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watchthisspace

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Apr 11, 2010
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Whats next " Gold Note 3"

Way to go samsung.##

Look in the grand scale of things. More devices going 64bit the better. It's a technological improvement that should not be compared to the colour of a smartphone.

So thank you Samsung for pushing 64bit computing forward, just how Apple are.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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However, Apple never claims they've invented or innovated a phone with 64 bit so people are just blowing that out of the water too.

I didn't watch the keynote in full myself, but I think this is an interesting observation.

I wonder if people are clawing at straws to keep the argument that Apple is innovating and pushing technologies. To some degree, I think they are, just in a very narrow field of vision. And, obviously, very slowly. But anything seemingly new, and everyone will jump on it to declare it "innovation" to uphold Apple's reputation.
 

Klosefabrinio

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juniors(apple) do strike some times but that doesn't means the senior wont make a comeback and strike even harder this time.:rolleyes:
and to all those who say samsung is copying: ARM makes these processors, it's their business, they provide these processors to these smartphone vendors.
 

skratch77

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Mar 20, 2013
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Really? We're claiming copying on what is -actually- the evolutionary step of processors? :confused:

Its just fun watching the posts they make and don't even notice Intel has 64bit mobile CPUs already and Samsung right now is using arms latest a15 32bit CPU and the only step Samsung has is using arms next CPU arch with is the big little a50 series and who would of thought they were based on there 32/64 bit code!
 

lazard

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Jul 23, 2012
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Considering the next iteration of their S and Note lines will likely have 4GB of ram, it's logical that they would move to 64 bit processors...unlike Apple with their 1-2 gb of ram.
 

Michael Goff

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Its just fun watching the posts they make and don't even notice Intel has 64bit mobile CPUs already and Samsung right now is using arms latest a15 32bit CPU and the only step Samsung has is using arms next CPU arch with is the big little a50 series and who would of thought they were based on there 32/64 bit code!

The 64-bit Bay Trail, right?
 

Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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Hopefully this means kitkat, not just touchwiz, will have 64 bit support.

Seeing as android is essentially Linux, going 64 bit brings us closer to the grand vision of a smartphone doubling as desktop replacement.

Add a doc, keyboard, mouse and monitor and really, 90% of the computing needs for majority of people would easily be met.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Really? We're claiming copying on what is -actually- the evolutionary step of processors? :confused:

Aye.

And when Apple goes to four cores, or when they double the RAM, or when they increase the PPI, or when they increase battery sizes, or when they add a larger screen, let's see if the OP will be as equally diligent in pointing out which monkey is doing what then.
 

sportsfrk214

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Sep 18, 2007
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Not sure why Samsung would say this. The #1 way to get people to not buy your current products is to tell them what's coming next. Could you imagine if 5 months ago Apple had said the next iPhone will have 64-bit, fingerprint scanning, etc? No one would buy an iPhone until that new model came out. Samsung is a bit silly for talking about future phones when they should be worrying about selling the current ones.
 

Michael Goff

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Aye.

And when Apple goes to four cores, or when they double the RAM, or when they increase the PPI, or when they increase battery sizes, or when they add a larger screen, let's see if the OP will be as equally diligent in pointing out which monkey is doing what then.

Of course not, because Apple never copies.... not even when they do.

It's only cool to say Samsung copies.
 

Oohara

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Jun 28, 2012
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Aye.

And when Apple goes to four cores, or when they double the RAM, or when they increase the PPI, or when they increase battery sizes, or when they add a larger screen, let's see if the OP will be as equally diligent in pointing out which monkey is doing what then.

Or adding a swipe-in notification center with quick toggles and brightness control etc.....lol......I think with this guy it's more like monkey no see, monkey no hear :D
 

skratch77

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Not sure why Samsung would say this. The #1 way to get people to not buy your current products is to tell them what's coming next. Could you imagine if 5 months ago Apple had said the next iPhone will have 64-bit, fingerprint scanning, etc? No one would buy an iPhone until that new model came out. Samsung is a bit silly for talking about future phones when they should be worrying about selling the current ones.

I pre ordered a note 3 and could care less about 64 bit when even kit Kat android won't support it.
 

Lunfai

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Nov 21, 2010
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Not sure why Samsung would say this. The #1 way to get people to not buy your current products is to tell them what's coming next. Could you imagine if 5 months ago Apple had said the next iPhone will have 64-bit, fingerprint scanning, etc? No one would buy an iPhone until that new model came out. Samsung is a bit silly for talking about future phones when they should be worrying about selling the current ones.

Samsung doesn't care much, they have new flagship devices every 1/2 year. Both different platters but it's pretty common knowledge if you want the greattest and latest. Kind of like how we know not to buy an iPhone 5 when 5S was close, some people honestly don't care that they get locked into a 2 year contract but for those wanting the latest and greattest then they'll wait.

S4 -> Note repeat.
 

lazard

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Jul 23, 2012
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Not sure why Samsung would say this. The #1 way to get people to not buy your current products is to tell them what's coming next. Could you imagine if 5 months ago Apple had said the next iPhone will have 64-bit, fingerprint scanning, etc? No one would buy an iPhone until that new model came out. Samsung is a bit silly for talking about future phones when they should be worrying about selling the current ones.

People are not dumb. They know that a new/upgraded product is always around the corner when it comes to tech. You can hold off upgrading until the new product comes out, but guess what...another upgraded product will be available in a year. If people want to upgrade, they will. If they play the waiting game, they will never upgrade.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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It's not copying.....natural progressions in processor tech.

And honestly - Samsung has more reason to jump on 64-bit sooner rather than later as the Note 3 has hit the 3 GB RAM max.

So please.....it was great of Apple to release 64-bit and somewhat kickstart public awareness. But don't think Samsung hasn't been looking at this for a least a little while.
 

Tones2

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jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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Aye.

And when Apple goes to four cores, or when they double the RAM, or when they increase the PPI, or when they increase battery sizes, or when they add a larger screen, let's see if the OP will be as equally diligent in pointing out which monkey is doing what then.

This is completely the wrong way of looking at it - you are, essentially, stooping to the OP's level in order to make him seem like some mindless nutjob.

The best response to someone saying Samsung is copying Apple is by saying:

"That's preposterous. Advances in processor technology happen across the board and 64-bit mobile chips are simply the next step. I'd bet Samsung had already been thinking about 64-bit chips, even before the iPhone 5S was announced because the Note 3 is at the RAM max for a 32-bit system (3GB).

Congratulations to Apple for finally being ahead of the curve. But stop pretending its a "copying" situation.....this whole "copying" nonsense needs to stop."
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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This is completely the wrong way of looking at it - you are, essentially, stooping to the OP's level in order to make him seem like some mindless nutjob.

The best response to someone saying Samsung is copying Apple is by saying:

"That's preposterous. Advances in processor technology happen across the board and 64-bit mobile chips are simply the next step. I'd bet Samsung had already been thinking about 64-bit chips, even before the iPhone 5S was announced because the Note 3 is at the RAM max for a 32-bit system (3GB).

Congratulations to Apple for finally being ahead of the curve. But stop pretending its a "copying" situation.....this whole "copying" nonsense needs to stop."

I think you are seriously telling this to the wrong person.
 

blackhand1001

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Jan 6, 2009
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Um, okay? It won't mean a thing if the version of Android it's running isn't 64 bit.

Android can be compiled in 64bit. There already are 64bit branches.

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The 64-bit Bay Trail, right?

Clovertrail and medfield already supported 64bit. It just made no sense to install 64bit operating systems on them as they didn't have 4gb of ram or more. You can install 64bit windows on a clovertrail windows 8 tab if you want.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
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I think you are seriously telling this to the wrong person.

Nope - I'm telling YOU, because of you're love of making sweeping generalizations ala "If APPLE and ANDROID did X, all you Apple fanboys would be doing Y".....

When someone makes a dumb statement like:

"Haha look, Samsung is copying Apple with the 64-bit chip"

The INCORRECT response is:

"Yeah right - and what will it be when Apple does a larger screen, more RAM, etc etc"

That response does two things:

(1) stirs up the pot

(2) does nothing to refute the idiotic claim that Samsung is copying Apple.

My response on the other hand, directly refute the claim by offering EVIDENCE that Samsung was likely thinking about 64-bit chips anyway because of hitting the 3GB RAM ceiling of 32-bit systems in the Note 3.

And guess what? I didn't have to offend anyone to do it.....

Am I seriously coaching you on how to properly refute/defend an argument made against Samsung?
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
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Nope - I'm telling YOU, because of you're love of making sweeping generalizations ala "If APPLE and ANDROID did X, all you Apple fanboys would be doing Y".....

When someone makes a dumb statement like:

"Haha look, Samsung is copying Apple with the 64-bit chip"

The INCORRECT response is:

"Yeah right - and what will it be when Apple does a larger screen, more RAM, etc etc"

That response does two things:

(1) stirs up the pot

(2) does nothing to refute the idiotic claim that Samsung is copying Apple.

My response on the other hand, directly refute the claim by offering EVIDENCE that Samsung was likely thinking about 64-bit chips anyway because of hitting the 3GB RAM ceiling of 32-bit systems in the Note 3.

And guess what? I didn't have to offend anyone to do it.....

Am I seriously coaching you on how to properly refute/defend an argument made against Samsung?

Get your facts straight. My response to the OP was:

This goes both ways.

The response you keep referring to was not to the OP. Go ahead, check.


And in general, I'm sorry comparing iOS to Android so exposes your beloved operating system's shortcomings. It seems to really hurt you.
 
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