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rockitdog

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I am confused. This phone has great specs but it's being called a mid-range phone. Why? It's right there with Google's 2020 flagship device and even beats it in terms or processor and refresh rate. What makes this mid-range?
 
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Awesomesince86

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I am confused. This phone has great specs but it's being called a mid-range phone. Why? It's right there with Google's 2020 flagship device and even beats it in terms or processor and refresh rate. What makes this mid-range?

Because Googles 2020 phone (Pixel 5) isnt a flagship phone either. Compare the FE with the S20 or Note line and you'll see why its a midrange device. Compared with the S20 the FE has lower resolution screen, lower PPI, worse camera, worse build (glass/metal vs plastic), less RAM.

The FE is a very good phone and exceptional for the price. But compared to other flagship android phones (really only Samsung makes these anymore) it's clearly inferior.
 

rockitdog

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Because Googles 2020 phone (Pixel 5) isnt a flagship phone either. Compare the FE with the S20 or Note line and you'll see why its a midrange device. Compared with the S20 the FE has lower resolution screen, lower PPI, worse camera, worse build (glass/metal vs plastic), less RAM.

The FE is a very good phone and exceptional for the price. But compared to other flagship android phones (really only Samsung makes these anymore) it's clearly inferior.
But Pixel is the standard for Android. It is the embodiment of everything that Google wants Android to be therefore it should be considered a flagship. It is for Google, maybe not for Samsung or LG, etc.
 

The Game 161

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But Pixel is the standard for Android. It is the embodiment of everything that Google wants Android to be therefore it should be considered a flagship. It is for Google, maybe not for Samsung or LG, etc.
Could argue only thing that's flagship is the camera
 

Awesomesince86

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But Pixel is the standard for Android. It is the embodiment of everything that Google wants Android to be therefore it should be considered a flagship. It is for Google, maybe not for Samsung or LG, etc.

I guess it depends on how you define flagship. If you mean the best that company has to offer then sure. If were using the common terms as in premium, top-of-the-line device then no.
 
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ian87w

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I am confused. This phone has great specs but it's being called a mid-range phone. Why? It's right there with Google's 2020 flagship device and even beats it in terms or processor and refresh rate. What makes this mid-range?
It could be from the price point perspective. So Anything $1k and above are considered flagship territories, while anything around $500-800 are considered mid-range territories.

Regardless, the S20 FE, especially the snapdragon flavor, offers flagship grade hardware (it does have flagship SD865, IP68, 120Hz refresh rate, etc, all things a flagship phone would have) at incredible price point.
 

Vegastouch

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It could be from the price point perspective. So Anything $1k and above are considered flagship territories, while anything around $500-800 are considered mid-range territories.

Regardless, the S20 FE, especially the snapdragon flavor, offers flagship grade hardware (it does have flagship SD865, IP68, 120Hz refresh rate, etc, all things a flagship phone would have) at incredible price point.
I'd say no. It's from the specs and features. Flagships get the latest or best available chips with all the features and midrange get below that and only some of the features like no wireless charging ,waterproof and get plastic backs for builds..
My GS9 was $750 and a flagship then while they had bigger versions of it.

The GS20 FE has decent specs and some good features but doesn't have the top screen that the GS20 has and has a plastic back.....among other differences.
 

cuzo

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Is the screen that far off from the orginal S20 series? I can get a s20 on facebook for cheap now.
 

Vegastouch

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It sounds like a good phone. Ha ing a plastic back doesn't bother me at all, I'd prefer not to have a glass back,....though I've never broke one since I use cases. The only thing I don't like about it is it is 6.5". However, it is a bit smaller than the A71 which is a good thing.
 
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ILowry82

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Sep 26, 2014
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I just switched back to android after several years and got the S20 FE. I have a few questions. First, my battery life is horrible. Could it be the 5G signal? I’m getting right around 2-3 hours of SOT. Literally if I pick my phone up in the morning and check my notifications over night the battery drops to 97% after using it for literally 5 min. My iPhone would stay on 100% for 30-40 min after starting my day.
Second, If I charge the phone horizontally, the wireless charging goes on and off. It’s not the charger because my wife’s phone charges no problem no matter which way I place it. I started the phone as new. Do I need to do a factory reset? Could something have gone wrong during the set up?
 

Bkdodger

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It sounds like a good phone. Ha ing a plastic back doesn't bother me at all, I'd prefer not to have a glass back,....though I've never broke one since I use cases. The only thing I don't like about it is it is 6.5". However, it is a bit smaller than the A71 which is a good thing.
plastic is really good.. it feels great in hand plus we throwing a case on it...
I just switched back to android after several years and got the S20 FE. I have a few questions. First, my battery life is horrible. Could it be the 5G signal? I’m getting right around 2-3 hours of SOT. Literally if I pick my phone up in the morning and check my notifications over night the battery drops to 97% after using it for literally 5 min. My iPhone would stay on 100% for 30-40 min after starting my day.
Second, If I charge the phone horizontally, the wireless charging goes on and off. It’s not the charger because my wife’s phone charges no problem no matter which way I place it. I started the phone as new. Do I need to do a factory reset? Could something have gone wrong during the set up?
definitely something is off.. are you able to check mobile setting if you can toggle off 5G... I don't have my sim in yet to test...
 

ILowry82

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Sep 26, 2014
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plastic is really good.. it feels great in hand plus we throwing a case on it... definitely something is off.. are you able to check mobile setting if you can toggle off 5G... I don't have my sim in yet to test...
I just had a thought, it can’t be the 5G because I was using a Oneplus 8 with no battery issues
 

mjschabow

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Dec 25, 2013
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I just switched back to android after several years and got the S20 FE. I have a few questions. First, my battery life is horrible. Could it be the 5G signal? I’m getting right around 2-3 hours of SOT. Literally if I pick my phone up in the morning and check my notifications over night the battery drops to 97% after using it for literally 5 min. My iPhone would stay on 100% for 30-40 min after starting my day.
Second, If I charge the phone horizontally, the wireless charging goes on and off. It’s not the charger because my wife’s phone charges no problem no matter which way I place it. I started the phone as new. Do I need to do a factory reset? Could something have gone wrong during the set up?

if you just got it, sometimes battery needs a day or two to chill out.
 
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ILowry82

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Sep 26, 2014
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if you just got it, sometimes battery needs a day or two to chill out.
It’s been almost a week. However I think I found the problem. I had an app called Andropods. It gives apple like functionality to AirPods when paired to android. That app appears to have been draining the battery. I deleted it and it’s been pretty normal since. I google searched and cant find anyone else with that problem using Andropod, must just be me.
 

ILowry82

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Sep 26, 2014
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I did notice another issue that maybe someone can shed some light on. When I wirelessly charge my s20 FE, sometimes the charge quits, then restarts, quits then restarts, several times. I checked the charger using my wife’s iphone and using her phone it’s a steady charge.
 

noobinator

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Jun 19, 2009
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I received mine about 54 hours ago. I've not used my sim in it so I'm on WiFi only but the battery life is wild so far. I'm at 4 hours SoT since I got it Monday and like 50 hours of standby time and my battery is at 47%.

I'm sure on cellular it will be much worse but the 4500 MaH goes a long way on just WiFi.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
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I'd say no. It's from the specs and features. Flagships get the latest or best available chips with all the features and midrange get below that and only some of the features like no wireless charging ,waterproof and get plastic backs for builds..
My GS9 was $750 and a flagship then while they had bigger versions of it.

The GS20 FE has decent specs and some good features but doesn't have the top screen that the GS20 has and has a plastic back.....among other differences.
The 20 FE has the same SD865, and even flagship features like 120Hz and IP68. I still consider it as a flagship.

As for the screen, to get 120Hz, the S20 Ultra has to resort to 1080p res anyway, so the 1080p panel on the FE is not a minus imo.
 
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Sensamic

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Saw yesterday the FE for the first time at a store and must say I hated it. Just because of the design.

Felt so weird. Too boxy and thick. More thick than my A71. Screen felt compressed or small also in comparison to my A71. Amazing how 0.2 inches made such a difference. But the 6.5 inch screen of the FE felt smaller, like a 6.1 screen. Weird.

Then the top bezel is even bigger than on my A71. Can't understand why.

Too thick also, as I previously said, but that may be due to bigger battery in smaller form factor. I love how thin and light my A71 is.

Camera samples on reviews look great on the other hand. But overall, feeling in hand was terrible.
 

nospleen

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Dec 8, 2002
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Does anyone know how to make the lock screen controls look more like a Pixel? When I click the power button, you get this view and I really want the view to be the screen where you can skip forward during podcasts.

If you click on it and you have no other notifications, it just makes it bigger and you don't have the skip forward or backwards options. If you have more than one notifications and click power, notifications, then it looks like a Pixel and you have the options.

Any ideas?
 

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Aneres11

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Does anyone know how to make the lock screen controls look more like a Pixel? When I click the power button, you get this view and I really want the view to be the screen where you can skip forward during podcasts.

If you click on it and you have no other notifications, it just makes it bigger and you don't have the skip forward or backwards options. If you have more than one notifications and click power, notifications, then it looks like a Pixel and you have the options.

Any ideas?

Such a cute dog. And I too would love to know this for my Fold 2 lock screen. :)
 
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nospleen

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Such a cute dog. And I too would love to know this for my Fold 2 lock screen. :)

Well I found a setting that makes the lock screen look more like a Pixel. It still doesn't show the podcast playing like I want. Not sure if you have seen this. But, you can change it to show details instead of just icons.

I attached the location and what it looks like on the lock screen.
 

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