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Vegastouch

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Have to see to believe that...updates will I feel always let samsung down when it comes to the latest android software updates.
Well, I don't know. I had to look to see what update I'm on. I'm on 7.0 and don't know how far they are on 7. I don't really care if I get every update right away. My phone works fine.
I had a Nexus 5 and it got faster updates but i didnt like the phone , and didnt care for pure Android which is why I went back to the Galaxy phones. I like the extra things they put in it. I don't use the TouchWiz launcher so that isn't an issue.
 

Michael Goff

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Well, I don't know. I had to look to see what update I'm on. I'm on 7.0 and don't know how far they are on 7. I don't really care if I get every update right away. My phone works fine.
I had a Nexus 5 and it got faster updates but i didnt like the phone , and didnt care for pure Android which is why I went back to the Galaxy phones. I like the extra things they put in it. I don't use the TouchWiz launcher so that isn't an issue.

They’re on 8.1 by now.
 

Macalicious2011

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The Galaxy S9's Exynos 9810 almost doubles the performance, while multicore performance increases 40% - in total, we're talking about a performance increase of ~ 65% in total. (By comparison, we saw a performance increase of ~ 15% from S7 to S8). In addition, the S9 brings the latest Samsung Experience edition to a Galaxy S model for the first time, tackling many of the issues with frame drops and lugging that TouchWiz has often been criticized for. As noted in Note 8, Samsung finally manages to provide a smooth UI software experience in the user interface. The S9 also receives stereo speakers, proper face recognition technology and major upgrades in the camera. Also moved the fingerprint scanner, thank god.

So overall, S9 is a major upgrade from S8 than the S8 was from S7, or the S7 was from S6. So yes, the upgrade is pretty big. Do not be misunderstood just because it looks a lot like S8. There are major changes in the S9 than what you see at first glance.

I'm definitely switching (fell for the iPhone X meme).

Thanks. Your round up makes me excited to potentially snag an S9 Plus. Given that my phone is my main camera for snapping photos of my toddler, I will greatly benefit from the variable aperture and superb image quality.
 

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I haven't decided yet on the blue or purple.
Same here. I thought for sure I’d get another purple but that blue is really nice. I see the U.K. is getting 128 GB base storage but the US is getting only 64 GB. Bummer! It’s not a deal breaker because I doubt I’d ever fill the base storage given that I’m conservative about downloading apps. My pictures and video will go to the cloud and my storage card. But I still would have liked 128 GB offered.

I’m surprised that the trade in difference between the S7/S7 Edge and S8+ is only $50. I was going to trade in my S8+ because of it having the pink tinted display and being a general lag wagon. But it’s still got the fresher battery for VR so I guess I’ll trade in the S7 Edge.

I’m not sure whether or not to get the unlocked or the AT&T version from Samsung. I can’t tell if there was any difference between update release speeds. I’d gotten an AT&T version of the S8+ after the fiasco of my unlocked S7 never getting any updates, not even security updates in a timely manner.

AT@T bloat isn’t that horrible. What I DO hate is Samsung loading FB onto their phones and FB can only be disabled.
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Nice video...there is a Coral Blue S9+ with my name on it :)
My husband is trying to decide between that one and a Pixel 2. I told him to get the Samsung because he is only going to complain that stock Android doesn’t do enough of what he needs for business and he actually does use Dex sometimes. But I think deep down he wants to put Porgs and Stormtroopers in every scene, too. :p
 
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PJM83

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I went for the purple, we only get 64GB model here. All models sold here are dualsim, something Samsung started with the Note 8.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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Same here. I thought for sure I’d get another purple but that blue is really nice. I see the U.K. is getting 128 GB base storage but the US is getting only 64 GB. Bummer! It’s not a deal breaker because I doubt I’d ever fill the base storage given that I’m conservative about downloading apps. My pictures and video will go to the cloud and my storage card. But I still would have liked 128 GB offered.

I’m surprised that the trade in difference between the S7/S7 Edge and S8+ is only $50. I was going to trade in my S8+ because of it having the pink tinted display and being a general lag wagon. But it’s still got the fresher battery for VR so I guess I’ll trade in the S7 Edge.

I’m not sure whether or not to get the unlocked or the AT&T version from Samsung. I can’t tell if there was any difference between update release speeds. I’d gotten an AT&T version of the S8+ after the fiasco of my unlocked S7 never getting any updates, not even security updates in a timely manner.

AT@T bloat isn’t that horrible. What I DO hate is Samsung loading FB onto their phones and FB can only be disabled.

I guess we will see with the S9 if Project Treble makes an actual diffrence in speed of updates.

I went for the purple, we only get 64GB model here. All models sold here are dualsim, something Samsung started with the Note 8.

Would be smarter for the dual sim versions to have the 128gb - 256gb.
 
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Now this is just the OCD in me talking, but does it bother anyone else that the light is to the right of the camera instead of lined up together like the Note 8? I didn't think much of it until I saw the S9+ cases and the extra cutout to the right sure makes it look less clean.
 
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Now this is just the OCD in me talking, but does it bother anyone else that the light is to the right of the camera instead of lined up together like the Note 8? I didn't think much of it until I saw the S9+ cases and the extra cutout to the right sure makes it look less clean.
I have seen some of the case cutouts and they look awful, so no, I don’t think you’re being too picky. However, I think Samsung decided this was the lesser of two evils given that people kept complaining the FPS was placed too high up on the back of the phone to be easily reached.
 

PJM83

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I guess we will see with the S9 if Project Treble makes an actual diffrence in speed of updates.



Would be smarter for the dual sim versions to have the 128gb - 256gb.
Yes all dual sim should be of the larger storage varieties since they use a hybrid slot. Doesn't bother me much since I only use one sim and roaming is free in all of EU if I'm abroad, but still.
 
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I guess we will see with the S9 if Project Treble makes an actual diffrence in speed of updates.



Would be smarter for the dual sim versions to have the 128gb - 256gb.
I wish we had dual sim versions for the US. Some business people travel extensively and it would have been appreciated by them.

I’m tired of the US getting stiffed on regional differences by Asian manufacturers. But given the dominance of iPhones in our market and how sparse a featureset American customers seem willing and even eager to accept judging from our devotion to Apple, I can certainly understand Samsung deciding it’s not worth their bother to offer us what other more demanding customers in other countries get.
 

Mark316

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I have seen some of the case cutouts and they look awful, so no, I don’t think you’re being too picky. However, I think Samsung decided this was the lesser of two evils given that people kept complaining the FPS was placed too high up on the back of the phone to be easily reached.

In reality though, if they kept it the way the Note 8 was, but flipped it vertically like it is on the S9+, the fingerprint sensor would be a bit lower and probably be even easier to reach don't you think? I don't get why they moved the light to the side.
 

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Yes all dual sim should be of the larger stroage varieties since they use a hybrid slot. Doesn't bother me much since I only use one sim and roaming is free in all of EU if I'm abroad, but still.
I am in Kl at the moment and all 3 storage sizes are available in dual sim.

There seems no Samsung trade in deal for S8 or S8+ but S7 and down etc.

Prices seem pretty keen compared to UK and pre orders get some free goodies too
 

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I wish we had dual sim versions for the US. Some business people travel extensively and it would have been appreciated by them.

I’m tired of the US getting stiffed on regional differences by Asian manufacturers. But given the dominance of iPhones in our market and how sparse a featureset American customers seem willing and even eager to accept judging from our devotion to Apple, I can certainly understand Samsung deciding it’s not worth their bother to offer us what other more demanding customers in other countries get.


Yea, it's crazy that I have some budget Android phones that have dual sim and other features most flagships in the US don't have.
 
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In reality though, if they kept it the way the Note 8 was, but flipped it vertically like it is on the S9+, the fingerprint sensor would be a bit lower and probably be even easier to reach don't you think? I don't get why they moved the light to the side.
Maybe that arrangement would make the light cast unflattering shadows on the subject? I don’t know. Just guessing. Maybe there’s something internal keeping them from doing it the way you suggest.
 

Mark316

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Maybe that arrangement would make the light cast unflattering shadows on the subject? I don’t know. Just guessing. Maybe there’s something internal keeping them from doing it the way you suggest.

Yeah there definitely must be a reason I just hate the look haha
 
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Yea, it's crazy that I have some budget Android phones that have dual sim and other features most flagships in the US don't have.
It’s crazy but I think we can surmise it’s due to Apple. Google is copying Apple’s strategy so closely it’s like they bought a template. Give people a very narrow set of features, but make sure they’re good quality and charge a premium to get high margins. I can’t blame Samsung for following along.

These budget phones you speak of are marketed to India and China and other countries where many people are very price conscious but also demanding of versatile features. The competition is fierce so they expect a lot for their money.

The companies have to cut corners somewhere so often the materials or the camera won’t be “premium” and the hardware and software support will be sparse to nonexistent, but the specs and features will be amazing.

We do see the Chinese companies offering some amazing phones for low prices but we need to keep in mind how much help the Chinese government gives them so they can absorb the costs better than more independent companies can.

At the other extreme we see Apple got like a bloated tick level of successful trickling out features to us and slowly emphasizing margins over quality components We still don’t have stereo recording capabilities. The mic still isn’t the best. They’ve gimped Qualcomm modems to match Intel modems due to a battle over costs.

The phone is really not that good, I mean I make almost all of my calls on my Pixel or Samsung once I realized not all cell phone calls have to be plagued with crackle and distortion. Granted, my 8 Plus and the X are much improved. But as recently as iPhone 7 Plus, on a call I could swear it was still 1996 and my husband and I were on our old Nokias.

But until I jumped over the wall of the garden, I genuinely believed when I bought an iPhone I was getting the best of every feature and component available and getting the cutting edge of technology, but refined. And most of my friends still think that, despite having massive issues since iOS 11. They can’t understand why I’m experimenting with Pixels and Samsungs.

I have a friend who is completely underwhelmed by his X. But when I try to show him my Android phones he backs away and shakes his head and says “Nah, I’m an iPhone guy.”

I hear that a lot. “Ah, I only use Apple stuff.” That’s fine if you know why. But most people I talk to don’t know why. They’ve just been doing so since Steve Jobs introduced the first iPhone. That was the end of that. Even though IPhones and Apple products aren’t simple and intuitive anymore and just about everyone I know now is having problems with their iPhones, especially the ones over a year old.

I still think very highly of Apple products but I do believe Apple did let some complacency set in. And I think they know they can get away with taking features away and offering the bare minimum as long as they sell it as “the future.” Hey, it seems to be working. Warren Buffet is as bullish as ever on AAPL. Their customers are still as devoted as ever despite some being disgruntled about various things.

Anyway, I think Samsung takes some cues from Apple when marketing to the US and doesn’t go all out to court us because we have demonstrated we don’t seem to mind paying through the nose for whatever a company decides to offer, if it’s marketed right. We’ve got a lot of protectionism going against the Chinese upstarts so...hello 64GB and single sim phones.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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These budget phones you speak of are marketed to India and China and other countries where many people are very price conscious but also demanding of versatile features. The competition is fierce so they expect a lot for their money.

The companies have to cut corners somewhere so often the materials or the camera won’t be “premium” and the hardware and software support will be sparse to nonexistent, but the specs and features will be amazing.

We do see the Chinese companies offering some amazing phones for low prices but we need to keep in mind how much help the Chinese government gives them so they can absorb the costs better than more independent companies can.


I've been impressed with some of the phones Blu (American company) has been throwing out lately, and for such a low price.
 

Vegastouch

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I'm going to get the blue one but it really won't matter since the front is black and I'll be putting a case on it anyways. My S7 has had one on it since day one. Still has the sticker on the back of it.
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It’s crazy but I think we can surmise it’s due to Apple. Google is copying Apple’s strategy so closely it’s like they bought a template. Give people a very narrow set of features, but make sure they’re good quality and charge a premium to get high margins. I can’t blame Samsung for following along.

These budget phones you speak of are marketed to India and China and other countries where many people are very price conscious but also demanding of versatile features. The competition is fierce so they expect a lot for their money.

The companies have to cut corners somewhere so often the materials or the camera won’t be “premium” and the hardware and software support will be sparse to nonexistent, but the specs and features will be amazing.

We do see the Chinese companies offering some amazing phones for low prices but we need to keep in mind how much help the Chinese government gives them so they can absorb the costs better than more independent companies can.

At the other extreme we see Apple got like a bloated tick level of successful trickling out features to us and slowly emphasizing margins over quality components We still don’t have stereo recording capabilities. The mic still isn’t the best. They’ve gimped Qualcomm modems to match Intel modems due to a battle over costs.

The phone is really not that good, I mean I make almost all of my calls on my Pixel or Samsung once I realized not all cell phone calls have to be plagued with crackle and distortion. Granted, my 8 Plus and the X are much improved. But as recently as iPhone 7 Plus, on a call I could swear it was still 1996 and my husband and I were on our old Nokias.

But until I jumped over the wall of the garden, I genuinely believed when I bought an iPhone I was getting the best of every feature and component available and getting the cutting edge of technology, but refined. And most of my friends still think that, despite having massive issues since iOS 11. They can’t understand why I’m experimenting with Pixels and Samsungs.

I have a friend who is completely underwhelmed by his X. But when I try to show him my Android phones he backs away and shakes his head and says “Nah, I’m an iPhone guy.”


I hear that a lot. “Ah, I only use Apple stuff.” That’s fine if you know why. But most people I talk to don’t know why. They’ve just been doing so since Steve Jobs introduced the first iPhone. That was the end of that. Even though IPhones and Apple products aren’t simple and intuitive anymore and just about everyone I know now is having problems with their iPhones, especially the ones over a year old.

I still think very highly of Apple products but I do believe Apple did let some complacency set in. And I think they know they can get away with taking features away and offering the bare minimum as long as they sell it as “the future.” Hey, it seems to be working. Warren Buffet is as bullish as ever on AAPL. Their customers are still as devoted as ever despite some being disgruntled about various things.

Anyway, I think Samsung takes some cues from Apple when marketing to the US and doesn’t go all out to court us because we have demonstrated we don’t seem to mind paying through the nose for whatever a company decides to offer, if it’s marketed right. We’ve got a lot of protectionism going against the Chinese upstarts so...hello 64GB and single sim phones.
I dont understand that either. Why not try different things? I had the first iPhone but had to Jailbreak it to do the things i wanted it to do. I passed on the first Android phone but did get the first Galaxy phone and that was it for the iPhone. I switched and havent had an iPhone since.
I like Android a lot better than iOS. I do have a new iPad so i am using iOS again though this is the first time since 2010, and it is a lot better than it was but the ease of use and customizations....you just cant beat Android and Apple still wont let you do it.

As for iOS 11, i havent been deep into it yet but one thing i notice that dont well,... it says in the setting thats when the tablet is locked, it is supposed to turn off notifications but as its sitting there with the case cover closed, it makes noises from notifications so if i dont want it to do that, i have to set it to "always" or turn it off at night.

I also know some people that will only buy Apple products and if thats what they want to do, great. One of my friends isnt even very tech savvy but will only buy iPhones or iPads. I assume because Android would be too different for him lol. He still has the iPhone 5 and he tries to show me things on it and im like....dude, how do you keep using that tiny thing.....and he has a 10.5" iPad Pro lmao.
 
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Thanks. Your round up makes me excited to potentially snag an S9 Plus. Given that my phone is my main camera for snapping photos of my toddler, I will greatly benefit from the variable aperture and superb image quality.

Yeah, definitely. Can't wait to get back to Android, I thought iPhone X would bring me back to iOS but there's so many features I miss on my old Samsung, and Face ID really gets on my nerve sometimes. Would love if Apple just added an extra fingerprint scanner on the back, but I guess profit margins are more important than user experience or QC for Apple these days.
 
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Vegastouch

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Yeah, definitely. Can't wait to get back to Android, I thought iPhone X would bring me back to iOS but there's so many features I miss on my old Samsung, and Face ID really gets on my nerve sometimes. Would love if Apple just added an extra fingerprint scanner on the back, but I guess profit margins are more important than user experience or QC for Apple these days.
These days? Since its existence. Remember they wouldnt let you copy and paste or send MMS on the first one and took three-four months or so of people complaining for them to change it.
 
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