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Wrong?

Synthetic benchmarks are no greater than the numbers genenetated in their scripted usage scenarios. Period.

Cool, and yet when I joined the forum to talk about real world use vs synthetic benchmarks and placebo effects you threw an insult at me and this thread got locked. Merry Christmas. Stay real.
 
Apparently, tis the season to over-charge for a $15 product. Ouch!! A m+b key adapter can be delivered for less than $10 on ebay. Amazon has rebadged Lycom cards for $23 delivered with prime.

Heat sinks & thermal tape should be under $10 for those needing thermal assurance.

Care to share the link for the heatsinks you used in your picture?

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This? http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/3pcs-1-s...805625?hash=item3ce0c159f9:g:XnQAAOxyi-ZTYn2v

Cheers
 
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Finally…

what counts at the end - is nothing but everyone´s very personal "real world Benchmark" = your real, daily personal workflow.
Everyone has to judge for himself if there is need or not for this and that upgrade…
and apart of that, there are always enthusiasts being fascinated by maxing out .
 
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Finally…

what counts at the end - is nothing but everyone´s very personal "real world Benchmark" = your real, daily personal workflow.
Everyone has to judge for himself if there is need or not for this and that upgrade…
and apart of that, there are always enthusiasts being fascinated by maxing out .

Thanks for your vote on Grounded Enthusiasm.

FWIW.. 1560 MB/s writes/reads in slot #2 on OSX with a SSUBX is about the fastest reported speeds on the platform.

Ill pass on some links for heatsinks later today.
 
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For those of us who may be on the verge of setting up a (512mb) PCIe Blade SSD home brew fusion drive, is there any benefit to going with the sm951 over the SSUBX (apple pull) in terms of fusion compatibility?

I currently have a slot 2 Apricorn Solo w/ an 850pro partitioned into two, with half going to a 4TB fusion drive and the other half used as a El Capitan boot/repair disk. I'd like to boost this up to the amazing 1400mb/s as I've seen users getting . I'm concerned what may happen to a fusion drive on a cold boot where the blade is slow to be recognized. Anyone try slapping a PCIe blade ssd into a home made fusion drive?

Huge thanks go out to the original poster and for the many contributions that continue to make this thread the bible of cMP SSD upgrades!

The devices are near identical except for manual trim support for the SM951. um not aware of any fusion drive issues with trim.
 
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Hi guys, longtime member here but strangely had to create a new account, lost password blabla..

Anyhoo, am hotrodding my 4,1 octo and would like to know which card I should use with this OWC blade and what kind of perfo I can expect with that setup. Cheers!

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Hi guys, longtime member here but strangely had to create a new account, lost password blabla..

Anyhoo, am hotrodding my 4,1 octo and would like to know which card I should use with this OWC blade and what kind of perfo I can expect with that setup. Cheers!

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That appears to be an OWC Auro Pro Sata 6G SSD mounted in a Sintech blade adapter that is masked by the tape. IMO, its a 2012 sandforce drive that you should avoid as they are known to have too many issues.

Long story short, its not a fast PCIE ssd.
 
Well its the same blade used on OWC's Accelsior pcie card so there is a bridge but since they dont sell it oem I have to find out which adapter it is..
 

Nope. This allows to connect M.2 SSD to MBA 2012 specific mSATA port.
I should add "...for MBA 2012 SSD" in my previous post.

For your blade you'd need to find an adapter with SATA to PCIe bridge chip. And AFAIK no one except OWC doesn't make one for MBA 2012 specific mSATA connector because it doesn't make sense. Not to mention that these blades are based on old crappy SF controller.
 
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Txs 666sheep. Grr. Thought I could rig something nice for cheap..
I'll write OWC to see if they have old empty accelsior card avail..
 
Have you considered Quickbench? It's my benchmark app of choice. Your numbers look correct after adjusting the settings in BlackMagic. With a 512 SSUBX on Quickbench, I'm achieving 1576.3 MB/S reads and 1574.9 MB/S Writes in Quickbench, some of the highest numbers reported for the SSUBX.


Quick bench 4.0 is one of the few benchmark apps available for OS/X that exposes small file size performance for the platform. Intech Software has been around since the PowerPC days, offering free version upgrades since 1.0 and in recent years has expanded Quickbench to the Windows x86 platform. With the holidays around the corner, why not treat yourself to a new benchmarking app and support a small developer at the same time. Platform bundles for OS/X and Windows are on-sale for a limited time at $14.99 or $24.99 for OS/X and windows.

:apple: I have no affiliation with Intech other than being a programmer and purchasing their tools.

Thanks.
Yes, I remember the company. They've been in the Mac tools business for a very long time!
I'll definitely check it out. I'd updated my AJA System Test app. The Update is very nice & clean,
and free. LOL
 
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Wrong. I have thoroughly benched both operating systems and previously posted my results on this forum. OSX is slower with PCIE SSDs. Even the much loved SM951 gets around 100MB/s less read performance in a cMP than it does under Windows on the same machine. The average score posted on this forum is around 1400MB/s. Under Windows it's consistently closer to the 1550MB/s limit of the PCIE 2.0 x4 lane configuration.

What do you think is holding the cMP back from taking full advantage and can users do anything about it?
 
Any with standard pinouts. Apple isn't standard.

Well, OWC answered and the mSata card isnt compato. The only one that works is an empty Accelsior E2 for 144$! Guess, I'll keep the Aura blade for USB3 duties (Intatech pcie card) and get what OP has graciously posted on the 1st page :) Txs & sorry if I slightly side-tracked the thread..
 
Lean & Mean! Thanks for the update.

Cheers / Merry Christmas
Was using AJA System tools when I had a 2.5 SSD,
before Black Magic. Was an earlier version that didn't see the SM951.
SoyCaptain recommended AJA to me after we got Black Magic working on my setup.
Figured he wasn't recommending my old version, so I checked and there was an update.
So, he deserves some credit. LOL Merry Christmas! :)
 
What do you think is holding the cMP back from taking full advantage and can users do anything about it?

Not much. To see a difference moving from a SATA3 SSD to a PCIE SSD, you would have to be regularly loading or moving files larger than 560 MBs. Even Samsung's packaging for the 950 Pro says on the box 'Future Technology Today' because they openly admit it will be some time before the mainstream will be able to take advantage of it.

If you read the various specialist tech websites (such as the link provided on the previous page) you will note that booting operating systems or loading multi gigabyte games with multi million dollar budgets can't take advantage of that massive bandwidth offered by PCIE SSDs, because such software typically loads many small files into memory rather than large files that consume the bandwidth. If a virtually unknown forum hobbyist thinks they can utilise that bandwidth when the biggest companies in the computing world haven't been able to do, it's best to just recognise such opinions as anecdotes and placebo effects especially when they can't offer any video demonstrations, comparative evidence or even a screenshot of an I/O meter showing their workflow utilising that bandwidth in any meaningful or significant way.

Full advantage of such large bandwidth is currently only possible with big data like uncompressed 4K video editing workflows, or if you have SSD based servers with matching network bandwidth and large number of concurrent users, etc.

And then there's the issue of queue depths. Wow, it's so impressive on the 950 Pro but as noted at thessdreview.com almost nobody can take advantage of that now.

So PCIE SSDs are like you are being given a 300MPH car but you might never have any chance of ever driving at that speed unless you are a top race car driver.

Disclaimer : my boot drive is a PCIE SSD and I was the first person on this board to acquire multiple XP941 and SM951 drives for testing purposes.
 
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