Sounds like a no brainer really, so many negatives.
I'd do the same if I were in the same boat.
At least you had a go.
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Sounds like a no brainer really, so many negatives.
I'd do the same if I were in the same boat.
At least you had a go.
A lot of his negatives had easy work around a though. Definitely comes down to not giving it nearly enough time
I think the people saying this are missing a crucial point: no one should need to work to make their device fit their needs. These things are tools. Either it's a fit or it's not.
When they first used iOS, they adapted to it and not the other way around. They then got conditioned to using the OS for years. Obviously, when they shift to Android, it will look as if Android is not fitting their needs. Of course it won’t. It is is not iOS.
I’m all ears if you have specific suggestions to the issues I listed.
As an example, there is no workaround to Google Assistant calendar integration (using Alexa or Bixby is not an option).
Would something like this require additional time to magically work?
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Or sometimes, it’s not just perception and it actually does not fit your needs or workflows
The original concept of a phone is text, call and data. Unfortunately manufacturer and the third party vendors makes it like a 'magic' machine make it does more and charging high price. It makes consumers expecting more. Hence every year manufacturer just add a few newer features and price keep going up.
Are you serious? It's not "work," it's learning to use a different OS with different applications. Can you imagine someone going from Android to iOS and expecting a back button or file system just as it is on Android? Millions of iOS users have been able to live without it, but imagine an Android user "trying" an iPhone X, and only giving it 2 weeks before deciding to keep it or not. And the final decision being, "I'm used to dragging and dropping files right on my phone with a real file system. I shouldn't have to work around this, it's what I've been accustomed to doing for years. I expect to do it the exact same way on a totally different OS. I shouldn't have to WORK to make this device fit my needs and expectations that have all been shaped from the previous very different OS I've been using for years." Yeah, sure, sounds reasonable, said nobody with half a brain.
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Yes but there are two ways of doing things, either the iOS way or the Android way. People get used to doing things one way or the other and then think that the other way sucks. I'm amazed at how stuck in the mud iOS users are sometimes. It's like in the back of their minds they know that the phone isn't going to work out for them anyway and then they confirm it to themselves. Why bother. Buying these phones and then sending them back unfaulty but unwanted just pushes the price up for the rest of us.
I see alot of responses like this to some of my (and other iOS users trying to convert) posts. I listed specific reasons why I was having trouble adapting to the Note/Android, reasons that time spent using the device will not fix (i.e. Google Assistant not supporting certain calendars and events (all day, etc)). And the only responses I've seen are very similar to yours..."give it time", "don't expect things to be the same", etc. etc. It's like there is blind support without the acknowledgment that the Note and Android do not fit everyone's workflow. That's like me saying to somebody who wants or requires a local file system to adapt to iOS, just change your workflow, etc. etc. It's a ridiculous argument.
I do agree that alot of users are too quick to make a decision or have a preconceived notion that Android/Note or iOS won't work for them when coming from "the other side". But that doesn't apply to everyone and (as it's been said before) users shouldn't have to fight to come up with a workaround for certain things. The bottom line is that, for some users, Android, and in turn the Note, are still missing some features that are present in iOS. And you don't realize what does or doesn't work until you try out the device. 10 days is plenty of time to know if the core experience is going to work for you. In my case I absolutely love the Note, it's miles away better than the iPhone in MOST ways. However, there are some dealbreakers that do not have a solution (i.e. the Google Assistant example, I DO NOT WANT TO USE ALEXA). To use the example again, that would be like me telling someone who wants a local file system to use iTunes to transfer files. It's a workaround right? But one that most people would not consider a solution...
at first glance the right but I think the more I look the left seems like the better pic. I'm terrible at this tho lol
I don’t think you fall in the ‘didn’t give it a chance’ bucket. If those things are a must for you, and you don’t want to convert all of your all day events to timed events (agree that you shouldn’t have to) in order to get the other possible advantages then you are making the right decision. Some folks have been on iPhones since the birth of smartphones and try another device for 2 weeks, get cold feet and bail (which is why you got some of the comments you did) My fear of doing that has kept me on iPhone, but I don’t actually know if it’s the right solution for me. Will decide over the next 12 months.
I used to be in this group of people who basically “know” it’s going back before it even arrives. iOS does a good job of roping you in in a lot of ways. Google is so close to getting their imo and like 90% of the “issues” I’ve had in the past have either been solved or I don’t care anymore (iMessage and FaceTime). As I’ve said before, the Note 9 is an absolutely fantastic device. I still haven’t boxed it up yet because i want to keep it but I’m everyday use the reasons I listed are still dealbreakers.
Don’t feel like you have to apologize for liking the way something works on iOS or the Apple ecosystem. Contrary to what a small handful of members here in this forum will have you believe, Android is not the absolute best at everything in the mobile device space, nor is Apple ‘the worst’ at everything. Android certainly offers some unique features and functionality that one can’t find or replicate with an iPhone or iOS but it is far from perfect. You don’t necessarily choose your phone simply based on the cumulative spec or feature ‘score’.
Use what you like and don’t regret it simply because someone else disagrees. We all have our own preferences.
Yup. I don’t get the whole “you didn’t give it enough time” argument. Some people don’t want to learn a new workflow, and that’s ok. If your used to how something works on iPhone (or Android), and don’t want to learn or get used to how it works on another platform, that ok too. These are very expensive devices and people should use want they want and feel most comfortable with.
Exactly. I hope Samsung sells a ton of Note 9’s. Enough for Apple to take notice and feel they should do something about it. Everybody wins.
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While I agree with this sentiment overall, if you’ve already went out and purchased an Android phone, you should be willing to give it a go, including trade offs.
Yup! Seriously, to me the Note is the only phablet I would consider getting, at least until apple starts offering multi-window, customizable home screens, and a built in Apple Pencil to the plus line.
It has to be worth it to the user though. Some people don’t know what android is like and will purchase it, and once they start using it they know it’s not for them, so why bother trying to “give it a go” if you know it’s not for you?
I honestly don't think anyone is saying you have to give it a worthy try before calling it quits. It's your money, do what you want. The sentiment is more like, "what else did you expect when going to a totally different OS?" With that being said, if you do care to give it a go, 2 weeks just simple not enough time. That's not an unreasonable point. Put it this way, many of us have bad posture that leads to a whole host of health issues. When we're told to fix our posture, and told the proper way to stand and sit, it isn't the most comfortable position. Not for a while. Only after a considerable amount of time with repetition does it get easier. But many give up and go back to what's comfortable within only a short while. They'll tell people they tried, when we all know they really didn't give it the proper time to become familiar and comfortable with the new position. So it really comes down to, "do you really care to take the time?" If not, then don't expect to keep the new device. Again, you're free to do what you want, over and over, but can you honestly say you expect a different outcome?
Samsung won't sell a load of note 9 though. There's a reason why they are offering £200 off the phone and other promotions. They are trying to do what they can to get people to buy them.
Don't get me wrong it's a beast and a great phone but many will buy the iPhone Xs plus over the note line.
Sure. Doesn’t change the sentiment that I hope other manufacturers are successful to drive innovation in an overall stagnant market.
Hopefully, the only way to develop tech is for these companies to push each other. Obviously I have all apple devices but I'm a fan of android. My girlfriend has an S8 and we also have an S8 plus for our daughter as it was my dads old phone. I was told I can't have two phones so we gave it her lol
My dad has the note 9 and really enjoys it. I don't know how Samsung can get closer to apple with sales. I'm not sure it will ever happen not with the prices set as they are. If people are going to spend top money they are more likely to get iphones than they are android devices.
Samsung will never match Apple in sales. Too many options on the android side of things. I think they are likely tops in sales for the ‘high end’ android market.
I don’t have an answer to your calendar issue because I’ve never used both but you also named the music issue which was super simple, type in Apple Music on google play, done, so the fact that you missed that solution seems to me that you may have found other easy ones as well
At the end of the day it’s your choice but I say this from experience, I made the same mistake, pre ordered a note 8, always iPhone guy and took it back far too soon and went back to iPhone. Now my wife has a note 8 and I realized I didn’t give it a long enough chance to get used to it all and regret it