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Zwhaler

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Funny how if the commenters criticizing or calling out OP would have simply not posted, this thread likely would have been buried by now.
 

The.Glorious.Son

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it's funny to watch people try to rationalize or read more into things than they are.

First all sales get reported the same way. It doesn't matter if they are high end or low end sales. They all get reported and recorded as a sale. Sales data doesn't mean one is better than the other or one platform is better than the other. It means one sold more than the other. They had more sales.....hence more marketshare.

Dude, no one is disputing that sales are sales. No one is disputing that sales lead directly to market share. My first post you quoted, and every one you have quoted since, was in response to some saying that if ios was so good then more people would be using it. Why can you not understand this???
 

mrex

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That is a very good point. And it would be interesting to see how much the gap in sales would close if iOS running iPhones were only compared to Android phones in sales figures. That would be quite telling wouldn't it? But that is not the case. ALL android devices are compared to all iphones and the disparity in offerings and price points is staggering. No one is arguing that android clearly outsells ios devices. But to say the reason is purely preference of android over ios and ignore all other factors? That would be pure ignorance


it cant be ever compared pricier android with ios, because there arent other choices within ios. you either buy the iphone or you dont - you cant choose between the price as you can do with android devices and that decrease the selling of pricier android phones.
 

The.Glorious.Son

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it cant be ever compared pricier android with ios, because there arent other choices within ios. you either buy the iphone or you dont - you cant choose between the price as you can do with android devices and that decrease the selling of pricier android phones.

Or decreases the sales of iPhones because they cannot afford them. It's not purely cannibalism of high end android devices.
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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LOL! I didn't belittle you buddy....I was just running out of ways to help you understand all of the points that you missed. Listen, there is nothing more I can do for you. I explained in layman terms my argument, backed it with facts, and even offered to take this to PM as any adult would do. I get it that your feelings are hurt and I'm sorry for that. I really am!

Back to what I originally said, and then tried to explain to you ten more times. To say that iOS is clearly not as good, nor popular, based on sales alone ignores all variants that go into the sales themselves.

It. Is. Not. Rocket. Science.
Really? smh
you are still trying to insult and belittle who doesn't agree with your narrow inaccurate point of view.


Show me ONCE where i said this....I think you are arguing with the wrong person. Infact I have continuously said the exact same thing. So again getting back to the saving face thing.....

Back to what I originally said, and then tried to explain to you ten more times. To say that iOS is clearly not as good, nor popular, based on sales alone ignores all variants that go into the sales themselves.

finner18
I am going to try and dumb this down for you as much as I can.

finner18
pure ignorance and you know it.

finner18
It. Is. Not. Rocket. Science.
 
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danpass

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I finally had it with iOS.

Also finally had it with the keyboard. Ever since iOS7 the keyboard changed ever so slightly that my normal typing habits kept resulting in mispellings. With my 4S on iOS6 it went from good typing then to iOS7 and 'wtf! why does this thing keep screwing up'.

Even with my 6 Plus typing was an issue.

Now I'm on a Blackberry Classic and totally back to power usage. Power usage is defined, simply, as keyboard shortcuts. Those aren't possible with virtual keyboards.

Keyboard shortcuts ARE AWESOME.



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mrex

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Or decreases the sales of iPhones because they cannot afford them. It's not purely cannibalism of high end android devices.

well, im not sure about that. i wasnt talk about phones that are almost free, but midrange prices when people dont see that they need pricier, top phones. they could buy an older iphone with less money IF they were interested in ios but then they still bought an android phone. Maybe it was still cheaper than the older iphone, but ... who knows.. i still dont believe that people choose android just because they cant afford high end phones but more or less that they know that they can have a decent phone without paying a fortune.
 

The.Glorious.Son

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Really? smh
you are still trying to insult and belittle who doesn't agree with your narrow inaccurate point of view.


Show me ONCE where i said this....I think you are arguing with the wrong person. Infact I have continuously said the exact same thing. So again getting back to the saving face thing.....



finner18


finner18


finner18

This just gets better and better LOL
 

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The.Glorious.Son

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you really don't get it do you? smh Do you just like to argue with yourself?

Brother. I concede. You win. I simply cannot waste anymore energy on you. The long list of posts tells the story. And from what I can see others at least follow my reasoning.
I hope you have a wonderful day of prosperity, joy and wellness. May God bless you and yours.
 

AZhappyjack

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it's funny to watch people try to rationalize or read more into things than they are.

First all sales get reported the same way. It doesn't matter if they are high end or low end sales. They all get reported and recorded as a sale. Sales data doesn't mean one is better than the other or one platform is better than the other. It means one sold more than the other. They had more sales.....hence more marketshare.

What's your point? Sales and market share are measurements of, well, sales and market share. That's what I said. I just added that for a lot of people, the reason android has more sales is because of price - especially to those that cannot afford $650+ for a cell phone.

I never tried to rationalize anything.

It's odd how many threads like this one ("I'm leaving iOS") attract those bent on starting wars, and the threads inevitably turn into platform pissing contests.

I use iPhone because I like it, I'm bought into the Apple ecosystem and because it works for me. Buy what you want and go start a fight somewhere else.
 

QuantumLo0p

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@OP
I feel you on this. I really miss having an actual message/email indicator light on the face, Siri doesn't work as well as Google counterpart and navigation is not as good either. The latter two are much better than they used to be but for me they are still lacking. Deal breakers for me? No, I am not going to ditch my 6+ over them but I will be revisiting those issues before I purchase my next phone.

Good luck on your move.
 
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maxsix

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It's a great thread. Hilarious actually.
This thread has hovered near the top of the most active threads for some time now. That simply proves that anyone who dare say anything complimentary about Android, triggers an emotional fear based attack by Apple devotees...those who shudder at the thought that another smartphone could possibly be better that what they've chosen.

Highly concerned about what others think of them, their self esteem is only as good as the image of the smartphone they carry. They've adopted Apple's narcissism and superiority complex, thus they look down on anyone that chooses another brand. They assume "poor" and label people accordingly.

Android isn't a posers phone. They aren't pretentious. Unlike Apple, Google, Android, Samsung, LG and the like are too busy innovating to get caught up in the vain lifestyle snobbery. They don't look down on people, they don't judge. It never comes up.

The results of their hard work is evident in the latest phones that run fast, smooth, reliably and deliver an experience second to none.

Thanks Google :D
 

mrochester

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This thread has hovered near the top of the most active threads for some time now. That simply proves that anyone who dare say anything complimentary about Android, triggers an emotional fear based attack by Apple devotees...those who shudder at the thought that another smartphone could possibly be better that what they've chosen.

Highly concerned about what others think of them, their self esteem is only as good as the image of the smartphone they carry. They've adopted Apple's narcissism and superiority complex, thus they look down on anyone that chooses another brand. They assume "poor" and label people accordingly.

Android isn't a posers phone. They aren't pretentious. Unlike Apple, Google, Android, Samsung, LG and the like are too busy innovating to get caught up in the vain lifestyle snobbery. They don't look down on people, they don't judge. It never comes up.

The results of their hard work is evident in the latest phones that run fast, smooth, reliably and deliver an experience second to none.

Thanks Google :D

I have both an iPhone 6S and a Galaxy S6 Edge+ and the iPhone definitely offers the better and more enjoyable user experience. I'm yet to witness all this so called innovation from Android OEMs actually resulting in a better device. The iPhone is still the best phone you can get.
 
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C DM

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This thread has hovered near the top of the most active threads for some time now. That simply proves that anyone who dare say anything complimentary about Android, triggers an emotional fear based attack by Apple devotees...those who shudder at the thought that another smartphone could possibly be better that what they've chosen.

Highly concerned about what others think of them, their self esteem is only as good as the image of the smartphone they carry. They've adopted Apple's narcissism and superiority complex, thus they look down on anyone that chooses another brand. They assume "poor" and label people accordingly.

Android isn't a posers phone. They aren't pretentious. Unlike Apple, Google, Android, Samsung, LG and the like are too busy innovating to get caught up in the vain lifestyle snobbery. They don't look down on people, they don't judge. It never comes up.

The results of their hard work is evident in the latest phones that run fast, smooth, reliably and deliver an experience second to none.

Thanks Google :D
Is that really what it proves? There can't be a host of other possible reasons in play, even simply like those mentioned in quite a few replies like https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/saying-goodbye-to-iphone.1958733/#post-22618033 and https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/saying-goodbye-to-iphone.1958733/page-2#post-22618337?
 

ultravisitor

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Android isn't a posers phone. They aren't pretentious. Unlike Apple, Google, Android, Samsung, LG and the like are too busy innovating to get caught up in the vain lifestyle snobbery. They don't look down on people, they don't judge. It never comes up.

This is not even true at all. I used Android from 2009 until the release of the iPhone 6s. Google has definitely looked down upon and laughed at iOS during I/O presentations. I remember it well because it was funny.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
This thread has hovered near the top of the most active threads for some time now. That simply proves that anyone who dare say anything complimentary about Android, triggers an emotional fear based attack by Apple devotees...those who shudder at the thought that another smartphone could possibly be better that what they've chosen.

Highly concerned about what others think of them, their self esteem is only as good as the image of the smartphone they carry. They've adopted Apple's narcissism and superiority complex, thus they look down on anyone that chooses another brand. They assume "poor" and label people accordingly.

Android isn't a posers phone. They aren't pretentious. Unlike Apple, Google, Android, Samsung, LG and the like are too busy innovating to get caught up in the vain lifestyle snobbery. They don't look down on people, they don't judge. It never comes up.

The results of their hard work is evident in the latest phones that run fast, smooth, reliably and deliver an experience second to none.

Thanks Google :D
What a load of hyperbole and folderol.
 

The.Glorious.Son

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Android isn't a posers phone. They aren't pretentious. Unlike Apple, Google, Android, Samsung, LG and the like are too busy innovating to get caught up in the vain lifestyle snobbery. They don't look down on people, they don't judge. It never comes up.

Now this is funny stuff. So, in the last 3 years, how many commercials have you seen from Apple calling out everything from "hipsters" to "get the iPhone for your elderly mom", to "stuck to a wall charger"? None? That's right, those were all Samsung commercials. You know, the ones that paint apple users as stuck in 2012, following the herd, etc. How about the terms isheep, sheeple, crapple, etc. Oh, right, those are part of the Apple "vain lifestyle snobbery"? No?

You want vain lifestyle snobbery? Go to Android Central and praise one single thing about an iPhone. Go to a YouTube video that dares suggest an iPhone outshines even one thing on an android device and read the comments. Hell, do the same on any BGR article comments section. If you think for one split second that a thread like this is indicative of MacRumors as a whole, or that Android users don't judge or look down on people, you either live in a bubble or your head is so far in the sand that you're oblivious to the world around you.
 

Flow39

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This thread has hovered near the top of the most active threads for some time now. That simply proves that anyone who dare say anything complimentary about Android, triggers an emotional fear based attack by Appledevotees...those who shudder at the thought that another smartphone could possibly be better that what they've chosen.

Highly concerned about what others think of them, their self esteem is only as good as the image of the smartphone they carry. They've adopted Apple's narcissism and superiority complex, thus they look down on anyone that chooses another brand. They assume "poor" and label people accordingly.

Android isn't a posers phone. They aren't pretentious. Unlike Apple, Google, Android, Samsung, LG and the like are too busy innovating to get caught up in the vain lifestyle snobbery. They don't look down on people, they don't judge. It never comes up.

The results of their hard work is evident in the latest phones that run fast, smooth, reliably and deliver an experience second to none.

Thanks Google :D
This is not even true at all. I used Android from 2009 until the release of the iPhone 6s. Google has definitely looked down upon and laughed at iOS during I/O presentations. I remember it well because it was funny.
Look at almost any Android based subreddit such as /r/androidmasterrace or even /r/android. If you even mention that you have an iPhone, your comments get down voted. You get called "pleb", "iSheep", "shill" and a whole host of other names if you even mention that Apple makes a good product or excels in an area that Android/Android phone manufacturers fall short in.

Moral of the story: it goes both ways here. Apple people can be pretentious and snobby, just as Android/Google people can be pretentious and snobby as well.
 

jimbo1mcm

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Hey All,

After much consideration i'm saying goodbye to iPhone 6S Plus and hello to Galaxy S7 Edge. Working in technology I think Apple has just been surpassed and is failing to innovate and make smart decisions. The whole "The only thing that has changed is everything" marketing was quite frankly, a joke..

Everytime I go into the Apple store and see people paying $29.99 for what should be a $9.99 cable it just makes me sick. I'm just tired of the whole deal that is Apple. Anyone else feel this way? Not saying they make bad products at all..

I'm certainly going to miss iMessages but that's about it. I'll be gaining a phone that is much more ergonomic, has a better screen,larger battery, better camera, external storage, wireless charging, etc..


Did the same thing. Sold my Iphone 6S Plus and ordered a Galaxy S7 Edge. It's really not about the money. It's about having the best and latest technology in a most efficient form. Apple has phones that are too big with really poor screen resolution. Of course the battery will last. It doesn't have to push many pixels. I'll come back if they catch up.
 

C DM

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Did the same thing. Sold my Iphone 6S Plus and ordered a Galaxy S7 Edge. It's really not about the money. It's about having the best and latest technology in a most efficient form. Apple has phones that are too big with really poor screen resolution. Of course the battery will last. It doesn't have to push many pixels. I'll come back if they catch up.
6S Plus has "really poor screen resolution"?
 
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mrochester

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Did the same thing. Sold my Iphone 6S Plus and ordered a Galaxy S7 Edge. It's really not about the money. It's about having the best and latest technology in a most efficient form. Apple has phones that are too big with really poor screen resolution. Of course the battery will last. It doesn't have to push many pixels. I'll come back if they catch up.

It's a shame that Android hinders that whole experience though. If you could get a Galaxy S7 running iOS, it would be the best of both worlds.

Given the choice is bleeding edge technology and Android or slightly lower edge technology and iOS, it's going to be iOS every time.
 
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