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The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
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Even the cat is freaked out with this 10x zoom
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raqball

macrumors 68020
Sep 11, 2016
2,323
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My S21 has been rock solid for me.. No issues to speak of and it's been a great phone.. I took advantage of their trade-in back when they were offering $700 for the S20. I basically upgraded from the S20 to the S21 for $100 so I can't complain at all....

Great phone, very happy with it.
 
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Awesomesince86

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Sep 18, 2016
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I'm curious as to how much Samsung will offer for the S21 Ultra trade in towards a Fold 3. If they offer $1000, I might be tempted.
 

Ludatyk

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May 27, 2012
5,964
5,131
Texas
I'm curious as to how much Samsung will offer for the S21 Ultra trade in towards a Fold 3. If they offer $1000, I might be tempted.
Not sure why you would be tempted. I think users who gravitated toward the S21U over the Fold were largely due to the camera and the same might apply to the Fold 3.

Rumors suggest that the Fold 3 camera tech isn’t as great compared to the S21U.
 

Awesomesince86

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Sep 18, 2016
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Not sure why you would be tempted. I think users who gravitated toward the S21U over the Fold were largely due to the camera and the same might apply to the Fold 3.

Rumors suggest that the Fold 3 camera tech isn’t as great compared to the S21U.

Camera isnt as important to me. Its important, but not top priority.
 

Tulani

macrumors 68000
Dec 6, 2012
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Camera isnt as important to me. Its important, but not top priority.

I fall in the same group as you.

Camera on a phone is not a priority at all. I tend to consider all other build esthetics.

Actually the smaller, flatter and insignificant that camera bump is, the better for me.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
8,704
12,638
Indonesia
S21 users.
I just bought a Sandisk dual drive, with USB Type-A on one end and USB Type C on the other end. When I plug the USB-C end to my S21, nothing happens. The S21 just doesn't recognize it. I have gone to developer settings, tried various USB transfer modes, nothing.

I plug the Sandisk to my Poco X3 and it's recognized just fine, right away.

Does anybody have any idea? I have even tried safe mode on my S21, and still nothing. The S21 itself charges and detected by my PC just fine, so I assume the USB-C port is fine.
 

Tulani

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Dec 6, 2012
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S21 users.
I just bought a Sandisk dual drive, with USB Type-A on one end and USB Type C on the other end. When I plug the USB-C end to my S21, nothing happens. The S21 just doesn't recognize it. I have gone to developer settings, tried various USB transfer modes, nothing.

I plug the Sandisk to my Poco X3 and it's recognized just fine, right away.

Does anybody have any idea? I have even tried safe mode on my S21, and still nothing. The S21 itself charges and detected by my PC just fine, so I assume the USB-C port is fine.
 

MarkX

macrumors 65816
Sep 10, 2015
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S21 users.
I just bought a Sandisk dual drive, with USB Type-A on one end and USB Type C on the other end. When I plug the USB-C end to my S21, nothing happens. The S21 just doesn't recognize it. I have gone to developer settings, tried various USB transfer modes, nothing.

I plug the Sandisk to my Poco X3 and it's recognized just fine, right away.

Does anybody have any idea? I have even tried safe mode on my S21, and still nothing. The S21 itself charges and detected by my PC just fine, so I assume the USB-C port is fine.
Isn't the drive showing if you go in to "My Files"?
 

Ludatyk

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May 27, 2012
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Oh, so the S21 requires the OTG adapter to enable OTG function? That's a bit weird... The reason I bought the Sandisk dual drive is due to the USB-C plug so I thought I could plug it in directly on the S21. :(
Haven't seen the vid, but S21 has OTG support... I have a SanDisk dual drive, works for my Fold.

Not entirely sure why it's not working... normally when I plug in my drive, I go into My Files app and it shows up immediately.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
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Indonesia
Haven't seen the vid, but S21 has OTG support... I have a SanDisk dual drive, works for my Fold.

Not entirely sure why it's not working... normally when I plug in my drive, I go into My Files app and it shows up immediately.
That's what I was expecting as well, but it doesn't work on my S21. That's why I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
8,704
12,638
Indonesia
Haven't seen the vid, but S21 has OTG support... I have a SanDisk dual drive, works for my Fold.

Not entirely sure why it's not working... normally when I plug in my drive, I go into My Files app and it shows up immediately.
Is your Fold running OneUI 3.1 Android 11? Trying to see if it's Android 11 issue.
 

Ludatyk

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May 27, 2012
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Is your Fold running OneUI 3.1 Android 11? Trying to see if it's Android 11 issue.
Yes, running OneUI 3.1 Android 11. What is your My Files version? It recently received an update.

And have you looked into different File Managers? But it is odd that it works when you plug it into a different Android phone.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
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Indonesia
Yes, running OneUI 3.1 Android 11. What is your My Files version? It recently received an update.

And have you looked into different File Managers? But it is odd that it works when you plug it into a different Android phone.
The issue is that the Sandisk is not even detected, so any File managers, including Sandisk's own app, don't see it.

I have been Googling the issue for the past few days, and there are anecdotal comments of similar issue from people with devices ranging from the S9 to Note 10, and none of them had any meaningful resolution. There is a somewhat pattern that people who had the issue were those who just upgraded OneUI (eg. from OneUI 2 to 3). But the S21 has not had a major Android upgrade yet...

The USB-C port on my S21 functions perfectly fine for audio and charging, so I don't think it's the port. And the flash drive works perfectly on my Poco X3 and my laptop, so it's not the drive. I tried reformatting it using my PC and the Poco, still the same. One thing left that I have not tried is to use a USB-C OTG adapter since I don't have that. If the S21 requires the OTG adapter, it would defeat the purpose of getting the dual drive with the USB-C plug. :(
 

Tulani

macrumors 68000
Dec 6, 2012
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The issue is that the Sandisk is not even detected, so any File managers, including Sandisk's own app, don't see it.

I have been Googling the issue for the past few days, and there are anecdotal comments of similar issue from people with devices ranging from the S9 to Note 10, and none of them had any meaningful resolution. There is a somewhat pattern that people who had the issue were those who just upgraded OneUI (eg. from OneUI 2 to 3). But the S21 has not had a major Android upgrade yet...

The USB-C port on my S21 functions perfectly fine for audio and charging, so I don't think it's the port. And the flash drive works perfectly on my Poco X3 and my laptop, so it's not the drive. I tried reformatting it using my PC and the Poco, still the same. One thing left that I have not tried is to use a USB-C OTG adapter since I don't have that. If the S21 requires the OTG adapter, it would defeat the purpose of getting the dual drive with the USB-C plug. :(
i wouldn't get too worked up by it.
try a different brand flashdrive whenever you get it
these things happen even with ordinary computers where a drive can be recognized on one but not the other for various reasons
 

Ludatyk

macrumors 603
May 27, 2012
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i wouldn't get too worked up by it.
try a different brand flashdrive whenever you get it
these things happen even with ordinary computers where a drive can be recognized on one but not the other for various reasons
Yeah, a different brand could work. But I don't see how the drive could not be recognized... unless there's a label that specifies that this drive only works with such and such. Then I'll be puzzled just as much as @ian87w
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
8,704
12,638
Indonesia
Yeah, a different brand could work. But I don't see how the drive could not be recognized... unless there's a label that specifies that this drive only works with such and such. Then I'll be puzzled just as much as @ian87w
To update my USB OTG issue, I tried an HP USB-C dongle that came from an HP laptop. It has USB-A, USB-C, and HDMI ports on it. After plugging the dongle to my S21, and then plug the Sandisk dual drive to either the USB-A or USB-C ports, it is detected properly by my S21. So basically the S21 requires an adapter/dongle to force itself to power up the connected devices. Not sure if this is model specific, but mine is the Exynos version.

I'm guessing the Fold USB-C port might be configured a bit differently in terms of power delivery, or maybe it's a snapdragon SoC capability vs Exynos.
 

Tulani

macrumors 68000
Dec 6, 2012
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851
To update my USB OTG issue, I tried an HP USB-C dongle that came from an HP laptop. It has USB-A, USB-C, and HDMI ports on it. After plugging the dongle to my S21, and then plug the Sandisk dual drive to either the USB-A or USB-C ports, it is detected properly by my S21. So basically the S21 requires an adapter/dongle to force itself to power up the connected devices. Not sure if this is model specific, but mine is the Exynos version.

I'm guessing the Fold USB-C port might be configured a bit differently in terms of power delivery, or maybe it's a snapdragon SoC capability vs Exynos.

I have a standard S21 and it works directly with my “lesser known brand” uGreen 32G USB C/USB A flash drive
 
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ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
8,704
12,638
Indonesia
I have a standard S21 and it works directly with my “lesser known brand” Ugreen 32G USB C/USB A flash drive
It could be that for some reason, my SanDisk cannot negotiate power appropriately with my S21. The S21 put out notification about USB charging when the USB dongle is connected.
 

krspkbl

macrumors 68020
Jul 20, 2012
2,449
5,883
i haven't owned a Samsung since 2017. i remember having to install a custom launcher and another app to get rid of bloat. how is the software on the S21? i've read they updated it quite a bit. i've always been impressed by Samsung hardware but the software disappointed. i'd love to give Samsung another shot.
 
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