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torana355

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I guess I haven't decided how important privacy and security are to me in my smartphone decisions.. this is why I ask possibly like minded folks.. clearly I want my banking apps secured, but that is all that is necessary.. a smartphone is what I use for everything, it is my only computing device, however nobody would be interested in the things I do.

I can only give you my experience of using Android phones since I switched from the iPhone 4 and I can say I've never had an issue especially with Online banking. I think its best to do your own research and make your own decision on how important your privacy is to you, just remember even if you don't use a mobile phone at all its hard to escape from your information being obtained one way or another.
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I bought the Note 9 because it's got literally everything I've ever wanted in a smartphone and packs more value and useful features than any other device on the market. It's my vision of the perfect device in 2018.

Also, the Note is a very niche line that your average consumer may not even be vastly aware of. Hardly a status symbol.

Not knocking those who purchase it at all (I own one), but the iPhone X is far closer to a status symbol than the Note line. The difference in what you're paying for is quite staggering tbh.
That is so true, the Note is more of a nerd phone then a status symbol imo.
 

bgro

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Welp I broke down and ordered a Note 9 128/6 from Samsung. Got a pretty good deal on it I think, got a targeted promotion where I was able to trade in an old OG Pixel for $450 (i'll have to buy one on Swappa) plus got a few bucks off for student discount and ebates. Total out the door with tax was $545+ ~$175 to buy a Pixel = $720. Couldn't pass at that price. I think I'm gonna go the Grumpy Mom route and rock 2 lines one with an Iphone and one with the Note..now it just needs to get here!
 

Retops

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Welp I broke down and ordered a Note 9 128/6 from Samsung. Got a pretty good deal on it I think, got a targeted promotion where I was able to trade in an old OG Pixel for $450 (i'll have to buy one on Swappa) plus got a few bucks off for student discount and ebates. Total out the door with tax was $545+ ~$175 to buy a Pixel = $720. Couldn't pass at that price. I think I'm gonna go the Grumpy Mom route and rock 2 lines one with an Iphone and one with the Note..now it just needs to get here!

Excellent deal.

I am also going the two line route, getting a new one for my Note 9. The Note will be used more as a data center, computer, and mobile accounting tool, but I since I have 20GB of data available on AT&T, I am looking forward to using it on the go without depending on public wi-fi. I may even make a few calls on it.
 
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Cnasty

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Excellent deal.

I am also going the two line route, getting a new one for my Note 9. The Note will be used more as a data center, computer, and mobile accounting tool, but I since I have 20GB of data available on AT&T, I am looking forward to using it on the go without depending on public wi-fi. I may even make a few calls on it.

I am exploring this option with ATT as well of adding a line and using it solely for the Note 9 and keeping my X+ whenever it comes out.

Were you able to use the BOGO offer? Really stuck in option hell. I know, first world problems.
 

Sevanw

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Just watched it...

The industry needs companies to max out their flagships & keep their competitors on their toes. Their boundary-pushing feature-set should trickle down the pecking order in the near future. Well played, Samsung. Ball now in Apple's (6.5" iPhone) court.

All of us need to do away with our bias & instant reaction to put down people who use a competitors device - appreciate the progression Android AND Apple are coming up with every year, as it means all our phones will keep getting better.

I've always said closed ecosystems are the second worst thing for the industry. The first worst thing being, consumers who let themselves be sucked into one. How many times have you heard Apple users say, I would love to try that Galaxy or Note device, but I'm afraid to leave the ecosystem. I need iMessage or I have a Mac and don't think the Galaxy will play as nice with my other Apple devices. So this is why I've always said, the breakthroughs and innovation will come through the hungriest OEMs, which will always be the Android OEMs. Apple have no competition in their own ecosystem, they got their users willfully locked and loaded at their mercy. They don't need to advance their phones year after year to get their users to buy. It's the nature of the closed ecosystem beast. The iPhone will always keep advancing on a "need to" basis. Meaning as soon as the customers start trickling out for compelling Android devices. This guy here kinda gets it....

 

Retops

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I am exploring this option with ATT as well of adding a line and using it solely for the Note 9 and keeping my X+ whenever it comes out.

Were you able to use the BOGO offer? Really stuck in option hell. I know, first world problems.

I ordered my Note 9 from Amazon and got the free fast charger and DEX connector from them. Adding a line to an existing plan costs about $25 plus/minus local taxes and allows the two phones to share data.
 

Cnasty

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I ordered my Note 9 from Amazon and got the free fast charger and DEX connector from them. Adding a line to an existing plan costs about $25 plus/minus local taxes and allows the two phones to share data.

Meaning you bought it unlocked is my guess though correct? My $50 estimate was with NEXT and the added line.
 

nrvna76

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I've always said closed ecosystems are the second worst thing for the industry. The first worst thing being, consumers who let themselves be sucked into one. How many times have you heard Apple users say, I would love to try that Galaxy or Note device, but I'm afraid to leave the ecosystem. I need iMessage or I have a Mac and don't think the Galaxy will play as nice with my other Apple devices. So this is why I've always said, the breakthroughs and innovation will come through the hungriest OEMs, which will always be the Android OEMs. Apple have no competition in their own ecosystem, they got their users willfully locked and loaded at their mercy. They don't need to advance their phones year after year to get their users to buy. It's the nature of the closed ecosystem beast. The iPhone will always keep advancing on a "need to" basis. Meaning as soon as the customers start trickling out for compelling Android devices. This guy here kinda gets it....


Not sure I agree with your whole assessment here.. to say that Apple does not innovate because their customers are stuck isn't exactly true.. the pace of smartphone development in general has slowed quite a bit. Note 9 relative to Note 8 is just a generation evolution, it's great and they attacked the biggest weaknesses of the Note 8 but I wouldn't necessarily call it innovative. FaceID however is pretty damn innovative. You can argue whether or not you like it as an individual but they are years ahead of any Android competitor.
 

Sevanw

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Not sure I agree with your whole assessment here.. to say that Apple does not innovate because their customers are stuck isn't exactly true.. the pace of smartphone development in general has slowed quite a bit. Note 9 relative to Note 8 is just a generation evolution, it's great and they attacked the biggest weaknesses of the Note 8 but I wouldn't necessarily call it innovative. FaceID however is pretty damn innovative. You can argue whether or not you like it as an individual but they are years ahead of any Android competitor.

Watch the video, that guy kinda sums up what I'm saying. I never said Apple won't advance their devices with innovation. They just don't do it as often. This is why you waited years and years and years for smaller bezels. With Apple's money and position in the industry, smaller bezels and OLED displays should have happened much sooner.
 

5105973

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I've always said closed ecosystems are the second worst thing for the industry. The first worst thing being, consumers who let themselves be sucked into one. How many times have you heard Apple users say, I would love to try that Galaxy or Note device, but I'm afraid to leave the ecosystem. I need iMessage or I have a Mac and don't think the Galaxy will play as nice with my other Apple devices. So this is why I've always said, the breakthroughs and innovation will come through the hungriest OEMs, which will always be the Android OEMs. Apple have no competition in their own ecosystem, they got their users willfully locked and loaded at their mercy. They don't need to advance their phones year after year to get their users to buy. It's the nature of the closed ecosystem beast. The iPhone will always keep advancing on a "need to" basis. Meaning as soon as the customers start trickling out for compelling Android devices. This guy here kinda gets it....

I think the closed ecosystem could have remained advantageous had Apple stayed hungry. But they did seem to coast for a bit during a period of malaise. Perhaps the build out of the spaceship campus was too consuming. Or maybe the long slog into China was too draining. I don't know.

I do know just a few years ago it would have been crazy to leave such a well oiled ecosystem backed by so many well designed and top-serviced individual parts. It did all "just work" and played together very nicely compared to what was going on outside of the Apple ecosystem. Apple stuff was the stuff to get for our less tech savvy family members, especially. Yet it was still really powerful and useful equipment.

But look at how many parts of that ecosystem they killed off or let die a slow painful death...yet kept the insanely high prices.

For quite some time I perceived them as only showing signs of hunger for China's market and perhaps a tiny bit, for now, for India. And so far all that's gotten most of the rest of us is red and pink phones and the SE and a foothold into the US for Didi.

The innovations in the iPhone X are impressive and obviously now very imitated. I'm not personally excited about them, but I acknowledge their significance. But it's just one part of the ecosystem. I am looking forward to seeing if Apple is going to rise up with a new strong ecosystem in the next few years now that they seem to be waking up to how badly their neglect of desktops has reflected on their image.

They're in the process of bringing together a lot of disparate elements we never saw them mess with before, like original programming. I don't know what they're up to with automobiles. They're getting into health data. Right now they're going through something akin to puberty for business and so it isn't always pretty, but it is promising.

For me as an individual customer I don't currently see any advantages to being totally enmeshed in any one ecosystem, so I dabble.

I hope this post is coherent. Morning coffee has worn off. :confused::rolleyes:
 

michael9891

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It's good that those buying in the US from Samsung get a decent trade in value. They'll only offer me £100/$127 for a 128gb 2 XL. Which is ridiculous. Pretty sure today is the last day I can get £550 trade in towards the N9 at CPW.
 

Fernandez21

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I don’t see that option around but to b honest, not sure that would entice me more than some of the other deals I posted above.

Adding another line adds $50 a month to my phone bill but also gives me the flexibility to get the X+ down the road on my upgrade for comparison.

Freakin tech addiction :(
Yup, I now have three lines reserved for upgrades, an iPhone X line, Note line, and Galaxy S-series line.
 

tonybarnaby

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I want a note 9 and can easily afford one (not a humble brag) but I am obsessed with getting a deal. I don’t need a new line and I missed out on the trade in program. My guess is the base model phone will be available around $7XX for Black Friday. At this point I refuse to pay msrp out of principle, but I’m feeling very agitated I don’t have one right now
 

ramram55

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I want a note 9 and can easily afford one (not a humble brag) but I am obsessed with getting a deal. I don’t need a new line and I missed out on the trade in program. My guess is the base model phone will be available around $7XX for Black Friday. At this point I refuse to pay msrp out of principle, but I’m feeling very agitated I don’t have one right now
What is the rush? only 3 months to Black Friday, less than 90 days away. The device could be less than that if the N9 sale number is not good enough.
 

co.ag.2005

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I want a note 9 and can easily afford one (not a humble brag) but I am obsessed with getting a deal. I don’t need a new line and I missed out on the trade in program. My guess is the base model phone will be available around $7XX for Black Friday. At this point I refuse to pay msrp out of principle, but I’m feeling very agitated I don’t have one right now

are you in the USA? if you pre-order from B&H Photo (online) and are outside of the NYC area, you don't pay sales tax. Plus you get a free dex pad dock and dual wireless charger as well as access to the Samsung free headphone / free fortnite bucks promo. So you could technically sell all those "freebies" on eBay or craigslist which will ultimately lower your out of pocket costs... at least one option if you are wanting it sooner than black friday. But pre-orders may end today I think.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...m_n960uzbaxaa_galaxy_note9_sm_n960_128gb.html

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JaySoul

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What is the rush? only 3 months to Black Friday, less than 90 days away. The device could be less than that if the N9 sale number is not good enough.

In the UK, the Note traditionally hasn't really gotten great discounts throughout the year and tends to hold its price really well compared to the S line.

That's why I couldn't pass up the deal I got today. My Pixel 2 XL will only drop in price - I, like others, look at the best deals I can get.
 

tonybarnaby

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are you in the USA? if you pre-order from B&H Photo (online) and are outside of the NYC area, you don't pay sales tax. Plus you get a free dex pad and dual wireless charger as well as access to the Samsung free headphone / free fortnite bucks promo. So you could technically sell all those "freebies" on eBay or craigslist which will ultimately lower your out of pocket costs... at least one option if you are wanting it sooner than black friday. But pre-orders may end today or tomorrow, not sure.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...m_n960uzbaxaa_galaxy_note9_sm_n960_128gb.html

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How does the free headphone promo work? Isn’t it always a disaster trying to figure it out?
 

Cnasty

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Yup, I now have three lines reserved for upgrades, an iPhone X line, Note line, and Galaxy S-series line.

With ATT?

I am considering it though my wife would kill me :p

Also, you just move your sim to each accordingly? No issue?

I would worry I have way too many options and when to use what. Analysis paralysis!!!
 

widgeteer

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I've always said closed ecosystems are the second worst thing for the industry. The first worst thing being, consumers who let themselves be sucked into one. How many times have you heard Apple users say, I would love to try that Galaxy or Note device, but I'm afraid to leave the ecosystem. I need iMessage or I have a Mac and don't think the Galaxy will play as nice with my other Apple devices. So this is why I've always said, the breakthroughs and innovation will come through the hungriest OEMs, which will always be the Android OEMs. Apple have no competition in their own ecosystem, they got their users willfully locked and loaded at their mercy. They don't need to advance their phones year after year to get their users to buy. It's the nature of the closed ecosystem beast. The iPhone will always keep advancing on a "need to" basis. Meaning as soon as the customers start trickling out for compelling Android devices. This guy here kinda gets it....


So building an advanced ecosystem in which users seamlessly switch between phones, laptops, tablets, etc is *not* advancing the industry?

Okay.
 
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Cryates

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So building an advanced ecosystem in which users seamlessly switch between phones, laptops, tablets, etc is *not* advancing the industry?

Okay.
In my opinion, that specific example is not advancing the industry as a whole. It's advancing capabilities inside of a walled garden that the rest of the industry does not live in. That's what Apple wants. They want you inside their garden, but they want you to play by their rules and restrictions. Does it give other companies something to aspire to? Maybe, but maybe other companies don't want to create a walled garden. Really, I'd argue that limiting their devices capabilities (Little-to-no UI customization, Apple Watch only works on iOS, non-iOS devices cannot cast to HomePod, iMessage on iOS only, etc) is actually holding the industry, as a collective whole, back.

I'm not in the same line-of-thought that Apple does not have to innovate, but I do think Apple users are loyal to the point of accepting stagnancy. Apple has been wildly successful at what they are doing, so I'm not faulting them for it, but there's no excuse for some of the limitations they pull other than the simple fact of locking consumers into their ecosystem.

I think you can point to Samsung and see similarities of them pushing you into their walled garden, but giving you the option to leave at any time. This Note 9 has Bixby, Samsung Pay, duplicates of Google's apps with Samsung's flavor, etc, but I'm still free to use Google Assistant, Google Pay and all of Google's apps if I want to.
 
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Cnasty

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Without starting a war, I am looking for real world honest feedback on how you guys/gals do it:

  • I want a Note 9
  • I have an iPhone X and will be getting the X+ when it comes out
  • I enjoy both Android and iOS and used to do this annually...havent done it in about 3 years
  • I want to have the variety of using both devices seamlessly and mixing it up every now and again
Is there anything you have found that makes this super simple to do in owning both phones and when to determine to use which, ensuring all texts and apps and such are seamlessly on both, etc.

I love having the opportunity to choose and use both but looking for real world advice on what process or flow works best for you if you live in both worlds.

Thanks for the feedback here!
 

Klyster

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So building an advanced ecosystem in which users seamlessly switch between phones, laptops, tablets, etc is *not* advancing the industry?

Okay.

It's more insular than the industry.
It's building Apple, which is great for Apple.
What have Apple done that's good for the industry?
Not saying they haven't but just cant think of some ultruistic, in a tech way, example.
 
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