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HouseLannister

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Got my S23 today. Still tweaking all my settings. The one thing that irks me is not a Samsung issue, but must have started with Material You on Android 12. Why is dark mode on Google Calendar so ugly? I can barely read it. It looks better on iOS, which matches what it looked like on my old Pixel 5a (which was Android 10 or 11).

S23 left, iPhone 13 mini right

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aggie99

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Sep 23, 2016
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1. S23U night mode
2. iPhone 14 PM night mode
3. Pixel 7 Pro night sight
4. S23U without night mode for reference

Which looks better to y'all? I'm conflicted. I like the amount of light the S23U brings in but it adds a yellowish hue to the wood and granite that's not there.

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Ludatyk

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May 27, 2012
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My man...you carry around an ipad pro and ZF4 right? 😂 See I just can't see lugging my ipad around everywhere.

I have to carry two phones. My work line rings non stop. If I didn't have a separate line/device to filter all the work calls and texts to I'd have to shut down my only means of communication once I get home. I have a do not disturb schedule set on my ZF4 for 6pm to 5am so I can get some quiet time. Currently running the S23U on the personal. It's not too inconvenient carrying those two around other than the thought of my beloved Pixel 7 Pro sitting in my nightstand drawer at home 😬
Lol, Touché.

I could use the iPhone along with a ZF4, but from my perspective the cellular iPad provides Apple ecosystem on-the-go along with a (bigger display) tablet experience mixed in as a laptop replacement. Tbf, if the iPad never existed... I’ll end up having an iPhone with that Tab S8 Ultra.

And I’ll carry an iPhone with Tab S8 Ultra around lol. But in my defense, I‘m not carrying the iPad around… I use backpack (daypack).
 
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Bkdodger

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5105973

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Hey everyone, congratulations on all new deliveries!

Here's my last hurrah with my S23 Ultra. I was vacuuming the landing of my stairs when I saw this magnificent bird land. Miraculously he or she stayed put while I ran all the way to my bedroom for my phone. 30x zoom. I wish I'd tried this with my S22 Ultra also but I was rushing.

I'm posting this from my S23 Ultra. The pain shooting through my eyes is rather shockingly awful. So I know I can't keep this phone. And that's fine. But hey, what a last blast!

It's a long story and I'm never good at explaining it, but basically I see these birds when I'm upset and they cheer me up. I almost never see them otherwise.

Over time, because of when I would see them when I was facing challenges or hardships or a sad time, and how comfort would soon follow, sighting one of these birds came to encourage me to believe I'd get through whatever was bothering me and I'd find happier times again. Extra happy points if their backside was facing me (because of my sense of humor)

So because of the meaning of these bird sightings to me, it really is a nice way to bring closure to my time with this phone and I am so excited to have this photo!

Edited to mention I took this through a very dirty window. Sigh. Spring cleaning is going to be a bear this year.
 

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keithop

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Jul 22, 2002
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1. S23U night mode
2. iPhone 14 PM night mode
3. Pixel 7 Pro night sight
4. S23U without night mode for reference

Which looks better to y'all? I'm conflicted. I like the amount of light the S23U brings in but it adds a yellowish hue to the wood and granite that's not there.

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Without seeing the EXIF data it's harder to say but my feeling is that the samsung has more detail but is using a slower shutter speed thus getting more of the ambient light in and if that light is a tungsten light, that'll be more yellow than say a white led. (but obviously I dont know what lighting there actually is)

...but yeah, however you look at it, white balance doesn't look as good on the s23 where detail looks better.
 

sunking101

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Sep 19, 2013
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Got my S23 today. Still tweaking all my settings. The one thing that irks me is not a Samsung issue, but must have started with Material You on Android 12. Why is dark mode on Google Calendar so ugly? I can barely read it. It looks better on iOS, which matches what it looked like on my old Pixel 5a (which was Android 10 or 11).

S23 left, iPhone 13 mini right

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I've never understood the love for dark mode anyway. Meh.
 

aggie99

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Sep 23, 2016
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Dallas, TX
Without seeing the EXIF data it's harder to say but my feeling is that the samsung has more detail but is using a slower shutter speed thus getting more of the ambient light in and if that light is a tungsten light, that'll be more yellow than say a white led. (but obviously I dont know what lighting there actually is)

...but yeah, however you look at it, white balance doesn't look as good on the s23 where detail looks better.
S23U 1/2 second ISO 3200
14PM 1/2 second ISO 8000
P7P 1/3 second ISO 8436

The light in the background is from soft white led bulbs.
 
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keithop

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Jul 22, 2002
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S23U 1/2 second ISO 3200
14PM 1/2 second ISO 8000
P7P 1/3 second ISO 8436

The light in the background is from soft white led bulbs.

very interesting that the s23 and 14pm both chose the same shutter speed but the 14pm chose a much higher iso... does the data give you the aperture? f2.7 or whatever?

Just looks like the s23u chose a warmer white balance which was less accurate to real life than the iphone which is a shame really (although by no means unusual)

I SEEM to remember that there are "warm white leds which are made up of blue+yellow phosphor" cool white being more blue, warm white being more yellow... perhaps that's why samsung has got it a bit wrong. But having said that, if the iphone nailed it, no reason samsung shouldnt
 
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aggie99

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Sep 23, 2016
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you should be able to see the metadata on the right side of your screen if you click on the pics.

S23U f/1.7
14PM f/1.79
P7P f/1.85

I agree with you, they went a tad warm on the white balance. Less accurate but I think more detail and aesthetically pleasing photo. Gonna have to test out night mode this evening while on the patio drinking some of the subject in the previous pictures 🍻
 

keithop

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Jul 22, 2002
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you should be able to see the metadata on the right side of your screen if you click on the pics.

yeah sorry youre right, I didn't notice that

S23U f/1.7
14PM f/1.79
P7P f/1.85

ok so 1.7 v 1.8 basically

I agree with you, they went a tad warm on the white balance. Less accurate but I think more detail and aesthetically pleasing photo. Gonna have to test out night mode this evening while on the patio drinking some of the subject in the previous pictures 🍻

very jealous :) wish I was there for you know, research purposes of course !
 
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three

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It's been a few days since I've had my S23 Ultra, I've been getting more comfortable and settling it. It's overwhelming but I'm really liking a lot of it. Here's my homescreen. Default One UI launcher with the Delta icon pack and San Francisco Pro as the system font! Love this!
 

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h.gilbert

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Nov 17, 2022
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1. S23U night mode
2. iPhone 14 PM night mode
3. Pixel 7 Pro night sight
4. S23U without night mode for reference

Which looks better to y'all? I'm conflicted. I like the amount of light the S23U brings in but it adds a yellowish hue to the wood and granite that's not there.

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Pixel, then iPhone, the S23U

The S23U is the brightest by far. It could've toned it down a bit and it would've probably looked quite good, but as it stands it's just all a bit too 'amplified'.
 

5105973

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FYI I just got an email thanking me for registering my S23 Ultra (as far as I know, I did no such thing!) and there’s a long page of options one of which is to sign up for Samsung Care. That’s new to me. It used to be the case that you had to sign up during purchase. It’s nice they offer it later, now.
 

three

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FYI I just got an email thanking me for registering my S23 Ultra (as far as I know, I did no such thing!) and there’s a long page of options one of which is to sign up for Samsung Care. That’s new to me. It used to be the case that you had to sign up during purchase. It’s nice they offer it later, now.
I got two separate ones for my S23 Ultra and the Watch 5!
 
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SteveJUAE

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very interesting that the s23 and 14pm both chose the same shutter speed but the 14pm chose a much higher iso... does the data give you the aperture? f2.7 or whatever?

Just looks like the s23u chose a warmer white balance which was less accurate to real life than the iphone which is a shame really (although by no means unusual)

I SEEM to remember that there are "warm white leds which are made up of blue+yellow phosphor" cool white being more blue, warm white being more yellow... perhaps that's why samsung has got it a bit wrong. But having said that, if the iphone nailed it, no reason samsung shouldnt
I am not sure why you think the IP14 is reflecting IRL. If the bulbs are warm/soft white say 3200k then the IP14 is changing the IRL colour to a cooler blue white which is not accurate. You may prefer it :) but its not matching what the eye see's :)

I noticed this with my own IP14 it changed the whole tone/mood of the room by getting the colour wrong and shifting warmer tones to more cool/blue
 

keithop

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Jul 22, 2002
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I am not sure why you think the IP14 is reflecting IRL. If the bulbs are warm/soft white say 3200k then the IP14 is changing the IRL colour to a cooler blue white which is not accurate. You may prefer it :) but its not matching what the eye see's :)

but no you're misrepresenting my opinion :) @aggie99 who took the photo said that the IRL white balance was more as the IP14 saw and that the S23u had a more yellow tint. I wasn't there so I'm going with what the photographer said was IRL.

I noticed this with my own IP14 it changed the whole tone/mood of the room by getting the colour wrong and shifting warmer tones to more cool/blue

but you say "wrong" but in this case the person who was there seems to be saying that the IP14 was right and the S23u was wrong?

I mean I've no bias towards one or the other! I'm just enjoying the comparisons

Again I come to this from the world of film and then DSLRs. There's a nikon look, a canon look, a sony look.... much of which is around saturation. Sony most saturated, canon middle, nikon cooler.... but generally nowadays they get the white balance correct unless it's a particularly difficult scene in which case I go old school, hold up a neutral white card and set white balance based on that.

So you could be right that the iPhone WB is ALWAYS cooler and the S23u is ALWAYS warmer..... but in the photos we're talking about, unless I've misread (which is entirely possible!) Aggie99 is saying that the iphone got the WB right and the S23U wrong although more detail was present.
 
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