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Truefan31

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and...i have answered it soooo many times for you, Because I want to that is why! I have had every iphone Apple has made. I love my 6s+ and i use it weekly and sometimes daily. I have posted this sooo many times now it is beyond redundant. So now answer my questions
You have professed to have a strong dislike for Samsung phones and Android as a whole. I don't think you own any current gen Android phones. So why are you here in the Alt section so much? Why do you have the need to come here and always say something negative in general tone about Android in all the threads here?

I've no issue answering anyone's questions. I don't have a strong dislike of most anything, let alone a mobile platform. I have preferences like most people. Right now I have an iPhone. I'm intrigued by the G5 and the op3. I think the s7 is a nice phone. If I posted in forums and started threads about how much better one was over the other constantly I wouldn't be then still using the seemingly weaker one then. So it's curious to me why this seems to be your case. So you're saying I actually have to own and keep a current android phone to be able to read and post in the alt section?

You say because you want to. Ok. What about your 6s plus do you like? No I haven't read about all the things you love about your 6s plus. I've read that you own both the Galaxy and iPhone and that it's the best of both worlds but seemingly all your posts focus on how much better the Galaxy is than the iPhone. You seem to really like tw, to the point over stock android, and you think the hardware is better. That's great. So I wonder what you like in the iPhone now that the Galaxy doesn't do that you keep using it, for days or weeks at a time like you say.
 

Fanaticalism

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Don't have access to a 6P, but on my One M8 GPE running android 6.0 it does the same thing.
I've been messing around with it and I can't seem to replicate your issue. This is what I've done and maybe you can give me an idea if reactions are different for you.

Open yt, go to subs and scroll to a specific spot and click on a video. Swipe away, no change in list.

Click on video and click on numerous links with video, swipe away and no change.

Do the same, but use back button, still no change.

Swipe to recommendations, exit app and use other apps. Go back to yt and swipe back to subs because it reopens where I left off and still no change.

Now, if I wait too long or do too much and the phone needs to completely reload the app, then it will scroll to top even though it reopens in subs where I left off.
 

Fernandez21

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I've been messing around with it and I can't seem to replicate your issue. This is what I've done and maybe you can give me an idea if reactions are different for you.

Open yt, go to subs and scroll to a specific spot and click on a video. Swipe away, no change in list.

Click on video and click on numerous links with video, swipe away and no change.

Do the same, but use back button, still no change.

Swipe to recommendations, exit app and use other apps. Go back to yt and swipe back to subs because it reopens where I left off and still no change.

Now, if I wait too long or do too much and the phone needs to completely reload the app, then it will scroll to top even though it reopens in subs where I left off.
Sometimes it does it and sometimes doesn't. Mostly I'll scroll down watch a video and when I'm done with the video I'll swipe down the video and the sub list will be back at the top and reload. Other times I'll watch a video, leave the app and come back, and the video I was watching is still there right where I left off, but if I swipe down again to go back to the list it's at the top again. But it doesn't seem to do it every single time, but happens quite a bit. On my iPhone, it almost always stays where I left it, sometimes even after a couple of hours I'll come back to it and it's right where I was on list.
 

Fanaticalism

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Sometimes it does it and sometimes doesn't. Mostly I'll scroll down watch a video and when I'm done with the video I'll swipe down the video and the sub list will be back at the top and reload. Other times I'll watch a video, leave the app and come back, and the video I was watching is still there right where I left off, but if I swipe down again to go back to the list it's at the top again. But it doesn't seem to do it every single time, but happens quite a bit. On my iPhone, it almost always stays where I left it, sometimes even after a couple of hours I'll come back to it and it's right where I was on list.
I can't say I've had that issue with an consistency if I'm within the app.
 
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MRU

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jamezr

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Yeah it was and really wicked cold north westerly breeze on the beach today ...
it sure looks cold. One thing that is good about overcast days. They sure make for good lighting for taking pictures. I noticed this when I was on vacation in southern california. It was overcast and cloudy then too. Didn't have to worry about sun glare.
 
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MRU

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it sure looks cold. One thing that is good about overcast days. They sure make for good lighting for taking pictures. I noticed this when I was on vacation in southern california. It was overcast and cloudy then too. Didn't have to worry about sun glare.
It could be the height of summer here and you won't worry about sun glare lol :)

I'm off to walk the Camino de Santiago in a couple weeks time starting in Southern France, down to Santiago in Spain. Haven't decided which phone or phones to take, but I'll post some shots along the route assuming I have Internet connection in the evenings. Should get some great snaps.
 

jamezr

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It could be the height of summer here and you won't worry about sun glare lol :)

I'm off to walk the Camino de Santiago in a couple weeks time starting in Southern France, down to Santiago in Spain. Haven't decided which phone or phones to take, but I'll post some shots along the route assuming I have Internet connection in the evenings. Should get some great snaps.
Wow nice! Look forward to seeing some great pics as usual from you MRU!
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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I have been trying to replicate these saturation claims by some reviewers and users. Yes on auto mode, saturation does exist, but not nearly as exaggerated as what I've been seeing on some video reviews. I tried under the best natural and room lighting, but saturation always comes out to a minimal compared to some of these video reviews and claims.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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I like the video but I found myself picking what I felt was the best and disagreeing with theirs. The Nexus has a very good camera and based on that video I would say the best of the three. The iPhone seems to have more realistic tones in outdoor use but struggles more in low light, or perhaps it's more representative of what is there but not the best for a photograph? The Samsung S7 in a few of those examples over exposed the image and it was too obvious to me.

This all aside, you can manually adjust the levels afterwards on all three phones but off the bat I was impressed with the Nexus here. It's worth noting that all three also appear to have very good cameras considering they are mobile phones. There isn't an awful lot in it IMO.
 

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I have been trying to replicate these saturation claims by some reviewers and users. Yes on auto mode, saturation does exist, but not nearly as exaggerated as what I've been seeing on some video reviews. I tried under the best natural and room lighting, but saturation always comes out to a minimal compared to some of these video reviews and claims.

There's a reason why DxO ranks it the best. I'll go with real pros who specifically are in the business of evaluating imaging. Just like Displaymate reviewing displays.
 
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Surf Donkey

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There's a reason why DxO ranks it the best. I'll go with real pros who specifically are in the business of evaluating imaging. Just like Displaymate reviewing displays.

Yes in the business because they are paid to do so by the corporations creating the devices. I would trust independent reviewers over this model honestly (not saying these youtube bloggers are a good source though). Any company that ranks the z5 a top camera, either has a faulty testing process or financial motives.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...cide-whose-smartphone-camera-is-best-opinion/
 

Sevanw

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Yes in the business because they are paid to do so by the corporations creating the devices. I would trust independent reviewers over this model honestly (not saying these youtube bloggers are a good source though). Any company that ranks the z5 a top camera, either has a faulty testing process or financial motives.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...cide-whose-smartphone-camera-is-best-opinion/

Oh my, me thinks one review site feels threatened by another review site. Let's get another thing in the open. Many people think an Android site automatically means a win for Samsung. These are not Samsung sites, these are ANDROID sites. In fact, Android websites seem to spew more negativity cloaked in objectiveness towards Samsung than any other OEM. They constantly go on about stock Android. Samsung starts killing in camera rankings, and now it's time to question the reviewers at DxO? Lol, suuuuuuure.

I'm guessing Displaymate is next to be questioned. Run for the hills Dr. Raymond Soneira!
 
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Surf Donkey

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Oh my, me thinks one review site feels threatened by another review site. Let's get another thing in the open. Many people think an Android site automatically means a win for Samsung. These are not Samsung sites, these are ANDROID sites. In fact, Android websites seem to spew more negativity cloaked in objectiveness towards Samsung than any other OEM. They constantly go on about stock Android. Samsung starts killing in camera rankings, and now it's time to question the reviewers at DxO? Lol, suuuuuuure.

I'm guessing Displaymate is next to be questioned. Run for the hills Dr. Raymond Soneira!

Uh, I linked an article. Are you saying they are not paid to run tests? Many Android users have questioned DxO for a while now. And yes, I would question Displaymate as well.
 

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Uh, I linked an article. Are you saying they are not paid to run tests? Many Android users have questioned DxO for a while now. And yes, I would question Displaymate as well.

Well there ya go! Let's question them all, I say! In fact, let's run an investigation, and we'll make Mexico pay for it!!! Yeah that's the ticket. Oh wait, that's a different story. Strike out that last statement about Mexico.
 

Surf Donkey

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Well there ya go! Let's question them all, I say! In fact, let's run an investigation, and we'll make Mexico pay for it!!! Yeah that's the ticket. Oh wait, that's a different story. Strike out that last statement about Mexico.

Take their individual tests and interpret the results sure.....I am not saying their testing process is skewed. But the rankings don't mean jack ****. They will only review products that pay for it, so it really isn't a best ranking.
 

jamezr

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Take their individual tests and interpret the results sure.....I am not saying their testing process is skewed. But the rankings don't mean jack ****. They will only review products that pay for it, so it really isn't a best ranking.
But then if you get a general consensus then you have a clear winner. Most reviewers rate the S7 camera as the best on a smartphone.
So you're not saying that DxO is paid to rate one over the other but just that they won't test a smartphone unless the smartphone maker pays for it?

This one thinks the V10 has the best camera followed by the S7
http://www.consumerreports.org/smartphones/best-smartphone-cameras/

This one has the S7 as top smartphone camera
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-phone-cameras,review-2272.html

Anther one that has the S7 as top
http://www.cnet.com/topics/phones/best-phones/camera/
 

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But then if you get a general consensus then you have a clear winner. Most reviewers rate the S7 camera as the best on a smartphone.
So you're not saying that DxO is paid to rate one over the other but just that they won't test a smartphone unless the smartphone maker pays for it?

This one thinks the V10 has the best camera followed by the S7
http://www.consumerreports.org/smartphones/best-smartphone-cameras/

This one has the S7 as top smartphone camera
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-phone-cameras,review-2272.html

Anther one that has the S7 as top
http://www.cnet.com/topics/phones/best-phones/camera/

But then if you get a general consensus then you have a clear winner.

Winner of what exactly? Benchmarks? Best looking pictures?

I am not saying DxO is paid to rate one over the other. But they do like their headlines (and I sure their "customers" like them too). Take for example their review of the Z5. Best mobile phone camera to date (at the time)!! Better than the iPhone 6s and Samsung S6??

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Mobile-review-Best-mobile-photo-video-scores-to-date

Wait a minute, it is really only better in the flash and video stabilization categories:
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony...oto-sub-scores-Strong-flash-autofocus-results

Does that make it a better camera? With the benchmarks they test with, sure. But do the pictures look better? Also, where is they Lumia 950? What made them get the Samsung score out so super fast vs other phones?

And I would trust CR as a nonprofit over DXO.
 
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jamezr

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But then if you get a general consensus then you have a clear winner.

Winner of what exactly? Benchmarks? Best looking pictures?

I am not saying DxO is paid to rate one over the other. But they do like their headlines (and I sure their "customers" like them too). Take for example their review of the Z5. Best mobile phone camera to date (at the time)!! Better than the iPhone 6s and Samsung S6??

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Mobile-review-Best-mobile-photo-video-scores-to-date

Wait a minute, it is really only better in the flash and video categories:
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony...oto-sub-scores-Strong-flash-autofocus-results

Does that make it a better camera? With the benchmarks they test with, sure. But do the pictures look better? \

And I would trust CR as a nonprofit over DXO.
But my point is you can always find one reviewer that has a bias over one phone over another. It happens to everyone....look at you and me....I prefer Samsung phones and you prefer the Nexus 6P. There is nothing wrong with that. They are both great phones.
But when you add up the total volume of reviewers they all say the S7/edge has the best smartphone camera.

As far as the Z5.....i don't know. I have never had one. But I know that DxO uses a formula to take the human part out of the equation and ratings. When i was researching the Z5 to get one, I read all kinds of reviews that said it had the best camera on a smartphone. Over at XDA they had professional photographers drooling over it. But then I read reviews that said it was horrible.
I am not going to throw out their reviews just because i did not like of of their findings
 

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But my point is you can always find one reviewer that has a bias over one phone over another. It happens to everyone....look at you and me....I prefer Samsung phones and you prefer the Nexus 6P.

First, if I wanted to be a credible reviewer, I wouldn't have bias. If you are saying DxO has bias, I am guessing it is because they have bias to quickly "test" phones that pay them the most.

And I don't prefer the Nexus 6P over Samsung phones. I just don't like Touchwiz, bloat and late updates. The phone itself is awesome. Way better than any Nexus device out there :)

Oh and tied to carriers, different processors, massive price tag, terrible customer support. But yeah, the phone almost makes up for that. Almost.
 
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jamezr

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First, if I wanted to be a credible reviewer, I wouldn't have bias. And I don't prefer the Nexus 6P over Samsung phones. I just don't like Touchwiz, bloat and late updates. The phone itself is awesome. Way better than any Nexus device out there :)
really can't go wrong with either one. They both have great qualities.
But i do get your point about the Z5 and DxO review. It does seem out of place with some here on MR that have first hand experience with the phone. I know MRU has or had one. I don't think he liked it.
 
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