Actually Not This! There is no way that is the issue. As i said before anyone saying they do not have lag either a. Have something on their computer making it run differently or b. Don’t notice it. There is a near 0 probability that half of us got a M1 Mac that has stutter and the other half didn’t Unless there is some difference between machines. I’m going to try an adblocker but as i said its usually when I’m fast scrolling that it happens slow scroll it doesn’t. So it may also depend how people use their machines.
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Safari scrolling performance vs Intel
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Actually Not This! There is no way that is the issue. As i said before anyone saying they do not have lag either a. Have something on their computer making it run differently or b. Don’t notice it. There is a near 0 probability that half of us got a M1 Mac that has stutter and the other half didn’t Unless there is some difference between machines. I’m going to try an adblocker but as i said its usually when I’m fast scrolling that it happens slow scroll it doesn’t. So it may also depend how people use their machines.
Ugh, I was kind of hoping it was the ads, but sounds like it's not if you're using Wipr. I hope they can fix / improve this with updates because, it sounds silly, but Safari scrolling smoothness is very important to me. Even though I'm an engineer and use my machines to write, compile, and run all sorts of code, web browsing is still probably the thing I do most on any computer. And I tend to be a fast scroller (flick and catch), so a machine typically has to have quite good GPU performance to keep Safari scrolling smooth for me.
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Really hope this is what's affecting the M1 Air I played with and that it gets fixed.
I don't think it was this. I let the page finish loading before scrolling, and even came back to the M1 Air after trying the Intel MacBooks, which were literally right next to the M1 Air, so the page had been loaded for a few minutes by that time.
I see lag in everything I use, phones, ps5 , works laptop etc. I read some people are more susceptible to seeing Frame drops and lag, unfortunately I am one of them. I get annoyed watching some tv as the camera doesn't pan smoothly etc. I def see lag on safari on the M1 but I'm used to seeing it, it annoys me but I guess its one of those things!
That’s called motion blur. If movies didn’t have it they would look like soap operas.
Any modern web browser made within the last year or two, on a computer made within the last couple years, even with built-in video (like the M1 Macs) should be able to handle any web sites with ease. The fact that you're seeing something like stodgy scrolling in Safari indicates something is seriously wrong, software-wise. If it doesn't add up (make sense), then it's not a hardware issue. Common sense would tell you that...
Our LG 65" 4K OLED TV does that... makes ANY movie look like a soap opera! We ended up watching an Indiana Jones movie (don't recall which one) and it was like watching a totally new movie! Fun and freaky at the same time! Why do soap operas look like that, anyways? Why aren't ALL TV shows and movies filmed that way?
You can turn it off. Disable TrueMotion under Picture Mode Settings.
It should be the first thing you turn off on any TV.
Pretty good write-up on the "why": https://www.cnet.com/how-to/soap-opera-effect-tom-cruise-wants-you-to-turn-it-off-heres-how/
In short: we are used to watching movies in 24fps, and motion interpolation screws up the aesthetic, big time. The first thing I do with any TV is turn the motion control off.
The 16" MBP I had was worse for scrolling, it would normally be running on the built-in Intel graphics which on those chips is a really poor version, worse than the Iris Pro that you get on the 13" Intels. The M1's should wipe the floor with it. I can certainly attest that scrolling in Safari on my M1 Air is much smoother than my recently sold 16"
Are you referring to mouse scroll wheel scrolling? That annoys me too, but I was referring to trackpad scrolling, which still supports smooth scrolling... as long as the CPU / GPU can keep up.
Sure, in theory, every modern computer, phone, and tablet should have powerful enough hardware to scroll web pages smoothly. In reality, there is plenty of poorly optimized software that causes stutters on modern, powerful machines. And it doesn't always get fixed quickly, or at all in some cases.
Guys this is Cleary a software issue with safari. I notice it on some sites and as soon as I use Chrome they are fine.
Do the 16" MBPs switch over to the dedicated GPU when plugged in? Because scrolling was very smooth on the 16" MBP at Costco, but it was plugged in, so maybe it would have been different on battery power.
Or, if this is indeed a Safari bug, maybe the Intel MacBooks on display were running an older version of Safari than the M1 Air. I'll have to check that next time I'm there.
Im referring to trackpad scrolling on my Air. Where do you see an option for smooth scrolling?
See this thread
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Safari 14.0.1 breaks .webloc icon previews
Still on Catalina 10.15.7 SuppUp and just installed Safari 14.0.1 (15610.2.11.51.10) over 14.0 today, and all my .webloc icon previews are blank. That includes desktop icons, folder icons, and Get Info Preview icons. Anyone else? They used to look like this:
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