Phones Samsung Z Fold 2

[Aneres11]

One more annoying bug...
I have gesture navigation enabled.

Whenever I come out of an app and swipe the bottom slider to move back to the last app, it doesn't open the last open app. It opens the one that was in use before it.

This has happened since I've had the phone and is the most annoying thing for me so far. Really frustrating.

 

[blairh]

While in theory yes there is an extra risk the reality is it's very small and largely unfounded

We all lived with folding flip/folding phones for a decade before current crop of slab formats. I do not recall all this kerfuffle don't take it to the beach, be careful of this and that etc, the most common damage seem to be people dropping thier Razr's down the loo LOL


This concern to me is largely driven by fear because of the value/cost of the product and not actual real risk.

I mean, no? I would have zero faith using the Fold 1/2 at the beach given the repeated warnings about sand with the device. I'm someone who lies on a towel at times and uses my smartphone. Sand will inevitably end up on the screen. With a slab smartphone that really isn't an issue. I just wipe it away. With the Fold, it is.

In due time, I suspect these foldables will be able to handle the elements better. But I do think that any concerns about damage due to water, dust, sand, etc, is completely valid.

 

[The Game 161]

One question I have how is notifications that come from the top how do you disable that?

 

[SteveJUAE]

I mean, no? I would have zero faith using the Fold 1/2 at the beach given the repeated warnings about sand with the device. I'm someone who lies on a towel at times and uses my smartphone. Sand will inevitably end up on the screen. With a slab smartphone that really isn't an issue. I just wipe it away. With the Fold, it is.

In due time, I suspect these foldables will be able to handle the elements better. But I do think that any concerns about damage due to water, dust, sand, etc, is completely valid.

I am not denying there is a concern just trying to place a sense of reality

Where were all these legitimate concerns vocalized say between 2000 and 2016 when most phones were equally vulnerable and no IP rating etc or poor scratch resistance

Did we here such warnings for 16 years ?

Yes be cautious under certain circumstances but most of us have managed for the last +20 years without having to overly state the obvious

If you have extreme scenarios you encounter then sure maybe the Fold is not for you but that would equally been true for many phones for many years

 

[The Game 161]

The case where it may cause issue is the beach but that's a once a year thing for me and now with two hoildays cancelled I won't be going near a beach anytime soon...

 

[blairh]

I am not denying there is a concern just trying to place a sense of reality

Where were all these legitimate concerns vocalized say between 2000 and 2016 when most phones were equally vulnerable and no IP rating etc or poor scratch resistance

Did we here such warnings for 16 years ?

Yes be cautious under certain circumstances but most of us have managed for the last +20 years without having to overly state the obvious

If you have extreme scenarios you encounter then sure maybe the Fold is not for you but that would equally been true for many phones for many years

They are two totally different things. The issue with the Fold series it that the inner screen is more fragile than a typical glass screen found on any other smartphone. Plus the Fold features a hinge that can be damaged from sand and the like. No hinge on other smartphones. So to say it wasn't an issue with previous smartphones is entirely irrelevant. We are talking about a completely new form factor with the Fold and with it comes unique dangers for it to overcome.

 

[Aneres11]

I can't say I'm enjoying typing on this phone too much. Its tricky on the inside screen no matter which keyboard I use. And its also very tricky on the outer display due to its narrowness. Not sure if I can put up with all these errors consistently.

I haven't found a groove yet but hoping I can with more time.

 

[The Game 161]

I can't say I'm enjoying typing on this phone too much. Its tricky on the inside screen no matter which keyboard I use. And its also very tricky on the outer display due to its narrowness. Not sure if I can put up with all these errors consistently.

I haven't found a groove yet but hoping I can with more time.

SwiftKey is great on main display I can type very quickly with no issues. Agree on front display but SwiftKey makes it easier

 

[Aneres11]

SwiftKey is great on main display I can type very quickly with no issues. Agree on front display but SwiftKey makes it easier

I think swiftkey is horrible on the main display. The Samsung split keyboard is probably the best option for me on main but I still don't love it really.

 

[The Game 161]

I think swiftkey is horrible on the main display. The Samsung split keyboard is probably the best option for me on main but I still don't love it really.

I think it's great as it's big enough where you don't make errors on it. That's all that's important on a keyboard for me. Can't stand spilt keyboard just makes it harder to type

 

[Aneres11]

I think it's great as it's big enough where you don't make errors on it. That's all that's important on a keyboard for me. Can't stand spilt keyboard just makes it harder to type

Yeah but it also depends on hand size. A keyboard with keys in the middle of the screen is difficult for me to comfortably type on and navigate my thumbs around. This is why its different for each person.

I do think this will end up being the deal breaker for me.
If the outside screen was wider then I would just reply to stuff using that and use the inside for all my media and web browsing.

But maybe V3.

 

[The Game 161]

Yeah but it also depends on hand size. A keyboard with keys in the middle of the screen is difficult for me to comfortably type on and navigate my thumbs around. This is why its different for each person.

I do think this will end up being the deal breaker for me.
If the outside screen was wider then I would just reply to stuff using that and use the inside for all my media and web browsing.

But maybe V3.

Have to think the screen will only get bigger, wider on front and maybe up to 7.9 on inner display.

 

[blairh]

Have to think the screen will only get bigger, wider on front and maybe up to 7.9 on inner display.

Absolutely. I think they will hit 6.5” outside and 7.9” inside in version 3.0

 

[Fernandez21]

I tried playing with the fonts, but that really only affects system fonts so many apps/web pages still have tiny text.

Not sure about your other apps, but in the Samsung web browser you can increase the font size in settings.

 

[Aneres11]

Spotify is an absolute buggy mess on this phone. This is the third time tonight where this has just frozen on me when trying to open the app. Sick of it doing it. No other app seems to have the same problem.

 

[Ralfi]

Absolutely. I think they will hit 6.5” outside and 7.9” inside in version 3.0

Yeah they need to widen that front screen & flatten the whole device for sure. You could tell typing was going to be frustrating on the outside. I’m surprised the inside‘s also annoying. Maybe if they let you shrink the size of the keyboard like you can on the iPad it’d be better? (Although the shrunken down size Apple went with is too small)...

Spotify is an absolute buggy mess on this phone. This is the third time tonight where this has just frozen on me when trying to open the app. Sick of it doing it. No other app seems to have the same problem.

You’d think Spotify would fix this soon. Hopefully sooner than it took them to stabilise their App in CarPlay!...

 

[Bkdodger]

I think swiftkey is horrible on the main display. The Samsung split keyboard is probably the best option for me on main but I still don't love it really.

I'm just trying to catch up on this thread so apologies if I missed some stuff.. I think Samsung keyboard is not great at all... Using SwiftKey in split keyboard mode much better....

 

[Ralfi]

Using SwiftKey in split keyboard mode much better....

That sounds like it’d go against the purpose of SwiftKey - to quickly swipe over short distances between letters to save time when typing?

 

[Bkdodger]

So I've had the phone since the 16th and totally enjoying... Just waiting on skins.. and cases like everyone else who owns this phone..

I saw a few post on Samsung Care +.. I was able to add it after purchase through the members app and go to benefits area.. first few times I was getting error that my IMEI was not Australian or something.. Then it finally clicked in one morning...

 

[Bkdodger]

That sounds like it’d go against the purpose of SwiftKey - to quickly swipe over short distances between letters to save time when typing?

It's actually perfect when you are full screen mode two handed... It's prediction is much better than Samsung... Plus I use my email across devices which helps that tremendously...

 

[Ralfi]

It's actually perfect when you are full screen mode two handed... It's prediction is much better than Samsung... Plus I use my email across devices which helps that tremendously...

Oh ok, so you use it traditionally with no swipe gesture?

Whenever I see Swiftkey, I just presume the swipe is being used.
☺️

 

[Bkdodger]

Oh ok, so you use it traditionally with no swipe gesture?

Whenever I see Swiftkey, I just presume the swipe is being used.

Yeah I agree with ya... Most helpful when you using swipe but I feel like the keyboard is good as well using it normally... This phone screen with the crease takes a bit away from the swipe...

 

[SteveJUAE]

They are two totally different things. The issue with the Fold series it that the inner screen is more fragile than a typical glass screen found on any other smartphone. Plus the Fold features a hinge that can be damaged from sand and the like. No hinge on other smartphones. So to say it wasn't an issue with previous smartphones is entirely irrelevant. We are talking about a completely new form factor with the Fold and with it comes unique dangers for it to overcome.

I have not said it was not an issue I am observing that for many years particularly between 2000 and 2010 when folding and flip phones were the rage with delicate hinges and strange movements on some models etc etc no one was shouting from the roof tops

Take a look at the complexity of these early 2005 phones with many points of vulnerability, including removable batteries, complex hinges and holes everywhere

The JasJar was a $1000 phone in 2005 that I took to the beach everyday for lunch in UAE, I just used caution the same as everyone else.

The same for most phones between 2010 and 2016 most had no dust or water resistance and low or poor scratch resistance, where's the vocalization on my phone is banned for beach use etc

The simple fact is we follow the same good practices we did for many years

If you feel you are all of a sudden your unable to cosset your phone the same as you had done previously then maybe the Fold is not for you

I appreciate in the last 4 years the bar has been raised on IP ratings etc and we could say the Fold/Flip is a step backwards but in many other respects it's a step forwards

Like many products we buy select then one that suits your user case and preference

The point is, it's just more topical now to point somethings out that were simply stating the obvious previously

 

[blairh]

I have not said it was not an issue I am observing that for many years particularly between 2000 and 2010 when folding and flip phones were the rage with delicate hinges and strange movements on some models etc etc no one was shouting from the roof tops

Take a look at the complexity of these early 2005 phones with many points of vulnerability, including removable batteries, complex hinges and holes everywhere

The JasJar was a $1000 phone in 2005 that I took to the beach everyday for lunch in UAE, I just used caution the same as everyone else.

The same for most phones between 2010 and 2016 most had no dust or water resistance and low or poor scratch resistance, where's the vocalization on my phone is banned for beach use etc

The simple fact is we follow the same good practices we did for many years

If you feel you are all of a sudden your unable to cosset your phone the same as you had done previously then maybe the Fold is not for you

I appreciate in the last 4 years the bar has been raised on IP ratings etc and we could say the Fold/Flip is a step backwards but in many other respects it's a step forwards

Like many products we buy select then one that suits your user case and preference

The point is, it's just more topical now to point somethings out that were simply stating the obvious previously

The modern smartphone essentially was not invented until the iPhone in 2007. Before then, the only widely used smart device was a Blackberry. And that series had a physical keyboard and a small screen.

I will say it again, no other previous smartphone has been as vulnerable to the elements as the Fold series. You either agree or disagree. That's your choice.

This really has nothing to do with 'good practices'. I keep harping on the beach example as I believe the sand warning comes both on the screen plastic and also a warning during the booting process. If I recall correctly.

There is nothing I can do in my normal usage that would allow me to use the Fold freely on a beach with the exception (of course) of using a pouch the entire time.

This will be an issue for some, and not so much for others. And I get that. But please stop this narrative you keep pushing that the Fold does not provide new and unique issues for smartphone owners. Again, there is nothing from the past that properly compares to it when you factor in both the hinge and the very sensitive inner screen.

 

[Fernandez21]

Absolutely. I think they will hit 6.5” outside and 7.9” inside in version 3.0

They should keep it the same size, but fold along the short side and not long side. It would make the outer display slightly shorter and slightly wider, and when you open it you would be in landscape mode which works much better with android apps in tablet mode.

They should do this along with making it thinner and making close flat.