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I'm currently on 10.9. I waited a little too long to download Yosemite and now Apple doesn't have it on the App Store. Know of a safe place to download Yosemite?

Why I want Yosemite and not El Capitan:
I've already gotten notifications that "Starting with OS X 10.11, Apple has restricted kernel level mixing access for third party vendors." Which means, 10.10 is the end of the line for some of my music hardware and software. I got burned upgrading OS X 1-4 too soon, so I usually stay one operating system behind to make sure I have something stable.
 
I'm currently on 10.9. I waited a little too long to download Yosemite and now Apple doesn't have it on the App Store. Know of a safe place to download Yosemite?

Why I want Yosemite and not El Capitan:
I've already gotten notifications that "Starting with OS X 10.11, Apple has restricted kernel level mixing access for third party vendors." Which means, 10.10 is the end of the line for some of my music hardware and software. I got burned upgrading OS X 1-4 too soon, so I usually stay one operating system behind to make sure I have something stable.

I agree and am angry Apple have removed Yosemite already; it's insane. I too have to carefully think about compatibility with older software and hardware - not everyone updates stuff constantly like Apple, and suddenly finding out I have to spend a few hundred pounds after an upgrade is not an option. Apple seem to have dropped the ball as far a this goes. Not happy.
 
^^^^Which is why on the day of release or during the life of an OS, you should make a an installer USB stick for that OS. I currently have USB Installer Disks for OS 10.8, 10.9, 10.10 and 10.11. That's why I did and can offer to help. I don't blame Apple here at all. It's out with the old in with the new, as it should be. Is Adobe still selling CS6 or Microsoft still selling Office 2011? I still own and use both, but have have Installer Disks in case something happens. Just my opinion.

Lou
 
I'm currently on 10.9. I waited a little too long to download Yosemite and now Apple doesn't have it on the App Store. Know of a safe place to download Yosemite?

Why I want Yosemite and not El Capitan:
I've already gotten notifications that "Starting with OS X 10.11, Apple has restricted kernel level mixing access for third party vendors." Which means, 10.10 is the end of the line for some of my music hardware and software. I got burned upgrading OS X 1-4 too soon, so I usually stay one operating system behind to make sure I have something stable.
Check your personal messages...
 
I'm currently on 10.9. I waited a little too long to download Yosemite and now Apple doesn't have it on the App Store. Know of a safe place to download Yosemite?

Why I want Yosemite and not El Capitan:
I've already gotten notifications that "Starting with OS X 10.11, Apple has restricted kernel level mixing access for third party vendors." Which means, 10.10 is the end of the line for some of my music hardware and software. I got burned upgrading OS X 1-4 too soon, so I usually stay one operating system behind to make sure I have something stable.

You have to login to the App Store and select My Purchases. You should see Yosemite there.
 
^^^^Which is why on the day of release or during the life of an OS, you should make a an installer USB stick for that OS. I currently have USB Installer Disks for OS 10.8, 10.9, 10.10 and 10.11. That's why I did and can offer to help. I don't blame Apple here at all. It's out with the old in with the new, as it should be. Is Adobe still selling CS6 or Microsoft still selling Office 2011? I still own and use both, but have have Installer Disks in case something happens. Just my opinion.

Lou

I still have a Yosemite install drive, and also have the Mavericks install file on my system so I could build one of those if needed.
 
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It's available on BT, and since it was free to start with, that doesn't constitute piracy. Or, there are about 500 copies on Ebay for a nominal sum.
 
Unless you have some way to verify a checksum against a verified legitimate copy of the OS I'd be VERY wary of using a bit-torrent copy. I'd rather pay someone from here a nominal fee for time plus shipping costs to ship a flash drive both ways and have them build it for me (if I didn't have the installer on my system already).
 
Unless you have some way to verify a checksum against a verified legitimate copy of the OS I'd be VERY wary of using a bit-torrent copy. I'd rather pay someone from here a nominal fee for time plus shipping costs to ship a flash drive both ways and have them build it for me (if I didn't have the installer on my system already).

That's why I included the Ebay option. You can buy the original install disks for about $15.
 
It's available on BT, and since it was free to start with, that doesn't constitute piracy. Or, there are about 500 copies on Ebay for a nominal sum.
You obviously have not read Apple's EULA or missed the part where it says that you, and only you have been granted a license to use not own the software in question.
 
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You're right. I haven't. Always just hit "Agree."

I figure that their $220 billion in cash can take the hit.

That's also why I threw in the Ebay news. If he pays for it, he's satisfied their rentier ownership complex.
 
Unless I'm mistaken, Yosemite was never officially distributed on disks of any kind. It was only available as download from the MAS or installed on new Macs (which haven't included reinstall discs since Mountain Lion I believe, if not before).
 
^^^^AFAIK, you are correct. My 5,1, built in 2011, did not come with discs. However, I do believe, for a time, Apple was selling the OS on a USB stick. My memory is fuzzy on the time frame however. The last Mac to include an optical drive, a MacBook, was discontinued in 2013.

Lou
 
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^^^^AFAIK, you are correct. My 5,1, built in 2011, did not come with discs. However, I do believe, for a time, Apple was selling the OS on a USB stick. My memory is fuzzy on the time frame however. The last Mac to include an optical drive, a MacBook, was discontinued in 2013.

Lou

Not to cast aspersions, Lou, but there are 111 new Snow Leopard DVDs for sale on Ebay right now, for $20-50. They had to come from somewhere. I bought my 5,1 in 2011 as well, and I guess I'm going to have to dig up those disks, if they exist, just to prove it to myself, if no one else.

The upshot of all this is, Apple was giving away the software, for FREE. By definition, FREE means that you can do whatever you want with it, if they don't even value it enough to charge for it. They are telling you to do so, making their EULA a toothless snow leopard. Only the resellers are making money on it.

I don't know how much plainer they could state it.
 
^^^^I really have no reason to not be truthful, but my cMP (bought new in June of 2013) was built in August of 2011 and did NOT come with any discs. And I don't remember what OS was originally installed, but it was probably Lion (10.7) that was released in July of 2011.

Lou
 
^^^^I really have no reason to not be truthful, but my cMP (bought new in June of 2013) was built in August of 2011 and did NOT come with any discs. And I don't remember what OS was originally installed.

Lou

Swear I didn't imply that you were being untruthful.

Everymac Says it came with 10.6.4.
 
Yes, 10.6.4 (Snow Leopard) was the original OS installed on early 5,1s. I've been buying Macs since 1986, and it has always been Apple's practice to include the latest OS issued as of the build date of a machine. In the early days, they would exchange the supplied discs with later ones. As my machine did not have disks, it must have come with Lion installed on the HDD. See attachment from Mactracker that tells the same story.

Mac Info.jpg


Lou
 
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I apologize if I gave you the impression that I thought you were being untruthful. I really didn't mean to.

I remember updating 10.6.4 to 10.6.8. Because I have the tendency to not fix things if they aren't broken, I skipped all subsequent upgrades to the OS. It is only because I am gutting the 5,1 now that I am forced to deal with all this new software, and decide which programs to ditch, what to replace them with, or maybe try SL Server on a Virtual Machine.

I saw two simple ways for the OP to solve his problem. Wish now I had not contributed to this thread.
 
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