go... And the track feature just snaps on and is so precise.
Just so seamless and my wife can even get in contact with me if needed (or I the other way around)
Just sharing - beautiful experience on a beautiful afternoon
I know nothing of this is super unique to the Apple Watch, but the seamless overall experience is just lovely.
I usually don' t run with music, but today was a hard track session, so thought it might assist me with some good tunes - On with my AirPods - no prep - and select playlist and the custom workout I created earlier and go... And the track feature just snaps on and is so precise.
Just so seamless and my wife can even get in contact with me if needed (or I the other way around)
Just sharing - beautiful experience on a beautiful afternoon
Strava released their statistics for 2024. The first two devices which uploaded runs are now Apple Watches:
Pulling up this thread again.
Had a weird bug lately where I did a custom workout and afterwards the GPS track was missing right after I started the intervals, exactly where I pressed the action button to leave warmup. All other data (heart rate, power, cadence) is there and the overall distance is correct. So GPS should have been active all over the workout, don't think pedometer could produce these exact values.
Found some occurrences in Apple support communities and on Reddit but problem seems rare.
Reported it to Apple.
Anyone else had this glitch too so maybe we could nail down similarities?
Had a weird bug lately where I did a custom workout and afterwards the GPS track was missing right after I started the intervals, exactly where I pressed the action button to leave warmup. All other data (heart rate, power, cadence) is there and the overall distance is correct. So GPS should have been active all over the workout, don't think pedometer could produce these exact values.
Found some occurrences in Apple support communities and on Reddit but problem seems rare.
Reported it to Apple.
Anyone else had this glitch too so maybe we could nail down similarities?
It happens …
Location tracking in HealthKit is separated from the rest of data collection.
Gps is almost not used for distance and speed.
Most of the work is done by pedometer which is calibrated with gps data.
It’s surprisingly accurate.
If the app runs out of memory or eats too much cpu, route collection can be interrupted.
Location tracking in HealthKit is separated from the rest of data collection.
Gps is almost not used for distance and speed.
Most of the work is done by pedometer which is calibrated with gps data.
It’s surprisingly accurate.
If the app runs out of memory or eats too much cpu, route collection can be interrupted.
Maybe. But would be a big coincidence when this happens to several runners on the same occasion, directly after the warmup and only on custom workouts.
I suspect there is a bug when syncing to the iPhone.
I think it’s not a sync issue.
The gps route is saved in batches, all the data written in health kit is synced, if it’s not synced, it’s 99% because it’s not saved during workout or because the route saving has crashed when finishing the workout.
In my app, to avoid (quite frequent) crashes when saving I record all data in core data so it can be restored
The gps route is saved in batches, all the data written in health kit is synced, if it’s not synced, it’s 99% because it’s not saved during workout or because the route saving has crashed when finishing the workout.
In my app, to avoid (quite frequent) crashes when saving I record all data in core data so it can be restored
This could well be.
As you are a coder: is such a crash in the logs of the Watch? Any hint what to search for?
I have downloaded the syslog of that day to my Mac and browsed through tons of data. Filtered, tried string queries. Not possible if one does not know what to search for. ;-(
Syslog are sometimes very opaque.
Apple is probably able to see something, but I am pretty sure they are aware of this problem. It’s something I periodically see for years.
It doesn’t depend on the app as we all use the same APIs (HKWorkoutRouteBulder: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/healthkit/hkworkoutroutebuilder)
This builder runs besides HKLiveWorkoutBuilder which collects all the other workout data (distance, time, speed, cadence, heart rate, power …)
That’s two distinct data collections, and at the end we attach the route to the workout, and it’s again two separate queries to get this data from healthkit
Apple is probably able to see something, but I am pretty sure they are aware of this problem. It’s something I periodically see for years.
It doesn’t depend on the app as we all use the same APIs (HKWorkoutRouteBulder: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/healthkit/hkworkoutroutebuilder)
This builder runs besides HKLiveWorkoutBuilder which collects all the other workout data (distance, time, speed, cadence, heart rate, power …)
That’s two distinct data collections, and at the end we attach the route to the workout, and it’s again two separate queries to get this data from healthkit
A post about Training app, even if not exactly running with it.
I went to ski 10 days ago, I recorded a Snowboard session (because Alpine Skiing has an awful translation in Italian menu, "Discesa Libera" that is competitive Downhill skiing, so I couldn't find it at start). Now with WatchOS11 Snowboard, Alpine skiing and other activities should record distance and GPS track. But export to Strava didn't export the map, even if I could create a video on Relive. I tried to record at the same time the tracks on the station's app, based on skitude (that does not write on Health) but the second app didn't work.
I went to ski 10 days ago, I recorded a Snowboard session (because Alpine Skiing has an awful translation in Italian menu, "Discesa Libera" that is competitive Downhill skiing, so I couldn't find it at start). Now with WatchOS11 Snowboard, Alpine skiing and other activities should record distance and GPS track. But export to Strava didn't export the map, even if I could create a video on Relive. I tried to record at the same time the tracks on the station's app, based on skitude (that does not write on Health) but the second app didn't work.
Was it on a track? I have a weekly custom run on track with different sets - warm up is always running the 3,5K to the track and it then says "Looks like you are on a track - Select lane" and I do and press action to start first interval. One day I was low on time and needed to skip the last couple of splits by pressing my action button a couple of times before getting to the cool down section. When I got home all data, like yours, was perfect except for the map data. It didn't show the GPS section to and from the track but only the track data - a bit weird. Only happened once though and run at least once a week over there.