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MRU

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I've hit 75k antutu and overclocked gs6s have broke 81k so the numbers are not to far off given that arm said a72 cores will be 20-60% faster then the older cores.

Here is my gs6 on second firmware hitting 72k I got 75k on original and knew my cell got a little slower after the update but I never saved the screen shot. View attachment 574308

Out of interest - How do you overclock ? And could that potentially really damage the hardware ? You must have nerves of steel - I'm intimidated by rooting and losing warranty let alone going that far.
 

grkm3

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Out of interest - How do you overclock ? And could that potentially really damage the hardware ? You must have nerves of steel - I'm intimidated by rooting and losing warranty let alone going that far.

I can't over clock because I have a darn locked Verizon bootloader and can't load a custom kernel.

Samsung has straps for 2500 mhz in the kernel but locked out.with unlocked bootloader you can modify the kernel and raise or lower voltages and raise gpu or cpu clocks etc.
 
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MRU

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I can't over clock because I have a darn locked Verizon bootloader and can't load a custom kernel.

Samsung has straps for 2500 mhz in the kernel but locked out.with unlocked bootloader you can modify the kernel and raise or lower voltages and raise gpu or cpu clocks etc.

That sounds truly scary :) as much as I like to mess around with devices I've never had the nerve to go anywhere that far - even back in the day when building PC's I would be too worried of breaking stuff to overclock CPU or GPU's...
 

grkm3

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That sounds truly scary :) as much as I like to mess around with devices I've never had the nerve to go anywhere that far - even back in the day when building PC's I would be too worried of breaking stuff to overclock CPU or GPU's...

My next phone will be unlocked so I can tinker with it and is why I get excited with benchmarks because I go way beyond what the stock hardware is capped at.

Here is ktoonz kernel for your phone and I would or ran it the day I got your cell ha-ha.

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apolloa

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Also....just because anandtech founder works for Apple now, doesn't make them biased. I find there reviews are well thought out and pretty subjective. They praise any phone on its worths, and point out weaknesses. The example of this is they praised the s6, saying it is close to a perfect smartphone of it wasn't for the battery life....a pretty true statement. They also praised the current iPhones but called them out for the lack of ram...again a real issue.

Want a biased website? Read imore, in particular Renie. I am not one to insult, but I have never seen such biased, BS articles as they guy prints. I don't understand it....android central, the sister website, is a lot more far...even giving Apple credit when it's deserved.

Matter of opinion on this one as I do think they are biased in some articles they have made.

Anyway, I have also never held an Android device and thought it was a piece of junk, I do not know of one device on the market in the UK that would feel like that? BUT my Nexus 5 does overheat and drain the battery like nothing when shooting video even in 720p!
The LG G4 also uses the 808 SOC so it doesn't overheat with the 810, so not saying they don't overheat.
But I have felt that Apple's quality is lacking, like when the power button failed on my iPhone 5 after a few months. In fact most of my Apple devices have developed some form of 'known issue'. Not what you expect for the money they cost and it does give a feeling of low quality.
 
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Matter of opinion on this one as I do think they are biased in some articles they have made.

Anyway, I have also never held an Android device and thought it was a piece of junk, I do not know of one device on the market in the UK that would feel like that? BUT my Nexus 5 does overheat and drain the battery like nothing when shooting video even in 720p!
The LG G4 also uses the 808 SOC so it doesn't overheat with the 810, so not saying they don't overheat.
But I have felt that Apple's quality is lacking, like when the power button failed on my iPhone 5 after a few months. In fact most of my Apple devices have developed some form of 'known issue'. Not what you expect for the money they cost and it does give a feeling of low quality.


I can't disagree with you on that. For the price demanded, Apple products should be more durable, with higher end specs.
 

apolloa

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Out of interest - How do you overclock ? And could that potentially really damage the hardware ? You must have nerves of steel - I'm intimidated by rooting and losing warranty let alone going that far.

It's pretty easy, you just need a ROM that will allow it and install an app to control the clocks and voltages etc. Played around with my first Android tablet, a Chinese Ainol model. Had a lot of fun trying different ROMS on that. Learnt a lot from it.

I can't disagree with you on that. For the price demanded, Apple products should be more durable, with higher end specs.

Yeah, I let them off the Nvidia GPU fault I had as that was an Nvidia issue really. I know they replaced my motherboard due to it, but I bet they made Nvidia pay for it.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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I don't think people generally care about benchmarks these days do they? Having seen the task tests between flagships, they are all so close with mere seconds in it anyway. It's a good bragging right I suppose on a geek medium but do people generally know or care about speed on phones that are fast anyway? Well done to Samsung though if they are managing their hardware better these days. It all helps.
 

apolloa

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I don't think people generally care about benchmarks these days do they? Having seen the task tests between flagships, they are all so close with mere seconds in it anyway. It's a good bragging right I suppose on a geek medium but do people generally know or care about speed on phones that are fast anyway? Well done to Samsung though if they are managing their hardware better these days. It all helps.

Not really no, they can multitask pretty well these day's, and they won't really browse the web or run your SMS, email any faster. They all handle media with aplomb too. Only really gaming I guess where it may make a difference? But even then you may have very pretty graphics but it's still on a phone or tablet size screen.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Not really no, they can multitask pretty well these day's, and they won't really browse the web or run your SMS, email any faster. They all handle media with aplomb too. Only really gaming I guess where it may make a difference? But even then you may have very pretty graphics but it's still on a phone or tablet size screen.
Ah right I see. I think the last game I had on my phone was Angry Birds a few years ago and never really looked at phone games since. I'm sure they've come a long way since then. This sort of speed wouldn't be noticeable in my use then but at least now I understand thanks :)
 

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I can't over clock because I have a darn locked Verizon bootloader and can't load a custom kernel.

Samsung has straps for 2500 mhz in the kernel but locked out.with unlocked bootloader you can modify the kernel and raise or lower voltages and raise gpu or cpu clocks etc.
And why would you do that? Clearly over the years Samsung's engineers failed a lot, but are you better than them?
The one time I overclocked my Galaxy was when I said "f*** the lag" and got to 1.2GHz on a 1GHz, dual core, Novathor chipset. In one day that battery got very swollen. It's pretty obvious to me.

Also, the phone would restart a lot and stutter even more. Clearly it was because of heat restrictions.

Now, as objective websites like Anandtech and Ars Technica, plus the fewer and fewer people buying high end Samsung phones can attest, they throttle way more than iPhones, much quicker. Despite not being 100% plastic (bad heat conductor), the GS6 still suffers from it. Not as bad as 810 Snapdragon based phones, but far from as good as iphones.
 

pedro_martins

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Not really no, they can multitask pretty well these day's, and they won't really browse the web or run your SMS, email any faster. They all handle media with aplomb too. Only really gaming I guess where it may make a difference? But even then you may have very pretty graphics but it's still on a phone or tablet size screen.
Samsung's phones can't multitask. Apps are always being reloaded. I know your post history, I'm sure your model is different than the others. But it is one of the reasons for slowing sales: People learned Samsung phones can't multitask.
 

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Samsung's phones can't multitask. Apps are always being reloaded. I know your post history, I'm sure your model is different than the others. But it is one of the reasons for slowing sales: People learned Samsung phones can't multitask.

My phone multitasks.

There are even people here that have 6 or more apps in background before they refresh.
 
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BlueGoldAce

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And why would you do that? Clearly over the years Samsung's engineers failed a lot, but are you better than them?
The one time I overclocked my Galaxy was when I said "f*** the lag" and got to 1.2GHz on a 1GHz, dual core, Novathor chipset. In one day that battery got very swollen. It's pretty obvious to me.

Also, the phone would restart a lot and stutter even more. Clearly it was because of heat restrictions.

Now, as objective websites like Anandtech and Ars Technica, plus the fewer and fewer people buying high end Samsung phones can attest, they throttle way more than iPhones, much quicker. Despite not being 100% plastic (bad heat conductor), the GS6 still suffers from it. Not as bad as 810 Snapdragon based phones, but far from as good as iphones.
"Fewer" still outpaces all the other android makers by a very large margin. It's not like they are HTC.

Samsung makes sole dynamite phones now.
 
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pedro_martins

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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/29/samsung-is-ruining-even-basic-multitasking-on-its-smartphones/

At this point, for someone to share made up videos from "press releases" and actually deny Samsung's problems... Well.. It's your money, spend it as you see fit and I hope your versions are actually different than the fewer and fewer ones on the wild.

I won't continue this discussion. Still, it won't change the facts that consumers caught up with Samsung's failures, and their phones can't properly multitask, certainly not as any phone with 1/3rd of the RAM can.
 

MRU

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My phone multitasks.

There are even people here that have 6 or more apps in background before they refresh.
Yeah even my old one which suffered badly from the ram issue still multitasked (3-4 apps) and that's not even factoring multiwindow of course. My new one is better than the first S6e and I get about 5 or 6 backgrounded apps before refreshing. Might not be as many as other devices I have but that's still a far cry from not being able to multitask at all which is clearly not true

I may openly criticise Samsung for things that affect me when using their devices, but you have to be honest about it rather than exaggerate the issue completely. It can and does multitask even with the aggressive ram issue ...

I actually got to use the A7 tonight and was actually impressed by it as mid tier device. Reminded me of the alpha but had a better screen and it too handled about half a dozen apps open without issue.
 
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grkm3

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And why would you do that? Clearly over the years Samsung's engineers failed a lot, but are you better than them?
The one time I overclocked my Galaxy was when I said "f*** the lag" and got to 1.2GHz on a 1GHz, dual core, Novathor chipset. In one day that battery got very swollen. It's pretty obvious to me.

Also, the phone would restart a lot and stutter even more. Clearly it was because of heat restrictions.

Now, as objective websites like Anandtech and Ars Technica, plus the fewer and fewer people buying high end Samsung phones can attest, they throttle way more than iPhones, much quicker. Despite not being 100% plastic (bad heat conductor), the GS6 still suffers from it. Not as bad as 810 Snapdragon based phones, but far from as good as iphones.

That's
And why would you do that? Clearly over the years Samsung's engineers failed a lot, but are you better than them?
The one time I overclocked my Galaxy was when I said "f*** the lag" and got to 1.2GHz on a 1GHz, dual core, Novathor chipset. In one day that battery got very swollen. It's pretty obvious to me.

Also, the phone would restart a lot and stutter even more. Clearly it was because of heat restrictions.

Now, as objective websites like Anandtech and Ars Technica, plus the fewer and fewer people buying high end Samsung phones can attest, they throttle way more than iPhones, much quicker. Despite not being 100% plastic (bad heat conductor), the GS6 still suffers from it. Not as bad as 810 Snapdragon based phones, but far from as good as iphones.

And why would you do that? Clearly over the years Samsung's engineers failed a lot, but are you better than them?
The one time I overclocked my Galaxy was when I said "f*** the lag" and got to 1.2GHz on a 1GHz, dual core, Novathor chipset. In one day that battery got very swollen. It's pretty obvious to me.

Also, the phone would restart a lot and stutter even more. Clearly it was because of heat restrictions.

Now, as objective websites like Anandtech and Ars Technica, plus the fewer and fewer people buying high end Samsung phones can attest, they throttle way more than iPhones, much quicker. Despite not being 100% plastic (bad heat conductor), the GS6 still suffers from it. Not as bad as 810 Snapdragon based phones, but far from as good as iphones.

That's funny you mention anadtech because they just did a review of the exynos 7 and had a unlocked bootloader and over clocked and under volted the soc

The gs6 is on 14nm and nothing like the phone u had 4 years ago
 
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jamezr

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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/29/samsung-is-ruining-even-basic-multitasking-on-its-smartphones/

At this point, for someone to share made up videos from "press releases" and actually deny Samsung's problems... Well.. It's your money, spend it as you see fit and I hope your versions are actually different than the fewer and fewer ones on the wild.

I won't continue this discussion. Still, it won't change the facts that consumers caught up with Samsung's failures, and their phones can't properly multitask, certainly not as any phone with 1/3rd of the RAM can.
so now your story changed form "Can't multi task" to "Can't multi task properly"
Even with people telling you real world performance that they do indeed multi task. Then a video that shows multi tasking and you still deny it. A couple posts back a poster said people can have 6 apps open before an app refresh and still you deny it. Geesh....
There are so many videos of everyday normal people multi tasking on Samsung phones. Just educate yourself.
 

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so now your story changed form "Can't multi task" to "Can't multi task properly"
Even with people telling you real world performance that they do indeed multi task. Then a video that shows multi tasking and you still deny it. A couple posts back a poster said people can have 6 apps open before an app refresh and still you deny it. Geesh....
There are so many videos of everyday normal people multi tasking on Samsung phones. Just educate yourself.

And then we get into the argument of what "proper" multitasking is.
 

jamezr

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I don't think consumers consult how a phone did on benchmarks prior to purchasing it. I just don't see how benchmarks can be used for marketing purposes at this point.
TBH you are correct. The vast majority of the people out there will not know enough to look up benchmarks of a phone before buying one. But they do hear it from phone reps and tech people like us all the time.
 

MRU

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And then we get into the argument of what "proper" multitasking is.
That gets into a myriad shades of grey. Heck technically even if we didn't open anything the device (or any smartphone) is still actually multitasking all the time as they are running a myriad of multiple tasks in the background from handling cellular data, WiFi, GPS & location services etc... all those are running simultaneously so technically multitasking. And that's not even getting into areas of running apps, backgrounded apps or multi-window etc.. it's like a million shades of grey if you go down that route.
 

mi7chy

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Samsung's phones can't multitask. Apps are always being reloaded. I know your post history, I'm sure your model is different than the others. But it is one of the reasons for slowing sales: People learned Samsung phones can't multitask.

Samsung can't multitask huh? What do you think this stock Galaxy S6 is doing with Need for Speed Most Wanted, MX Player Pro and Twitch.tv?

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