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Scott Forstall Reportedly Forced Out of Apple
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Yeah, until you use an iPad and flip it from portrait to landscape and find that the icon that used to be the leftmost of the second row is now the rightmost of the first.
Personally I hate organizing apps in folders because I tend to forget I even have them, I want all icons upfront and I don't mind flicking sideways between home screens, but I'd like to be able to have rows of 2 or 3 in order to keep categories of apps separated, and to reserve room for future apps in that category instead of having the whole system fall like dominoes every time I have to insert a new app.
Yes, I miss Scott Forstall...
One of the things he was responsible for was building the iPhone/iPad off of OS-X/Unix instead of Linux, because he saw that they would become much bigger things than the original iPods. He may have saved the company there.
And while anyone can make something of poor taste, it's the rich, photographic interface that to me made the Mac so much more professional than Windows. I sure hope Ive doesn't go in for more of the utter minimalism of a few black and white lines...
Best thing of all this is that OS-X and iOS are finally in the same division, so they can converge on the same code base.
One of the things he was responsible for was building the iPhone/iPad off of OS-X/Unix instead of Linux, because he saw that they would become much bigger things than the original iPods. He may have saved the company there.
And while anyone can make something of poor taste, it's the rich, photographic interface that to me made the Mac so much more professional than Windows. I sure hope Ive doesn't go in for more of the utter minimalism of a few black and white lines...
Best thing of all this is that OS-X and iOS are finally in the same division, so they can converge on the same code base.
Well how about you find out how much phone and software manufacturers are making on Android? In no context iOS is more profitable than Android.
Podcasts app is OK, ya know. Game Centre and iCal are awful, granted.
This is more about working together as a team than anything else.
This is more about working together as a team than anything else.
If you follow the profits of Android OEMs, apple makes more money from its iOS branch than the Android manufacturers make on their Android devices. Apple especially makes more on iOS than Google does from Android. Honestly though it would be interesting to see a chart of ALL combined Android profit vs iOS device profit.
Agreed. As little as I know about him, he seems to be someone who has had too much success at an early age. This can make, well, anyone too arrogant and unable to work with others. I can't imagine the ego he must have built in working with Jobs.
I can assure you that if you look at the profits of ALL Android OEMs combined, they are larger than Apple's profits from their iOS product range.
Success at an early age. Too arrogant to work with others. Passionate about focus and direction. That sounds familiar.
I'd like to see that chart or info. Samsung makes quite a bit from TVs, refrigerators, manufacturing other company's products/parts, PCs, BadaPhones, dumbPhones, toothpaste etc. so don't think their total profit is from android.
I know companies have them to protect their investment IP. If there was not a no compete clause employee X could simply take all he knows and help company X's competitor. Employee X had a job and chose to leave so why let him/her take those talents (possibly earned while at company X, causing them to put a lot of time and money into their training) to another company and possibly hurt company X? NOW if company X fires employee X why should they be able to stop them from taking their talents to another company. That's my thinking on the subject.
Im glad to see him gone.
The maps suck bad. It takes up to 2 minutes to load a sat view and a minute or so for regular maps.
No its not my connection. I get 20MB down and 18 Up on LTE.
And when they do load the images are blurry as hell and cant compare to Googles Sat view.
The maps suck bad. It takes up to 2 minutes to load a sat view and a minute or so for regular maps.
No its not my connection. I get 20MB down and 18 Up on LTE.
And when they do load the images are blurry as hell and cant compare to Googles Sat view.
Samsung alone sells more smartphones than Apple:
Add ZTE, HTC and others, and it's quite clear what makes more profit...
There isnt going to be a major iOS overhaul. Apple rarely does major overhauls and iOS doesnt need one.
The icon grid home screen works as well today as it ever did. The entire focus of iOS is apps and the home screen exists to get you from opening the device to opening the app you want as quickly as possible. For this it works perfectly well.
That said, there are other aspects of the UI where there is more room for improvement.
Notification Centre is great but there must be ways to make even more use of it I want to be able to remove specific notifications even set it so that future notifications from the same person or app no longer show in NC without having to go into settings. The little X button to clear notifications is fiddly this could be replaced with a gesture. NC could also let me replace the weather and stocks apps with some other live data feed.
The App-Switcher is another area where functionality could be improved. Why, for instance, cant I remove apps from the tray, essentially force a close, by just swiping up (like dragging items off of the dock in OSX)? With the long hold control no longer needed for removing apps from the tray it could, instead, be repurposed as a quick look function by holing an icon in the tray I could pull up a quick view of the current state of the app without needing to open it just like quick look in OSX.
Further to this, why does the tray not have a tab above it which allows me to pull it up to reveal further controls or options underneath? A double click of the home button pulls up the app tray, then you pull up on the tab to reveal quick settings access, maybe data usage stats, etc.
Spotlight in iOS could be improved. I should be able to, for example, start a Siri interaction by typing in Siri: what time is my train tomorrow? and get a response without the need to speak to it.
I also want to be able to set up some smart folders. For example, I could have a smart folder that always contains the most recent games Ive played. Another could be set up to contain the most recent apps Ive used. Maybe one specifically for a subset of apps like social media apps or shopping apps. I could have as many smart folders set up with whatever requirements I chose. This way, my most commonly used apps would always be on my first home screen.
None of these things are game changes or deal breakers. I wouldnt move to another ecosystem if iOS didnt get them. But they are all ways that I think the functionality of iOS could be improved. None are major but they could each add up to some major improvements without requiring a major overhaul which would add little value while creating confusion and forcing people to relearn much of how they currently use their iOS device.
The icon grid home screen works as well today as it ever did. The entire focus of iOS is apps and the home screen exists to get you from opening the device to opening the app you want as quickly as possible. For this it works perfectly well.
That said, there are other aspects of the UI where there is more room for improvement.
Notification Centre is great but there must be ways to make even more use of it I want to be able to remove specific notifications even set it so that future notifications from the same person or app no longer show in NC without having to go into settings. The little X button to clear notifications is fiddly this could be replaced with a gesture. NC could also let me replace the weather and stocks apps with some other live data feed.
The App-Switcher is another area where functionality could be improved. Why, for instance, cant I remove apps from the tray, essentially force a close, by just swiping up (like dragging items off of the dock in OSX)? With the long hold control no longer needed for removing apps from the tray it could, instead, be repurposed as a quick look function by holing an icon in the tray I could pull up a quick view of the current state of the app without needing to open it just like quick look in OSX.
Further to this, why does the tray not have a tab above it which allows me to pull it up to reveal further controls or options underneath? A double click of the home button pulls up the app tray, then you pull up on the tab to reveal quick settings access, maybe data usage stats, etc.
Spotlight in iOS could be improved. I should be able to, for example, start a Siri interaction by typing in Siri: what time is my train tomorrow? and get a response without the need to speak to it.
I also want to be able to set up some smart folders. For example, I could have a smart folder that always contains the most recent games Ive played. Another could be set up to contain the most recent apps Ive used. Maybe one specifically for a subset of apps like social media apps or shopping apps. I could have as many smart folders set up with whatever requirements I chose. This way, my most commonly used apps would always be on my first home screen.
None of these things are game changes or deal breakers. I wouldnt move to another ecosystem if iOS didnt get them. But they are all ways that I think the functionality of iOS could be improved. None are major but they could each add up to some major improvements without requiring a major overhaul which would add little value while creating confusion and forcing people to relearn much of how they currently use their iOS device.
Now why, oh why can't we have that for medicine. Non-competes absolutely destroy doctors' ability to practice in the best way they see fit.
Even then, the apps are only in two configurations. It doesn't take much for the mind to remember two views of the same set of apps.
Your opinion is perfectly valid but, for me, the ability to manually arrange apps on the home screen is more likely to cause ugly and confusing configurations for the majority of people.
It's being reported that Forstall was thrown under the reality distortion bus
for refusing to sign the iMapfail public apology letter.
http://www.electronista.com/article...ios.sacked.over.refusal.to.accept.maps.blame/
for refusing to sign the iMapfail public apology letter.
http://www.electronista.com/article...ios.sacked.over.refusal.to.accept.maps.blame/
Your argument is pretty common, but it's really just a way to limit compensation, not that guys at his level aren't paid well. In your scenario, it really does stack things against the employee.