If this article holds any merit, I doubt Google would want to hire a d-bag like Forstall.
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Scott Forstall Reportedly Forced Out of Apple
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Precisely.
If I sell 1000 units and make $1 on each and you sell 2 units but make $1000 on each, you've made twice the profit I've made but my unit numbers will dwarf yours.
Samsung makes a healthy profit but not nearly as much as Apple makes. The vast majority of Apple's smartphone sales are of the latest version of iPhone, the high end devices. Samsung sells plenty of GS3s and Notes but the bulk of their smartphone sales are from lower end devices which have a far smaller profit margin.
How so?
Over twice the unit shipments, and even considering Apple's large profit margins it is obvious who makes more money.
See above.
Have you got something to disprove my statement? Or prove that iOS in fact is "the most profitable mobile platform in history"?
Steve is the one that decided to rush it into iOS 6 before he passed. This was revealed awhile ago on Macrumors.
No, it isn't.
http://news.investors.com/technology/102912-631162-apple-samsung-split-smartphone-profit.htm
Apple took 59% of the profits in the smartphone market in the third quarter of this year - that's mostly pre-iPhone 5. Samsung took 47%.
Worth noting that we'd expect Apple's share of the market and profits to go up in Q4 due to iPhone 5. They'll probably account for about 65% or more.
Steve was there when Apple released the bug factory that was the initial release of Leopard. Steve was there when MobileMe was launched, and only afterwards did he ask the team why it sucks. One day anal-retentive perfectionist, the next day whipping everyone into rushing stuff out the door.
Touché, just shows how ridiculous Apple's profit margins are.
I still wouldn't call iOS "the most profitable mobile platform in history" though, it seems to currently be the one though.
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65% of the market share? Up from 15%? Highly unlikely... Unless you're still talking about profits. Actually on second though you definitely are.
iOS is clearly the most profitable mobile platform in history.
Think of it this way - the smartphone market is worth many times more today than it was worth a decade ago. I don't have the figures to hand but I'd be willing to guess that the revenue generated by the smartphone and tablet markets in the last two years is equal to or greater than the revenue of all prior years combined.
Considering how much profit iOS generates as a percentage of the last five or so years of sales, it's not hard to imagine that iOS has generated more revenue than any one other mobile platform.
As for "ridiculous margins", well, there's not a single company that wouldn't charge those margins if they could. Apple isn't overcharging people - Apple has found a way to create more value than their competitors.
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Yup - profits. I suspect they'll take 20% of units sold worldwide. And, by the way, for a company that focuses mostly on the high end, that's a HUGE percentage of units. When you add in iPad and iPod touch and the new iPad mini, iOS as a platform is vast.
We also have to consider that, while Android ships on the vast majority of smartphones, since many of those are low end handsets, they may be only smartphones in a technical sense - not being used as smartphones by their owners. Arguably, in real terms, iOS is a larger platform than Android, despite what the raw numbers suggest.
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I doubt that Ive is going to ban color. It's part of the language of icons. There are 275,000 apps for iOS, currently. Good luck coming up with 275,000 unique and easily identifiable symbols. It would be hard even for the few dozen apps made by Apple, and not everyone wants Apple-only apps on home screen #1, but if you mix those icons with colorful ones it's gonna look like ****.
Happier times:
(Ive, Schiller, Cue and Forstall on Apple Campus, 2010. Link.)
I love the new maps, Siri and skeuomorphism and so I'm sad to see Forstall go.
He was a tremendously important part of Apple's success and was well loved by Steve Jobs. But if releasing him means a more harmonious leadership team at Apple, then I guess it had to be done. Perhaps someday Forstall can come back just like Jobs did when he spent nearly 12 years in exile from Apple due to a power struggle with John Sculley.
Or he can just retire. Scott's probably got so much money that he never has to work another day in his life. No need to put stress on himself going back to work in the ultra-competitve, cutthroat tech industry.
(Ive, Schiller, Cue and Forstall on Apple Campus, 2010. Link.)
I love the new maps, Siri and skeuomorphism and so I'm sad to see Forstall go.
He was a tremendously important part of Apple's success and was well loved by Steve Jobs. But if releasing him means a more harmonious leadership team at Apple, then I guess it had to be done. Perhaps someday Forstall can come back just like Jobs did when he spent nearly 12 years in exile from Apple due to a power struggle with John Sculley.Or he can just retire. Scott's probably got so much money that he never has to work another day in his life. No need to put stress on himself going back to work in the ultra-competitve, cutthroat tech industry.
Not surprised... though I am surprised (and a bit dismayed) they didn't do it sooner! If keynote presentations are anything to go by -- his first keynote presentation pretty much sucked. He just didn't seem as 'professional' as the other players (well... neither does Cook, but Cook's great off stage)!
But it's not just Scott's on-stage performance that feels dry. iOS users have been complaining from the beginning about how ****** each new iOS seems on previous generations of hardware. I thought this was really Apple's approach -- to make your hardware feel like CRAP so you'd buy the newer stuff. In light of this recent news, it seems like the problem was coming from the top itself -- the person behind the iOS division.
And what about the current AppStore on iOS? Anybody able to use it?? Yeah, major PHAIL Scott. MAJOR PHAIL.
There are just so many other SUCK places with iOS 6... don't get me started on Maps. I think that's what ultimately got Scott the boot. He just f--d up too many times... big time. It's about time Apple shed the dead skin to make space for new talent. Whoever is to blame... they sure as hell made Android look good -- ALMOST.
But it's not just Scott's on-stage performance that feels dry. iOS users have been complaining from the beginning about how ****** each new iOS seems on previous generations of hardware. I thought this was really Apple's approach -- to make your hardware feel like CRAP so you'd buy the newer stuff. In light of this recent news, it seems like the problem was coming from the top itself -- the person behind the iOS division.
And what about the current AppStore on iOS? Anybody able to use it?? Yeah, major PHAIL Scott. MAJOR PHAIL.
There are just so many other SUCK places with iOS 6... don't get me started on Maps. I think that's what ultimately got Scott the boot. He just f--d up too many times... big time. It's about time Apple shed the dead skin to make space for new talent. Whoever is to blame... they sure as hell made Android look good -- ALMOST.
I personally attribute that to marketing and loyal following, not "creating more value" (what does that even mean?).
This is starting to sound like Apple circa late eighties all over again. Board of executives basically fire Steve Jobs over his negative influence with business operations. Today, board of executives basically fire Forstall over negative influence with business operations.
Thanks Mr. Forstall
I for one am shocked about the news of Mr. Forstall! No one is perfect but none the less you can't take away his smarts and achievements. He is the architect of iOS which is a worldwide success! He also was the architect of the app based system which we now call app stores. Those are by no means small feats. He was successful. Maybe he did have to many things under his plate for e.g. Maps and Siri and those should have gone to the Internet Services group under Eddy Cue from the beginning. I for one think he did great things. Maybe had he not had Maps and Siri under his group and just stick with iOS his success would have continued. I also believe management wanted Google out of iOS and pushed the beta out of Siri and Maps out too soon. I don't blame Mr. Forstall for that. Management as a whole messed up. Mr. Forstall just became the fall guy.
Either way I am sure that it must be hard to swallow leaving the company that you have been a part of for 15 years. Plus the NeXT years which add more of working with your co-workers. He is very smart and successful I am sure this won't be the last we here of him. I am sure he can and will be successful after Apple as well. Good Luck and Thank You Mr. Forstall!
I for one am shocked about the news of Mr. Forstall! No one is perfect but none the less you can't take away his smarts and achievements. He is the architect of iOS which is a worldwide success! He also was the architect of the app based system which we now call app stores. Those are by no means small feats. He was successful. Maybe he did have to many things under his plate for e.g. Maps and Siri and those should have gone to the Internet Services group under Eddy Cue from the beginning. I for one think he did great things. Maybe had he not had Maps and Siri under his group and just stick with iOS his success would have continued. I also believe management wanted Google out of iOS and pushed the beta out of Siri and Maps out too soon. I don't blame Mr. Forstall for that. Management as a whole messed up. Mr. Forstall just became the fall guy.
Either way I am sure that it must be hard to swallow leaving the company that you have been a part of for 15 years. Plus the NeXT years which add more of working with your co-workers. He is very smart and successful I am sure this won't be the last we here of him. I am sure he can and will be successful after Apple as well. Good Luck and Thank You Mr. Forstall!
Considering that this guy ruined maps, and allowed iOS to stagnate. I dont think google would be interested
