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flyinmac

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Next year we'll see the introduction of phones that don't use batteries. Get out your soup cans and string, innovation is coming soon. :cool:
 

mrex

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Samsung is already full-steam ahead in creating the Galaxy S8 all the while basing the design off of Apple'a rumored plans for the iPhone 8. It's being reported that Samsung will remove the home button as well as eliminate the top and bottom bezels: two moves Apple is likely preparing for the iPhone 8 due to be released next year. As Samsung's Galaxy brand is just an iPhone copycat, there will also be a dual camera setup on the S8.

Yes, the iPhone version of this design won't explode.

http://www.androidauthority.com/com...utton-full-screen-display-dual-camera-720700/

Samsung will debut the phone in February, a full seven months before Apple debuts the iPhone 8.


Oh well, iphone 7 was rumored to be bezeless - but it still has huge bezels - while samsung already has screen from side to side with no bezels.

Im pretty sure samsung wont copycat iphone - say one who wants to have galaxy phone with huge bezels as iphone has?

Will you see bezeless iphone8? Keep dreaming!
 

bhayes444

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Interestingly, for several years it has actually been Samsung who has done something different. They started coming out with bigger and bigger phones when everyone was saying that 5" is too big. They added the pen with the Note, They came out with the curved displays and while they are still pretty much a gimmick they are a distinct feature and in the Note 7 don't seem to be something that harms the use of the phone (the Edge phones seem to have issues with distortion of the image around the curve) while allowing it to be slimmer in width (because that has a bigger impact on holding the phone than thickness).

At the moment we are at a point where few if any phone manufacturers are doing anything to make them stand out. All the better phones on the market are nearly identical with only small details and software to distinguish them. Smartphones have become a commodity where a several years old model is more than good enough.

I really hope that next year manufacturers dare to be unique. Not everything has to come in black and silver aluminum or glass in 5.2-5.5" size.
Yeah, Samsung has done a pretty decent job at upping their design; and now make some pretty good looking devices. Compare that to their taco phone of a few years ago, and anyone can see they've come a looooong way. Taco, is a bit of an exaggerated description, but the Samsung Galaxy Round was terrible looking.
 

Ries

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The fact is that not everyone uses phones as their tools. A wrench also doesn't cost close to a £1000 which is pretty difficult for some people to afford. A phone is way more personal than a wrench and people can't help but have a bond with it. Same as how some people bond with their car or watch.

You may not be a phone nerd but a significant number of people on forums like these are and they do care about usability, hardware and software. Some people like me are in it from a professional perspective and some for pure fun of it.

A wrench doesn't cost close to a £1000? Well, tools can be expensive, the right ones can cost that much.

Enerpac S3000 Hydraulic Torque Wrench Drive Unit
https://www.amazon.com/Enerpac-Hydr...e=UTF8&qid=1476030937&sr=8-16&keywords=wrench

Price: $11,203.28 + $4.49 shipping
 

mi7chy

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Do people do any research before posting non-sense? Simple Google search would tell you Samsung had a dual camera phone back in 2007.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/dual-camera-phones-gallery/
1-samsung-sch-b710-1.jpg
 
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5105973

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What's the big deal? The LG G5 I tried in Best Buy last week didn't have any buttons at all in the front.

They look like this:

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shyam09

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Samsung is already full-steam ahead in creating the Galaxy S8 all the while basing the design off of Apple'a rumored plans for the iPhone 8. It's being reported that Samsung will remove the home button as well as eliminate the top and bottom bezels: two moves Apple is likely preparing for the iPhone 8 due to be released next year. As Samsung's Galaxy brand is just an iPhone copycat, there will also be a dual camera setup on the S8.

Yes, the iPhone version of this design won't explode.

http://www.androidauthority.com/com...utton-full-screen-display-dual-camera-720700/

Samsung will debut the phone in February, a full seven months before Apple debuts the iPhone 8.
Wow ... the ignorance is strong in this one.
 

Blaze4G

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If true, how would Samsung removing the home button be anything remotely similar to copying Apple when Google has been trying to get OEMs to use the on screen navigation buttons for years? If anything, this would be seen as Samsung finally falling in line with expected design. Also, I highly doubt Apple or Samsung would be able to eliminate the top and bottom bezels. Reducing the bezels on a device is usually one of the top complaints consumers have about devices nowadays. Just look at the flak the Google Pixel phones are getting for their giant bezels. Even if Samsung designed a phone based off of rumors, why would that matter? I'll concede the dual camera point, as the only other application a dual camera has served on a phone was to take 3D pictures. Hopefully Samsung can come up with a decent idea to put a second in there other than optical zoom or 3D pics. That dual camera application of 3D pictures proved less than fruitful.

They are just rumors about rumors, hardly anything concrete. Other phone manufacturers have already produced devices that use one or both of these rumored "features". I don't see how any of this is really Samsung or Apple copying anybody, just refining and playing catch-up in all honesty.
Huawei and LG both had dual camera phones before the ip7 too. LG second camera is a wide angle lens and huawei is a monochromatic lens and does some other things that I don't remember Lol.
 

T48

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Samsung has no choice but to BRING IT with the S8.

Samsung needs to go more for the hearts & minds emotional aspects of earning trust of consumer even if they have to have a third year so to speak of the same design devices.

For the op, when the Galaxy S7 series launched back in Feb, the rumor mill was already buzzing with the iphone for 2017. Point is, long term plans are in place of where mfg's are heading long before the public is aware. With the volume that Apple & Samsung kick out every year, they cannot knee jerk react on design/hardware with sudden changes.

Oh & then there is the fact that Apple & Samsung, while competitors do work together.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/29/samsung-to-remain-leading-supplier-amoled-panels/
 
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Lloydbm41

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I think the OP was referring to an iPhone with an all glass front with no bottom bezel which 'includes' the home button and fingerprint reader under the glass. Apple does have a patent awarded for such tech. What the OP failed to mention is that Apple is actually copying the S7 Edge in 2017, as Samsung is already awarded the contract to supply Apple with the duel edged screens. Not to mention the iPhone 8 will have a rear glass back with wireless charging (copying Samsung)... IF you believe the rumours.

But really, who cares? I want the best options available to me on my phone regardless if it is an iPhone or an Android based phone.
 
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I don't own samsung phone but I have android devices: Nvidia Shield TV and Google Nexus Player. I have experience with android platform. Nexus player is collecting dust, and the Shield is running Plex server. Android user experience is so horrible that I use ATV 4 instead of the Shield as my main client streaming device.

Let't not even talk about updates. have to wait months or year to get update. how can you get the best experience/security with late updates.

I have a coworker at work, and he just got a replacement Note 7. poor guy... He does not even realize that his second Note 7 is not safer than the first one. and he has two daughters at home.
You sound very ignorant
 

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Samsung can copy all they want but without vision and with rushing out features for the sake of being first, they will have half-baked product, as usual.
As usual you say.. interesting as the s7 edge has already started winning phone of the year awards. And if that's with a half baked handset.. boy, what does that say about the rest...
 

MICHAELSD

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Do people do any research before posting non-sense? Simple Google search would tell you Samsung had a dual camera phone back in 2007.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/dual-camera-phones-gallery/
1-samsung-sch-b710-1.jpg

Other phones also had fingerprint readers before the iPhone that worked poorly, but when Apple added a fast, usable fingerprint sensor everybody else followed suit by making it mainstream.
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How exactly do you copy something that hasn't been released?

Samsung has been reducing bezel size with each iteration.

And some companies like Motorola already have buttonless phones.

The irony is the timeframe: Samsung adds features that the iPhone has had planned for years months before the new iPhone release to be first to market with a half-baked product.
 

apolloa

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Do people do any research before posting non-sense? Simple Google search would tell you Samsung had a dual camera phone back in 2007.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/dual-camera-phones-gallery/
1-samsung-sch-b710-1.jpg

No they don't, many on here seem to believe Apple invented the cellphone I think. They certainly don't see to know about the huge mobile market that exists outside the US and did so before the iPhone.
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microsoft had tablet long before ipad came out. samsung like to be the first with new tech. apple is late but they do it righ: ipod, ipad, iphone are the examples.

No they don't, all those products have ALL had numerous issues over the years and iOS has been getting progressively more and more buggy! They do not 'do it right', and even using that logic it makes it a complete farce for Apple to be awarded any patents or sue anyone as they are just mearly copying everyone else.

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Other phones also had fingerprint readers before the iPhone that worked poorly, but when Apple added a fast, usable fingerprint sensor everybody else followed suit by making it mainstream.
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The irony is the timeframe: Samsung adds features that the iPhone has had planned for years months before the new iPhone release to be first to market with a half-baked product.

Apple bought a company that made finger print sensors, and what Apple phone has a stylus? Oh and the iPad Pro COMPLETELY RIPPED OFF THE SURFACE PRO with its stylus idea, and what Apple phone has a curved screen?
Are you one of these people that believes Samsung has a time machine and travels to the future to copy Apples ideas?

I bet next year if the iPhone has a curved screen you'll accuse Samsung of copying them for the last three years :rolleyes:
 
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Lloydbm41

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Other phones also had fingerprint readers before the iPhone that worked poorly, but when Apple added a fast, usable fingerprint sensor everybody else followed suit by making it mainstream.
[doublepost=1476042167][/doublepost]

The irony is the timeframe: Samsung adds features that the iPhone has had planned for years months before the new iPhone release to be first to market with a half-baked product.
You mean like LTE chips, OLED, curved screens, high resolution displays, wireless quick charging, large phablet phones, capacitive buttons, etc...? All half baked, right? :rolleyes:
 
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normanfox

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As usual you say.. interesting as the s7 edge has already started winning phone of the year awards. And if that's with a half baked handset.. boy, what does that say about the rest...

s7 edge was released officially 6 months ago in March. it is sold for around $380 used with retail price of $790. that is around 52% loss of value within 6 months. that is a so-call year-award phone. if it is a great phone, why it loses value so much and so fast?

iphone 6s+ 32GB current retail is $650 and sold around $450 used on ebay. so it loses around 30% value. and it is one-year-old phone.

S7 edge lost 52% value after 6 months.
6s+ lost 30% value after 1 year.

android phone lost values faster than they can release a new one.
 
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macfacts

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s7 edge was released officially 6 months ago in March. it is sold for around $380 used with retail price of $790. that is around 52% loss of value within 6 months. that is a so-call year-award phone. if it is a great phone, why it loses value so much and so fast?

...

Because 6 months later, customers can buy brand new from stores on sale prices.

With iPhones, 6 months later, if someone buys from Apple it is still full price. So someone selling an iPhone doesn't have to compete with a store selling for cheaper.
 
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s7 edge was released officially 6 months ago in March. it is sold for around $380 used with retail price of $790. that is around 52% loss of value within 6 months. that is a so-call year-award phone. if it is a great phone, why it loses value so much and so fast?

iphone 6s+ 32GB current retail is $650 and sold around $450 used on ebay. so it loses around 30% value. and it is one-year-old phone.

S7 edge lost 52% value after 6 months.
6s+ lost 30% value after 1 year.

android phone lost values faster than they can release a new one.
Might have something to do with the fact that there are more choices for consumers when it comes to Android phones and the churn rate Samsung puts phones out. However, depreciation values have little to do with winning phone of the year honours.
 
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admob71

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s7 edge was released officially 6 months ago in March. it is sold for around $380 used with retail price of $790. that is around 52% loss of value within 6 months. that is a so-call year-award phone. if it is a great phone, why it loses value so much and so fast?

iphone 6s+ 32GB current retail is $650 and sold around $450 used on ebay. so it loses around 30% value. and it is one-year-old phone.

S7 edge lost 52% value after 6 months.
6s+ lost 30% value after 1 year.

android phone lost values faster than they can release a new one.
Can you explain in very simple terms so I can understand how your reply has anything to do with what I wrote?

I'll save you the bother. NOTHING!!

Next time try and make your reply have some context please.

All you need to know is that as far as the tech world.is concerned this year, that the galaxy s7 edge made by SAMSUNG is the premier device released in 2016. Does that bite a tad?
 
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normanfox

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Can you explain in very simple terms so I can understand how your reply has anything to do with what I wrote?

I'll save you the bother. NOTHING!!

Next time try and make your reply have some context please.

All you need to know is that as far as the tech world.is concerned this year, that the galaxy s7 edge made by SAMSUNG is the premier device released in 2016. Does that bite a tad?

you said it is an award-wining phone. yet its value plummets so fast within 6 months. so your claiming of it as great phone is contradicting with market value. Great device = great value. is that simple enough for you?

you can call it as great as you want but market demand (consumers) decides what value and how great it is.
 

apolloa

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you said it is an award-wining phone. yet its value plummets so fast within 6 months. so your claiming of it as great phone is contradicting with market value.

you can call it as great as you want but market demand (consumers) decides what value and how great it is.

I see, so you are not capable of understanding how something that costs so much less then an iPhone can be so much better? Because in your mind, the Apple marketing machine has brain washed you to believe it must be an expensive iPhone to be the best, anything cheaper is garbage?

Do you ever stop and think to yourself, just how did Apple get all that money? Whilst handing over several hundred to several thousand of your currency for old tech? The longer a mass produced item is in production the cheaper it is to make, that includes over a year, and yet Apple passes NONE of those savings onto you, the customer.
 
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