Samsung Note 8

[Shanghaichica]

Galaxy Note8 named MVP of the year by MKBHD. I'm sure he now has a whole lot of haters from MR

Well deserved by Samsung on the Note8 as they really hit it out the park with the Note8.

Despite not having the phone anymore I can agree with it being the phone of the year. It’s an amazing phone.

It’s a testament to how good the phone is because Marques prefers the nexus phones and stock android.

 

[bashster]

Over 75% US teenagers use iPhones. Soooooo...

Exactly, they have teenagers and from my experience they use iMessage with family/parents and the other apps with friends, sooooooo

 

[Sevanw]

Exactly, they have teenagers and from my experience they use iMessage with family/parents and the other apps with friends, sooooooo

LOL, you completely missed my point. If reading comprehension is a severe weakness for you, I apologize for finding humor in your post.
My point is, you referred to all other apps as being "for teenagers." Now you agree teenagers use iMessage. OK then. Nonetheless, I say again, restricting yourself to just one messaging app is extremely short sighted in this global age of social media. To be honest, anytime I hear a user restricting themselves to one messaging app, it's ALWAYS an iPhone user. I can't even imagine telling someone, "sorry we can't message each other because I'm on an iPhone, I only use iMessage. You should have never bought an Android phone." Lol

 

[convergent]

LOL, you completely missed my point. If reading comprehension is a severe weakness for you, I apologize for finding humor in your post.
My point is, you referred to all other apps as being "for teenagers." Now you agree teenagers use iMessage. OK then. Nonetheless, I say again, restricting yourself to just one messaging app is extremely short sighted in this global age of social media. To be honest, anytime I hear a user restricting themselves to one messaging app, it's ALWAYS an iPhone user. I can't even imagine telling someone, "sorry we can't message because I'm on an iPhone, I only use iMessage. You should have never bought an Android phone" Lol

Unfortunately, many Apple users are that way. I was kind of close to being there, and am glad to be out of it. Apple creates such a closed ecosystem that the users are almost trapped. The last thing I have left that I'm using regularly that's Apple is the Apple TV. I love the interface but now that I'm starting to move into home automation I'm finding that it too is crippled when it comes to integration. I should be able to have my Harmony Hub / Echo combo automate going directly to an App by saying "Alexa, turn on Netflix", or something. I can do it with a Roku, but not with the Apple TV. Have to use Siri for that. But I can control everything else in my house numerous ways because of all the interoperability; but Apple stuff is closed off.

 

[Michael Goff]

LOL, you completely missed my point. If reading comprehension is a severe weakness for you, I apologize for finding humor in your post.
My point is, you referred to all other apps as being "for teenagers." Now you agree teenagers use iMessage. OK then. Nonetheless, I say again, restricting yourself to just one messaging app is extremely short sighted in this global age of social media. To be honest, anytime I hear a user restricting themselves to one messaging app, it's ALWAYS an iPhone user. I can't even imagine telling someone, "sorry we can't message each other because I'm on an iPhone, I only use iMessage. You should have never bought an Android phone." Lol

Let’s be honest. More people on Android would restrict themselves to a single messaging app if any of them really took off. Hangouts had potential.

 

[Sevanw]

Let’s be honest. More people on Android would restrict themselves to a single messaging app if any of them really took off. Hangouts had potential.

I would respectfully disagree. The very fact that Android users CHOSE not to make Hangouts a success shows it. You see, if Android users had the cult mentality of using everything that was Google/Android, they would blindly use Google's apps regardless of how good the app was just so it would succeed, or takeoff, as you put it. The same way, Apple users are bent on using everything Apple for the sake of using Apple apps. Even when the Apple version sucks. Like using Apple Maps instead of Google Maps when Google maps is just so much better. Android users just seem more open to using whatever app it takes to make them more productive. They're not loyal to Google to the point it interferes with their productivity. You simply just don't see that with a majority of Apple users. Especially when it comes to messaging. For them, it's iMessage or nothing. But with all that being said, regardless of how good iMessage is amongst iOS users, it shouldn't stop someone from installing other messaging apps like Whatsapp, Telegram, Allo, BBM, etc.... These are messaging apps that are equal/better than iMessage with absolutely no restrictions on who can install them. It's really a head shaker.

 

[Michael Goff]

I would respectfully disagree. The very fact that Android users CHOSE not to make Hangouts a success shows it. You see, if Android users had the cult mentality of using everything that was Google/Android, they would blindly use Google's apps regardless of how good the app was just so it would succeed, or takeoff, as you put it. The same way, Apple users are bent on using everything Apple for the sake of using Apple apps. Even when the Apple version sucks. Like using Apple Maps instead of Google Maps when Google maps is just so much better. Android users just seem more open to using whatever app it takes to make them more productive. They're not loyal to Google to the point it interferes with their productivity. You simply just don't see that with a majority of Apple users. Especially when it comes to messaging. For them, it's iMessage or nothing. But with all that being said, regardless of how good iMessage is amongst iOS users, it shouldn't stop someone from installing other messaging apps like Whatsapp, Telegram, Allo, BBM, etc.... These are messaging apps that are equal/better than iMessage with absolutely no restrictions on who can install them. It's really a head shaker.

I think you’re severely underestimating the power of the default. If Google had actually put their strength behind Hangouts and made it the default? It’d have succeeded. And most people on iOS don’t likely choose apps based on slavish devotion but being good enough and being default.

It’s why IE won and why Google had to plaster everything with “Try Chrome” to get anywhere with it.

 

[Klyster]

Let’s be honest. More people on Android would restrict themselves to a single messaging app if any of them really took off. Hangouts had potential.

It's kinda true in my case.
I use Samsung messages and WhatsApp.
Tried Hangouts, meh...
I can message anyone with the messaging app, it's just not media friendly thanks to the telcos.
WhatsApp is what I use to keep in touch with people overseas on the cheap and also to send pics and vids.

I wish my Telco wouldn't separate sms data and regular data. I have tons if regular data but still get nailed for pics within a sms, so backwards.

I don't use many Google apps but Google search and maps are unbeatable, imo.
Gmail isn't for me, I use Outlook via Samsung Email app.
Samsung browser is way better than chrome on a phone, I'd go as far to say the best phone browser, in my opinion of course...

 

[Michael Goff]

It's kinda true in my case.
I use Samsung messages and WhatsApp.
Tried Hangouts, meh...
I can message anyone with the messaging app, it's just not media friendly thanks to the telcos.
WhatsApp is what I use to keep in touch with people overseas on the cheap and also to send pics and vids.

I wish my Telco wouldn't separate sms data and regular data. I have tons if regular data but still get nailed for pics within a sms, so backwards.

I don't use many Google apps but Google search and maps are unbeatable, imo.
Gmail isn't for me, I use Outlook via Samsung Email app.
Samsung browser is way better than chrome on a phone, I'd go as far to say the best phone browser, in my opinion of course...

When I said potential, I meant as Android iMessage. All they had to do was work on performance, which they basically never did.

 

[widgeteer]

I would respectfully disagree. The very fact that Android users CHOSE not to make Hangouts a success shows it. You see, if Android users had the cult mentality of using everything that was Google/Android, they would blindly use Google's apps regardless of how good the app was just so it would succeed, or takeoff, as you put it. The same way, Apple users are bent on using everything Apple for the sake of using Apple apps. Even when the Apple version sucks. Like using Apple Maps instead of Google Maps when Google maps is just so much better. Android users just seem more open to using whatever app it takes to make them more productive. They're not loyal to Google to the point it interferes with their productivity. You simply just don't see that with a majority of Apple users. Especially when it comes to messaging. For them, it's iMessage or nothing. But with all that being said, regardless of how good iMessage is amongst iOS users, it shouldn't stop someone from installing other messaging apps like Whatsapp, Telegram, Allo, BBM, etc.... These are messaging apps that are equal/better than iMessage with absolutely no restrictions on who can install them. It's really a head shaker.

For someone who claims to take part in global communication platforms, your circle of iPhone users sounds reeeeeaaallly limited. Literally every iPhone user I know uses multiple messaging applications, it's just that iMessage is their main driver (if they're in the States) because it incorporates SMS into the app with the end user having to do nothing in order to communicate with both Android users and iPHone users. One app for the majority of their contacts. Everything else is usually Whatsapp or FB Messenger.

This:
The same way, Apple users are bent on using everything Apple for the sake of using Apple apps. Even when the Apple version sucks. Like using Apple Maps instead of Google Maps when Google maps is just so much better.

Meanwhile according to this survey as of 2015, nearly 70% of iPHone users preferred Google Maps:

https://searchengineland.com/new-su...favored-nearly-70-percent-iphone-users-251955

You seem to be bending yourself into knots trying to prove the usual "Apple iSheep" arguments, and all just to defend how crappy Google's messaging situation is. The irony is ironic. It gets even more ironic when you consider that your stance on Google's graveyard of messaging apps is that it's a feature, not a bug. "The rest of you are messaging wrong!" El Oh El.

 

[Michael Goff]

Put my sim back in my Note8 and man is it fast. I'd forgotten.

 

[bashster]

For someone who claims to take part in global communication platforms, your circle of iPhone users sounds reeeeeaaallly limited. Literally every iPhone user I know uses multiple messaging applications, it's just that iMessage is their main driver (if they're in the States) because it incorporates SMS into the app with the end user having to do nothing in order to communicate with both Android users and iPHone users. One app for the majority of their contacts. Everything else is usually Whatsapp or FB Messenger.

Exactly what i was getting at.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I agree with both Sevanw and widgeteer points on certain aspects.

But honestly, I see more and more users choosing to use alternate messengers over iMessage on their iPhones. But because most just leave iMessage on anyways, an iPhone to iPhone text will really be an iMessage. It's not actually because they consciously chose to use iMessage. That's the beauty of iMessage, but it also gives a false narrative of usage.

What I notice is many are using apps like Whatsapp and Telegram more than iMessage for deliberate chats(meaning not treated like texting), group chats, and picture/file sharing, instead of using iMessage.

One reason for this is the majority of iPhone users don't have a Mac or iPad. So they can't take advantage of using iMessage on anything else but their iPhone. But with other message apps, you can use them on a PC or Android Tablet. Another reason is other messaging apps are more robust.

What I'm really trying to say is .... I never looked at or treated iMessage as a messenger service, but more as a replacement of SMS texts with some messenger features. And that's pretty much how it was designed by Apple. But being that messenger apps are replacing texting as a style of communicating, I feel that iMessage is starting to become out of date.

For example: My 14 year old niece uses FB messenger with all her friends 99% of the time, but they all have iPhones. So why not use iMessage? I think it's because messenger apps are designed for continuous chatting, whereas iMessage is designed like SMS, which is more for sporadic texting.

End rambling

 

[Sevanw]

For someone who claims to take part in global communication platforms, your circle of iPhone users sounds reeeeeaaallly limited. Literally every iPhone user I know uses multiple messaging applications, it's just that iMessage is their main driver (if they're in the States) because it incorporates SMS into the app with the end user having to do nothing in order to communicate with both Android users and iPHone users. One app for the majority of their contacts. Everything else is usually Whatsapp or FB Messenger.

This:
The same way, Apple users are bent on using everything Apple for the sake of using Apple apps. Even when the Apple version sucks. Like using Apple Maps instead of Google Maps when Google maps is just so much better.

Meanwhile according to this survey as of 2015, nearly 70% of iPHone users preferred Google Maps:

https://searchengineland.com/new-su...favored-nearly-70-percent-iphone-users-251955

You seem to be bending yourself into knots trying to prove the usual "Apple iSheep" arguments, and all just to defend how crappy Google's messaging situation is. The irony is ironic. It gets even more ironic when you consider that your stance on Google's graveyard of messaging apps is that it's a feature, not a bug. "The rest of you are messaging wrong!" El Oh El.

I never said all iPhone users in my social circle do this. I said anytime I encounter someone that restricts them to just one messaging app, it's always an iPhone user. There's a difference. How many people in this forum say they can't leave the iPhone or they went back to iPhone because of iMessage. You just don't find that mentality with Android users. No sheep hunting here, just observation. My apologies if I hurt your feelings.

 

[Tig Bitties]

I was able to get my extended family on to WhatsApp recently, for all my iPhone family, which is majority of people like siblings, in-laws, parents, etc...

Only a few of us are Android users, and using WhatsApp between us is so much better. And it wasn't hard to get them to switch, I just kept texting them the link to install it. And once each one did I would use WhatsApp only.

And here in the States WhatsApp is really not popular at all, like no one uses it here, I'd say until this year.

 

[bashster]

No sheep hunting here, just observation.

quote of the year lol.

My apologies if I hurt your feelings.

You are good at having a go at someone then apologising.

If reading comprehension is a severe weakness for you, I apologize for finding humor in your post.

 

[widgeteer]

I never said all iPhone users in my social circle do this. I said anytime I encounter someone that restricts them to just one messaging app, it's always an iPhone user. There's a difference. How many people in this forum say they can't leave the iPhone or they went back to iPhone because of iMessage. You just don't find that mentality with Android users. No sheep hunting here, just observation. My apologies if I hurt your feelings.

No need to apologize! Your argument was poorly made, but at least it was long.

 

[Michael Goff]

And for some reason six hours later my battery is at 66%. Screen on is 1.25hrs.

Guess it's time for the charger for a bit .:/

 

[Sevanw]

I was able to get my extended family on to WhatsApp recently, for all my iPhone family, which is majority of people like siblings, in-laws, parents, etc...

Only a few of us are Android users, and using WhatsApp between us is so much better. And it wasn't hard to get them to switch, I just kept texting them the link to install it. And once each one did I would use WhatsApp only.

And here in the States WhatsApp is really not popular at all, like no one uses it here, I'd say until this year.

Whatsapp definitely is nice, especially having whatsapp web while you're on your laptop/desktop.
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quote of the year lol.



You are good at having a go at someone then apologising.

No need to bash me bashster. But seriously, my apology was sincere. I sometimes say things very direct, and it can come across as taking a shot. Shots not fired.

 

[Klyster]

Has anyone had or known anyone who has had the dreaded zero percent no boot or charge issue yet?

 

[Apple Fritter]

I think people are reading a lot of agenda into messaging that isn't even there. My guess is that folks just more often than not use the app their friends use. On an iPhone, iMessage is the natural choice for me. Top it off with Google's and Facebook's thirst for data, not making them more attractive to me either.

I also don't care to accomodate everybody I know by installing a gazillion different messengers. I mean there's still regular text messages and if that keeps others from sending a line or two it probably wasn't important in the first place.

Mind you, I'm not the type to endlessly converse via messenger like I would in a chat room. I like to send and receive quick to the point messages. But then I also don't yap on the phone for hours which lots of people do, so I may just have different needs than others.

And no, I'm not a blind Apple sheep, I got the Note 8 lying right next to my iPhone 8+. Both are great in their own way.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Has anyone had or known anyone who has had the dreaded zero percent no boot or charge issue yet?

My Note 8 completely drained several times, fortunately no issues charging it back up. I'm going to be wary about letting that happen again after hearing about what some are going through.

 

[widgeteer]

Anyone using an unlocked Note 8 on VZW? Does it get VoLTE? Any quirks I should be wary of?

 

[vine-boating]

Does the Note 8 battery get worse overtime? I have my phone for like 3 months and find the battery isn't as long lasting as when I first got it?

 

[convergent]

Does the Note 8 battery get worse overtime? I have my phone for like 3 months and find the battery isn't as long lasting as when I first got it?

Likely you've been continually adding apps that will slowly erode your battery life (same as any smartphone). The battery management tools are where I've gone to keep tuning things.