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Galaxy Z Flip,S20 Ultra ect?
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Galaxy Z Flip,S20 Ultra ect?
Wow I missed all the fun of the last few post 
As you know I have the Fold since release and quite frankly you would have to be a dick to scratch it that hard with your finger nail, having said that crap happens and there is a subsidized replacement scheme
The flip is of course a good device in so far basically its an S10 but instead of getting a software upgrade it got a unique hardware upgrade and folds in half
Sure there are some concerns for those that theorize and it gained a very modest external screen over the S10 and a price hike but at the heart of the Flip is a solid phone that reviewers cannot ignore
Add a sprinkling of some unique feature ala laptop style pose and dual screen and you are there
As you know I have the Fold since release and quite frankly you would have to be a dick to scratch it that hard with your finger nail, having said that crap happens and there is a subsidized replacement scheme
The flip is of course a good device in so far basically its an S10 but instead of getting a software upgrade it got a unique hardware upgrade and folds in half
Sure there are some concerns for those that theorize and it gained a very modest external screen over the S10 and a price hike but at the heart of the Flip is a solid phone that reviewers cannot ignore
Add a sprinkling of some unique feature ala laptop style pose and dual screen and you are there
They need to trim their damn finger nails lolWow I missed all the fun of the last few post
As you know I have the Fold since release and quite frankly you would have to be a dick to scratch it that hard with your finger nail, having said that crap happens and there is a subsidized replacement scheme
Samsung's £1,300 Galaxy Z Flip 'already breaking' just days after launch, users complain
SAMSUNG’S pricey new folding smartphone is apparently breaking within a few days of use. One of the first people to shell out for the £1,300 Galaxy Z Flip claims its screen has already cracke…
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Ugh
Samsung's £1,300 Galaxy Z Flip 'already breaking' just days after launch, users complain
SAMSUNG’S pricey new folding smartphone is apparently breaking within a few days of use. One of the first people to shell out for the £1,300 Galaxy Z Flip claims its screen has already cracke…
Ugh
I hope that this is not widespread, but for 2 of the 3 examples one guy took off the protective film, and the other put the phone in sand. If they film is similar to the Fold, don't think you can take that off or it will break.
Hoping it’s not, maybe just early batch but hopefully it’s not like last time
Gouging a screen with one’s nail isn’t really something most of us, do, though. I’m a woman who sometimes has long fingernails and I’ve never behaved like that with a phone. My kids don’t even do that.
Nor do sensible people go driving metal picks through the display.
Now there is a possibility someone might accidentally snap their phone closed while there’s a bit of sand or something in it. I don’t know if that situation can even be reasonably extrapolated from the whole “icepick through the glass” exercise. But say for the sake of argument that catching a large bit of rough sand could cause that kind of damage.
Then there are options which the special concierge type service that comes with this particular model can discuss with you. And honestly accidents can happen to any phone. There is no need to try and make a huge controversy about it.
My husband said he saw a post on social media about a Flip display that cracked due to cold temperatures. Okay, now that’s a problem for anyone who lives in a region that experiences cold weather. Samsung supposedly replaced their display free of charge. So no need for hysteria even on this (if this story is true, I haven’t seen or vetted it myself). But if it’s true it bears some attention because it can happen to someone even when they are taking care and exercising reasonable diligence with their phone.
There are many things about this phone that merit attention and critical evaluation. We aren’t trying to shut that discussion down. I think if you read how the discussion about the display progressed, you can see what we were reacting to. It went from “Samsung is lying about the nature of their display“ (we discussed how they aren’t) to, as another member put it so well, ever-moving goalposts.
Anyway, now that phone is out in more hands I really look forward to more firsthand reports and discussions. I’d love to move to a folding phone eventually. I’m definitely interested in this form factor and how the Z Flip fares in the real world.
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Oh sorry I didn’t see these posts. That’s weird everything is suddenly coming up after I made my post.
Yes, this is the social media story that I was referringto, that my husband told me about.
It is definitely something to keep an eye on. Temperature extremes are hard on glass as it is.
This was at an AT&T store in a mall. Best Buy told me the same thing so I got lucky for sure!
Latest Foldable Smartphones Experiencing Failures and Durability Issues
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Dang, there goes that idea ?
Yeah, still a neat prototype device but a lot of scratch for something very easy to scratch and now evidently easy to crease ?
Yeah, still a neat prototype device but a lot of scratch for something very easy to scratch and now evidently easy to crease ?
They'll learn from it & Foldables will get better.Latest Foldable Smartphones Experiencing Failures and Durability Issues
Foldable smartphones are the latest device trend, and companies that include Motorola and Samsung have released new foldable smartphones over the...
I notice parts of the tech community still cheering at news like this, because they hate foldables so much....which is a shame.
So it seems Zack at JerryRigEverything has put up a follow up video. He admits there is now glass in the Flip, but then proceeds to make fun of Samsung's claim regarding the added bristles, or lack of bristles, for dust protection. He calls it marketing talk, like he did with the UTG claim. But then his viewers have to tell him, he missed the row of bristles on the frame, which he adds as a correction in the video description. SMH. Zack's usually more thorough in his tear downs, but he totally failed the viewers on this one. He corrects his conclusion from the first video, of Samsung not using UTG, but then makes another wrong conclusion on the lack of bristles for dust protection. Only to have his viewers correct him. Hopefully this is a lesson to him and the rest of the tech media, to not jump to conclusions, in a rush to be the first with breaking news.
He is the shock kind of guy. It is what gets him hits and subscribers. That leads to big bucks for him and all the YT influencers
Yup, amazing how most of these YouTubers make so much money on subscription and views, and they honestly don't offer much. They absolutely rely on the tribalism in the comments section between the fanatics.
Zack is usually pretty on point, he's no partisan for sure.
It is kind of easy to see how he would have come to his initial conclusion on the glass.
My main take from his original video was how easily it scratched - it reflected a weakness comparable to plastic, not glass.
Whether there are fragments of glass in the screen doesn't change the fact that the Z Flip screen isn’t much of an improvement over that of the Fold, which is what Samsung were sprucing, weren’t they?
1) Fragments? It's a complete layer of glass. Ultra Thin Glass that folds. Did you expect it to be as hard and durable as the usual much thicker non folding gorilla glass? Hence, the protective film layer.
2)How do you know the Z Flip screen isn't an improvement from the Fold? Did you compare the two? All hands on users have said they can feel the difference from the Fold. But there's also the display quality. Let's wait for back to back comparisons. Having UTG, instead of a Polyimide layer, should help with image quality.
So let's wait and see on the display comparisons.
Yep, upon finishing the JRE vid, it does look like a layer. Of ‘glass’ or of glass compound though?
No way. But I think JRE raises a good point of Samsung using the misleading term “folding glass screen”...
When words like that are used, people are going to expect a less fragile screen than plastic, but when it scratches as easy as it did, it’s going to fall below people’s expectations.
Honestly I think bickering back and forth over specifics regarding folding screens in their current state is a waste of time. This tech is in it's infancy and will experience issues for some time to come, that's just common sense. I think noone honestly believes folding devices to be as reliable as a standard hard slab smartphone yet. Neither does anyone, at least anyone with a real tech interest, consider these totally crap and uninteresting. The reality lies in the middle.
If you buy a Fold, Z Flip or Razr right now, you're bound to have some fun but you do it at your own risk and a hefty price tag. End of story. If you don't believe that the screen can get damaged very easily, even completely unintentionally, you're lying to yourself. At the same time though, of course that doesn't mean these devices are completely worthless, at least not in the right loving & caring hands.
When the Fold first came out I wrote that I wouldn't even consider buying a folding screen device for another 5 years or so, and I stand by that as a rule of thumb. If I had unlimited cash of course I would buy one today, probably a Fold, just for fun. But as it stands, I'll give it another 5-ish years before they've both solved the durability issues AND worked out how the hell to actually maximise the usability of these things.
So, see you in 2024 I guess. Meanwhile, enjoy
If you buy a Fold, Z Flip or Razr right now, you're bound to have some fun but you do it at your own risk and a hefty price tag. End of story. If you don't believe that the screen can get damaged very easily, even completely unintentionally, you're lying to yourself. At the same time though, of course that doesn't mean these devices are completely worthless, at least not in the right loving & caring hands.
When the Fold first came out I wrote that I wouldn't even consider buying a folding screen device for another 5 years or so, and I stand by that as a rule of thumb. If I had unlimited cash of course I would buy one today, probably a Fold, just for fun. But as it stands, I'll give it another 5-ish years before they've both solved the durability issues AND worked out how the hell to actually maximise the usability of these things.
So, see you in 2024 I guess. Meanwhile, enjoy
Good points. It’s important we’re realistic about these foldable devices. They’re not the worst things ever, but they’re far from the greatest. Buying them now isn’t a clever decision, especially if you don’t have the money...
Praising them just to spite those who criticise them & vice versa, just misleads those who are thinking about handing over big money for them.
Foldables should force you to do the research more than any other mobile device.
But at the same time people are praising them because it is new tech and we are intrigued and excited about it.
Some want to dwell on the negative and some don't. But on one is saying these things are without issues.
We are just refuting the obvious trolls in this thread.
Then it behooves anyone to do due diligence before forking over big money on ANY product.
So very true!
That's not true as even seen in JRE review and others note the screen is now mounted on a metal plate giving a flatter and more supported screen and the glass has improved the visual aspects of images etc
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I think this is cobblers
Your trying to build a case on fordable phones because there screen can under certain conditions be scratched more easily, yet lives a far greater portion of its life more protected than others being closed etc etc
Crap happens to any device, is your Samsung or Apple device more likely to shatter its screen from a drop than a fordable, or from impact of a corner of a table whilst in your pocket etc and any other set of scenarios we can dream up both positive and negative
The truth is we do not know and your perception is equally as miss leading as your bias and basis is only considering one aspect
As far as cost goes none of us would advise anyone to over extend themselves be it $50 or $2000 and people are free to be as frivolous, impulse buyers or one that makes 20 spreadsheets of comparisons, being clever has little to do with it, its personal choice for many reasons
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Samsung Galaxy Z Flip teardown finds the glass beneath a protective plastic layer
Like on the Galaxy Fold, the plastic protective layer is essential to the display's operation and cannot be removed. The JerryRigEverything durability test...
There are many aspects out there already. They’re what I’m going off.
Content creators who have the Z Flip are saying it's a cool, innovative & powerful device, but can’t recommend it to typical smartphone users yet.
If culminating negative & positive impressions from experts who have had hands on with the device & concluding that people should think hard before buying is misleading, then you’ve just unnecessarily contributed to over-praising a device that doesn’t deserve it at this stage.