Samsung Galaxy III blows past 4S preorders, "most preordered gadget in history".

[MonkeySee....]

So Apple never copied anyone either? Does the xerox GUI ring a bell? You know for a FACT? Do you understand the definition of fact? And Apple data mines too by the way, but I guess you like Apple so much you have no problem with that.

And really using an Android is like using your laptop. If you're smart about what you install on your phone, you won't have any problems. Remember all those OS X security issues a while back and the flashback trojan? I seem to remember everyone dismissing it as a non issue and telling people to use some common sense and not click on suspicious links or download suspicious files. Same concept here, except it's Samsung.

Original? You care about being original so much? Tell me what exactly is the brand of your car? Is it a Ford? Oh and best is subjective

Did they copy it or take the idea and make it better? Its a subtle difference but still a difference.

 

[KnightWRX]

Shady Samsung
- pre-orders are from 100 carriers (aka channel stuffing)

How does channel stuffing work ? Seems to me, after 3 generations in as many years of Galaxy S models, if the things weren't selling and Samsung was only "stuffing" channels, carriers would stop carrying and buying the model...

Oh wait, did I just use logic here ?

 

[roadbloc]

Did they copy it or take the idea and make it better? Its a subtle difference but still a difference.

What is to say that Google didn't do that with Android then? An Android fan will naturally think Android is better than iOS, and if iOS was the thing that inspired it, then it is exactly that.

 

[KnightWRX]

What is to say that Google didn't do that with Android then? An Android fan will naturally think Android is better than iOS, and if iOS was the thing that inspired it, then it is exactly that.

Except, again, what did Android even copy from iOS ?

- Android is an OS based on a Linux kernel using a VM known as Davlik to run userspace code which is compiled to an intermediate bytecode from Java. It runs a UI based around the concept of user positionned and chosen widgets.
- iOS is an OS based on a Darwin kernel using ARM compiled binaries for userspace applications compiled from either C or Objective-C. It runs a UI based around the concept of an icon grid to launch applications.

What the hell does one have to do with the other except for the fact they're both mobile OSes ?

 

[roadbloc]

Except, again, what did Android even copy from iOS ?

- Android is an OS based on a Linux kernel using a VM known as Davlik to run userspace code which is compiled to an intermediate bytecode from Java. It runs a UI based around the concept of user positionned and chosen widgets.
- iOS is an OS based on a Darwin kernel using ARM compiled binaries for userspace applications compiled from either C or Objective-C. It runs a UI based around the concept of an icon grid to launch applications.

What the hell does one have to do with the other except for the fact they're both mobile OSes ?

From what I can see... every little. I do believe that iOS was a source of inspiration for certain aspects of the Android GUI though, not that there is anything wrong with that. Let's face facts here, they have both taken features from one another, all the time.

 

[KnightWRX]

From what I can see... every little. I do believe that iOS was a source of inspiration for certain aspects of the Android GUI though, not that there is anything wrong with that. Let's face facts here, they have both taken features from one another, all the time.

What aspects though ? Buttons/labels/scrollviews (things we've had for decades...) ? The GUIs use very distinct concepts, one that is rigid to offer recognizability and the other which is customizable to offer flexibility.

The paradigms, the designs, they're all pretty much polar opposites.

 

[MonkeySee....]

What is to say that Google didn't do that with Android then? An Android fan will naturally think Android is better than iOS, and if iOS was the thing that inspired it, then it is exactly that.

I personally don't think Android looks the same UI as iOS so not sure what your point is?

 

[jabbawok]

All the same source....



Sounds like BS to me but to be fair I don't really care too much.

Quite. Sounds more like an un-named Samsung press release.

More to the point, who has pre ordered these? Is it end users laying down cash or just distributors and retailers.

On a side note, saying "it's not plastic, it's polycarbonate" is like saying "it's not metal, its aluminium"..

 

[KnightWRX]

On a side note, saying "it's not plastic, it's polycarbonate" is like saying "it's not metal, its aluminium"..

Sounds like Apple spin to me. There's nothing wrong with plastic anyhow, many great Apple products have been made and are still made out of plastic.

 

[kdarling]

On a side note, saying "it's not plastic, it's polycarbonate" is like saying "it's not metal, its aluminium"..

The funny thing is that a lot of us grew up with metal and glass things.

Then when plastics and such came along, it was the cool space age material.

Now the popularity wheel turns again to glass and metal.

It will turn again soon to something else.

..

Wristwatch radios and boom boxes: same thing. Small phones and larger phones. Mini-skirts. Midi-skirts. Small. Big. Small again. Big again.

They're all just passing fashion trends.

 

[smoledman]

So the consensus is the 9 million are being channel stuffed, not actual consumers orders.

Shady Samsung, bad!

 

[G51989]

So the consensus is the 9 million are being channel stuffed, not actual consumers orders.

Shady Samsung, bad!

uhh what?

Samsung has no advantage to channel stuff. The only reason the carriers are ordering this many phones combined with actual customer pre orders, is that the carriers realize that people are going to want these phones.

 

[KnightWRX]

uhh what?

Samsung has no advantage to channel stuff. The only reason the carriers are ordering this many phones combined with actual customer pre orders, is that the carriers realize that people are going to want these phones.

No, you don't understand, the channels are overstuffed with the Galaxy S, the Galaxy S II, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus, and now carriers are ordering a bunch of Galaxy S III to sit on the shelves in their big warehouses next to all these Samsung phones!

Samsung doesn't sell any actual handsets to consumers, carriers just buy bigger and bigger warehouses to store all the extra inventory that keeps getting stuffed, quarter after quarter, in the "channel".

 

[AppleScruff1]

No, you don't understand, the channels are overstuffed with the Galaxy S, the Galaxy S II, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus, and now carriers are ordering a bunch of Galaxy S III to sit on the shelves in their big warehouses next to all these Samsung phones!

Samsung doesn't sell any actual handsets to consumers, carriers just buy bigger and bigger warehouses to store all the extra inventory that keeps getting stuffed, quarter after quarter, in the "channel".

At last! Someone who understands.

 

[Jb07]

In other news, Ford sells more cars than Ferrari or Mercedes.

Thanks for the laugh. You really think Apple is an exclusive luxury brand?
$199 for the base iPhone vs $199 (most likely) for the base GSIII definitely does not make the iPhone more exclusive than the GSIII.

 

[thekev]

iPhones = Ferrari of mobile phones
Samsung Galaxy S line = Ford Fiesta

The forum really has too much garbage like this. There's nothing really exclusive about the iphone. While it was really impressive what they brought to a mass market level, it is still a mass market device filled with cheap components like any other phone. There really isn't an ultra high end to most electronics. Once you get down to a basic level, they're all made from cheap, mass produced parts.

 

[AppleScruff1]

I see lots of iPhone's and lots of Toyota's and Honda's. I seldom see a Ferrari. Would that make the iPhone the Toyota of the smartphones? Everybody has one.

 

[KnightWRX]

There really isn't an ultra high end to most electronics. Once you get down to a basic level, they're all made from cheap, mass produced parts.

Sure there is :

http://vertu.com/

Vertu. Luxury electronics for the CEO.

 

[MonkeySee....]

Thanks for the laugh. You really think Apple is an exclusive luxury brand?
$199 for the base iPhone vs $199 (most likely) for the base GSIII definitely does not make the iPhone more exclusive than the GSIII.

You can go into a store and buy a new base iPhone for $199?

I'm not from the US so can you pick me up a few??

 

[G51989]

You can go into a store and buy a new base iPhone for $199?

I'm not from the US so can you pick me up a few??

If your signing a new contract, or getting your free upgrade, some carriers charge 0 dollars for the iPhone, when time came to get my upgrade, I upgraded from my Blackberry to a iPhone4S for zero dollars.

 

[Consultant]

What is to say that Google didn't do that with Android then? An Android fan will naturally think Android is better than iOS, and if iOS was the thing that inspired it, then it is exactly that.

Huge difference:

Apple compensated Xerox and got permission to access it
Android did not obtain any permission

 

[KnightWRX]

Huge difference:

Apple compensated Xerox and got permission to access it
Android did not obtain any permission

Android did not obtain any permission because it did not need to.

 

[smoledman]

Android did not obtain any permission because it did not need to.

Wrong, Google did not obtain any licensing to develop Android the way they did. It's a blatant IP theft.

 

[roadbloc]

Wrong, Google did not obtain any licensing to develop Android the way they did. It's a blatant IP theft.

I guess that is why Apple is doing a fantastic job of suing Google. Oh wait...

 

[KnightWRX]

I guess that is why Apple is doing a fantastic job of suing Google. Oh wait...

They aren't, because there's no IP to sue over. Even Oracle in the end had nothing and Google basically used Java.

There's nothing in Android that closely ressembles iOS. Apple is going after the hardware manufacturer, because most of their patents are about hardware or touch gestures. Google makes software, not hardware.