Its means more people bought cheap phones. Yes Apple sold more phones and made even more profits but as a buying world population more people bought other brands. This is why market share means nothing. If they did a market share of all the phones that retail above USD 600 the numbers would look vastly different.
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Another stat for everyone who always barks about market share.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-industrys-profits-soars-to-92-1436727458
For any business, this is the most important statistic.
The number simply humiliates every other participant in the industry.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-industrys-profits-soars-to-92-1436727458
For any business, this is the most important statistic.
The number simply humiliates every other participant in the industry.
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For consumers, all that extra large profit is simply extra cost out of their pockets. Otherwise it's meaningless to them since most of it's not actively used for anything.
Perhaps if Apple paid taxes on all those profits, or gave most of it back to investors, or re-invested almost all of those billions into R&D, or heck... donated some of it towards science education or the United Way or to create mobile solar powered classrooms in third world countries like Samsung does... or gave some of the profit back in the form of free OS agnostic services like Google does... it might have meaning to the average consumer somewhere in the world.
But Apple does little of those things, and the majority of its extra profit just sits overseas piling up. Not very meaningful to anyone who's not a hardcore fan or stockholder.
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Luckily for Samsung their foundry is killing it right now, whether they achieved the level of process tech through research or industrial espionage is another story altogether. As long as Samsung's foundry continues to take orders from Apple they will be perfectly fine from a profit standpoint.
They are losing their standing as premier "apple-esque" android manufacturer but only just. They still have that standing and they can get it back if they decide to design a phone with more than 4 hrs of battery life. I'm no fan of samsung but this reeks of the exact same kind of doom-and-gloom FUD we hear about Apple.
Samsung is doing great as a whole, their mobile division has tripped up a bit, but it still is the most profitable android OEM and they still ship tens of millions of phones. Few other OEMs can even claim to compete.
They are losing their standing as premier "apple-esque" android manufacturer but only just. They still have that standing and they can get it back if they decide to design a phone with more than 4 hrs of battery life. I'm no fan of samsung but this reeks of the exact same kind of doom-and-gloom FUD we hear about Apple.
Samsung is doing great as a whole, their mobile division has tripped up a bit, but it still is the most profitable android OEM and they still ship tens of millions of phones. Few other OEMs can even claim to compete.
Apple do have an education program and have this year donated at least $50m to support a scheme trying to get people into learning about tech. They donate significant amounts to the AIDS Foundation too. There are more instances.
They don't pay anywhere near enough tax though. We have to accuse all big companies of being like that. Another major offender is Amazon.
True, they're getting better under Cook.
Compared to their profit margin though, it's still a drop in the bucket.
Some (undoubtedly young) posters claim money is all there is, but corporations have more responsibility than just making money. They need to be good neighbors and citizens as well.
Apple do alot of things for charity. In fact I would say they are one of the few decent American companies. In a country with Larry Page, Donald Trump et al Apple is mother Theresa.
In anycase this is another discussion.
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In anycase this is another discussion.
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What does apple charitable donations have to do with Samsung's decline in mobile sales/shipments.
Absolutely nothing.
Samsung's looks to be in more trouble:
Huge lines for iPhone 6s launch in Korea:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...heir-hands-on-the-new-iphone-6s-in-korea.html
Google and Samsung on a global scale do a lot, from creating solar powered classrooms in many parts of the African continent to the helping NGOs, with connecting people to good causes...how do I know? Because I work for digital marketing agency, and one of my clients was a guy trying to get an NGO up.
Then there is also the free training Google give agencies to help small businesses...I could go on and on, Google are highly active down here.
Not quite sure what Apple do, at least in South Africa, India,and other BRICS nations, nevermind other countries that Google are in.
So according to this the LG V10 is having a hard time in S.Korea, but Samsung Note5 is enjoying good sales:
www.gsmarena.com/sales_reports_suggest_the_lg_v10_isnt_doing_very_well_on_its_home_turf-news-14662.php
Seems to be just in S.Korea though.
www.gsmarena.com/sales_reports_suggest_the_lg_v10_isnt_doing_very_well_on_its_home_turf-news-14662.php
Seems to be just in S.Korea though.
I don't think Samsung is in any major trouble. But the mobile division is definitely not enjoying success as it used to.
Somewhat surprised the iPhone seems to be selling well in korea, considering how Samsung is basically a government institution there. My relatives still preach that Samsung is the end all be all of companies.
Somewhat surprised the iPhone seems to be selling well in korea, considering how Samsung is basically a government institution there. My relatives still preach that Samsung is the end all be all of companies.
It always surprises me how much utter glee and happiness there is when an Apple competitor does badly. Are people really that dumb to not realize the incredible benefit of competition. The vast majority of today's iPhone features would not exist today if it wasn't for competition.
I don't particularly like Samsung phones myself, but I can see that the competition they provide has been nothing but invaluable to companies like Apple.
I don't particularly like Samsung phones myself, but I can see that the competition they provide has been nothing but invaluable to companies like Apple.
Its almost the 'Macrumors Way' WRT the glee and happiness when an Apple competitor is in a difficult position, you get guys who are not even remotely interested in a competitor/Android but are quick to post topics and make blanket statements.
The interesting thing is that when Samsung or Google does something e.g. make a phone with a larger display, multi window multitasking, SPen, Widgets, Notification bar etc... You will get guys who come here and crap on it all...then a few years later Apple do the same, and suddenly these things are innovations and so on.
On the other hand, if Samsung or Google do something Apple had already done, its "copying" and they are "desperate" and so on, had a good laugh at a topic WRT Force Touch being done by Samsung, almost as if only Apple should do it, people not thinking long term.
Ah well, as I said, its the Macrumors Way.
Of course not. How you choose companies to do business with is entirely up to you.
Yeah, I couldn't believe the vast numbers of utter morons in that thread about the HTC A9 copying Apple. It's kind of odd when the owners of Macrumors, or at least the guys in charge of news, troll their own forums.
Too bad I don't make my buying choices based on how much profit a company makes. If a company makes outrageous profits....then that only points to being overcharged if i buy from them.
I don't base my buying choices based in a dip in sales either for that matter. I know that company is going to try harder and produce better products.
I make my buying choices based products that meet my needs and uses.
I don't base my buying choices based in a dip in sales either for that matter. I know that company is going to try harder and produce better products.
I make my buying choices based products that meet my needs and uses.
Doesn't matter why you buy what you buy to anyone but yourself.
However you did buy an iPhone adding to apples profits, and you weren't the only one.
The Koreans Are going crazy for the iPhone 6s/plus.
There is an equal amount of glee going the other way too on Mac Rumors. I don't get it either.
I found the HTC A9 to be more tragic than taking offence at it. Having owned quite a few HTC's over the years I felt it was sad what they did with the A9. It doesn't take too much to design a handset that looks a bit different and HTC have had their own design identity. I suppose it's a reflection of where they have slipped to in recent years but also demonstrated Apples influence on the market. I don't get why Apple Fanboys get offended by it though. It's not affecting Apple in the slightest.
They need to go back to roots - their fame started with Galaxy line that made iPhone look like crappy overpriced toy now they are as overpriced as Apple for usually worse hardware and chasing their own gimmicks like rounded screen.
Indeed, neither do I. I'm not an Apple or Samsung shareholder.
Funny thing, profit was barely if ever a subject of topic in the pre-iPhone days. It was all about what the devices could do, their functionality, productivity and how far we could push the hardware, such awesome times
If one manufacturer did something, you looked forward to how the other will do it, all this pure and utter BS of who copied who didn't really exist.
The whole profit argument came in when the iPhone came and people with iPhones had no other argument other than it sold well and brought Apple profit, as functionality wise it was/is limited vs. competition.
I know as an iPad owner, there really isn't much inspiring in iOS, unless you Jailbreak, there is still so much limitation, sales is mostly the only thing I can talk about vs. a Galaxy Note10.1, Pixel C or Surface, as with those there is endless tweaking and customisation I can do and share with others.
So let me ask you a question then. You seem to take glee and enjoyment posting as much negative information concerning Samsung. Why is that? Why are you so obsessed with posting Samsung's perceived failures?Doesn't matter why you buy what you buy to anyone but yourself.
However you did buy an iPhone adding to apples profits, and you weren't the only one.
The Koreans Are going crazy for the iPhone 6s/plus.
Don't try to deny it. All the regulars here on MR has seen it numerous times.
Oh another question if you will. Why is Apple's insane profits such a bragging point for you? Are you a shareholder?
Oh and yes I have an 6s Plus. It is a very nice phone. I also have a Note 5 that is pretty much my daily driver......so what? I look forward to getting a Nexus 6P as well.
I don't have a vested interest in the Apple or Samsung or how well or not well they do. I just care about the products they deliver. I don't associate either company or their products with my self identity or self worth.
It is not an emotional decision decision which company i choose to buy from.
Let's not pick on apple here as they pay as much tax as they have to as any other fortune 50 and give as much back to investors as the next fortune 50; and have their own corporate gift programs even if it isn't funding doctors overseas. I have no clue about google I've never been at the receiving end of their largesse.
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