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Ralfi

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Yeah I agree with ya... Most helpful when you using swipe but I feel like the keyboard is good as well using it normally... This phone screen with the crease takes a bit away from the swipe...
That’s interesting, as no one’s mentioned that aspect of the crease when swipe-typing.

Does the grippy screen protector also prevent efficient use of swipe typing?
 

Bkdodger

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That’s interesting, as no one’s mentioned that aspect of the crease when swipe-typing.

Does the grippy screen protector also prevent efficient use of swipe typing?

It’s not too bad I’d love not to have protector but I know best leave it on ...size of keyboard gives you more real estate for swipe which I feel throws off some of the word predictions
 
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Ralfi

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It’s not too bad I’d love not to have protector but I know best leave it on ...size of keyboard gives you more real estate for swipe which I feel throws off some of the word predictions
I get this, hence why I’d like a choice of swipe-enabled keyboard sizes on my tablet as the standard (non-swipe) KB is too large to swipe accurately (as you mention above), but the only swipe-enabled keyboard size is too small. The sweet spot is in between imo.
 

Bkdodger

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I get this, hence why I’d like a choice of swipe-enabled keyboard sizes on my tablet as the standard (non-swipe) KB is too large to swipe accurately (as you mention above), but the only swipe-enabled keyboard size is too small. The sweet spot is in between imo.
I can go one hand mode or floating and resize with SwiftKey.. Good choices.. I wish it was that good on iOS just not the same.. I stick to Apple stock
 

Awesomesince86

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I didn't try Swiftkey when I had the Fold, but I tried Gboard and it was a mess. Didn't scale properly and took up half the screen. I didn't find the split keyboard from Samsung to be terrible other than the text prediction. I'm sure it's something that would be easy enough to get used to over time.
 

Bkdodger

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I didn't try Swiftkey when I had the Fold, but I tried Gboard and it was a mess. Didn't scale properly and took up half the screen. I didn't find the split keyboard from Samsung to be terrible other than the text prediction. I'm sure it's something that would be easy enough to get used to over time.
Agree.... Gboard was not good... My only complaint with Samsung keyboard is the prediction is no lt good for me...
 

SteveJUAE

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The modern smartphone essentially was not invented until the iPhone in 2007. Before then, the only widely used smart device was a Blackberry. And that series had a physical keyboard and a small screen.

I will say it again, no other previous smartphone has been as vulnerable to the elements as the Fold series. You either agree or disagree. That's your choice.

This really has nothing to do with 'good practices'. I keep harping on the beach example as I believe the sand warning comes both on the screen plastic and also a warning during the booting process. If I recall correctly.

There is nothing I can do in my normal usage that would allow me to use the Fold freely on a beach with the exception (of course) of using a pouch the entire time.

This will be an issue for some, and not so much for others. And I get that. But please stop this narrative you keep pushing that the Fold does not provide new and unique issues for smartphone owners. Again, there is nothing from the past that properly compares to it when you factor in both the hinge and the very sensitive inner screen.
Sorry the current accepted slab type format came along in 2007 that does not mean there were not others preceding it and certainly others before Iphone eg HTC and LG.

I understand you are being more cautious than others but most exercise reasonable practices when using their phones in extreme cases

If you actually follow OEM's recommendations, most phones are not even suitable for laying on a towel exposed to the sun:

"Use devices where the ambient temperature is between 0º and 35º C (32º to 95º F)" and "Store the device where the temperature is between -20º and 45º C (-4º to 113º F)"

This shows that most should already be using good measures

I get it your risk adverse and that's fine don't by the Fold, others who are less so and follow reasonable steps can still enjoy their Folds

Unless you want a Phd in stating the obvious, most people know how to take care of their products accordingly and have always done so, no narrative, just simple fact.

We seem to disagree on this so lets accept that and move on :)
 
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Aneres11

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They should keep it the same size, but fold along the short side and not long side. It would make the outer display slightly shorter and slightly wider, and when you open it you would be in landscape mode which works much better with android apps in tablet mode.

They should do this along with making it thinner and making close flat.

Ha this is actually a great idea. I just turned my phone that way and imagined being able to fold it and it would be so much better like you say. Maybe in the next version they will do that. Or just make it bigger still hah.
 
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Ralfi

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Ha this is actually a great idea. I just turned my phone that way and imagined being able to fold it and it would be so much better like you say. Maybe in the next version they will do that. Or just make it bigger still hah.
? The way I’m picturing it, it would be ridiculous. Maybe I’m not seeing it as it’s been envisioned ?
 

Aneres11

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? The way I’m picturing it, it would be ridiculous. Maybe I’m not seeing it as it’s been envisioned ?

Why? Turn it to landscape (opened) and imagine the fold going that way instead. Slightly shorter, but at least the outside screen is then wider and the phone is set in landscape when opened for apps that require it. YT etc.
 
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Fernandez21

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I'm using gboard and it works great for me. I use two thumb typing when open and do swipe when closed. Only complaint is the punctuation buttons change when open.
 

Ralfi

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Why? Turn it to landscape (opened) and imagine the fold going that way instead. Slightly shorter, but at least the outside screen is then wider and the phone is set in landscape when opened for apps that require it. YT etc.
Oh I get it now! Yep, that’ll achieve the same goal as what I’ve been saying also - to shorten the thing & widen the front screen. It may end up slightly wider than ideal for one handed use (?), but I think it’ll be better overall. It’ll resemble the Windows Duo more, but be a much more practical & have a single screen.
 

Fernandez21

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Oh I get it now! Yep, that’ll achieve the same goal as what I’ve been saying also - to shorten the thing & widen the front screen. It may end up slightly wider than ideal for one handed use (?), but I think it’ll be better overall. It’ll resemble the Windows Duo more, but be a much more practical & have a single screen.
Another bonus I just though of is when doing flex mode, the 2 half's would be slightly taller, meaning larger videos with smaller black bars on the side.
 

Aneres11

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Another bonus I just though of is when doing flex mode, the 2 half's would be slightly taller, meaning larger videos with smaller black bars on the side.
Get this man into Samsung HQ at once! :D
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This seems like the best case option for protection I would say
Nice. Good price too.
 
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SteveJUAE

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Why didn't I think of this? This completely solves my auto-rotate issue. I forgot about Bixby Routines.

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Yep obvious when the penny drops :)

Done the same and I like that you even get a quick floatie button to switch off if you wish

Had not bothered with Bixby routines until this, nice one :cool:
 

spinedoc77

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SwiftKey is great on main display I can type very quickly with no issues. Agree on front display but SwiftKey makes it easier

I want to like swiftkey but have 2 issues, 1) the keyboard is huge, much larger than gboard and Samsung and 2) swiftkey doesn't retain my most used phrases such as my email addresses. I hate having to type my email addresses in every single time and with the Samsung keyboard after 2 letters it pops up. If these issues can be changed in settings I would use swiftkey more often, I just haven't tinkered much with the settings yet.
 

Bkdodger

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I want to like swiftkey but have 2 issues, 1) the keyboard is huge, much larger than gboard and Samsung and 2) swiftkey doesn't retain my most used phrases such as my email addresses. I hate having to type my email addresses in every single time and with the Samsung keyboard after 2 letters it pops up. If these issues can be changed in settings I would use swiftkey more often, I just haven't tinkered much with the settings yet.
You can resize under modes...
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spinedoc77

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You can resize under modes...
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Serves me right for not looking, that's actually a really great way to resize. Instead of having lets say small and large you can custom resize it to whatever you want. Ok that's one down, is there any way to assign some sort of shortcut, like lets say typing in the first 2 letters of my email would bring up the option to fully enter it in?
 

Bkdodger

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Serves me right for not looking, that's actually a really great way to resize. Instead of having lets say small and large you can custom resize it to whatever you want. Ok that's one down, is there any way to assign some sort of shortcut, like lets say typing in the first 2 letters of my email would bring up the option to fully enter it in?
Yes hit the clipboard and add a new clip.... Tap it when you need it

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Aneres11

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I'm going to see how I get on with the phone this week but if I'm honest I'm leaning towards selling it on.

The typing experience is very frustrating for me along with that outside screen just being too narrow. It's not just that the typing is challenging for quick replies, but a lot of apps are cut off on the screen like Instagram which is just annoying.

Shame as I love it opened, but I could get the same experience from an iPad mini and not have to deal with the outside display. I'll see how I go this week though.
 

Bkdodger

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I'm going to see how I get on with the phone this week but if I'm honest I'm leaning towards selling it on.

The typing experience is very frustrating for me along with that outside screen just being too narrow. It's not just that the typing is challenging for quick replies, but a lot of apps are cut off on the screen like Instagram which is just annoying.

Shame as I love it opened, but I could get the same experience from an iPad mini and not have to deal with the outside display. I'll see how I go this week though.
Instagram not as bad as my Giants

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