I would say snowing type but it’s also solid. I can really only tell when I lower the brightness. It’s hard to notice tbh and I really don’t want to exchange my device if I don’t have to. I’ll try to take some pictures tonight.
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iPhone 15 Pro Max Screen uniformity and cast
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I promise obsessing over the panel ends up not being worth it. I regret even bothering doing the returns I did because it was so much wasted time.
I’m pretty certain the G9N and G9P panels, whilst having some distinctive characteristics, are not indicative on the quality of the display. Its pretty subjective and also just luck. I had multiple phones and compared them side by side. At first I saw an obvious difference and picked one. Sat on them for a couple weeks and before returning I checked again. They were near identical because I wasn’t being so hyper-vigilant.
From someone who spent way too much time and drove themselves insane doing this, don’t check for defects. Grab a phone and accept it, as long as there’s no obvious defect I promise you’ll forget about it and get use to it.
I’m pretty certain the G9N and G9P panels, whilst having some distinctive characteristics, are not indicative on the quality of the display. Its pretty subjective and also just luck. I had multiple phones and compared them side by side. At first I saw an obvious difference and picked one. Sat on them for a couple weeks and before returning I checked again. They were near identical because I wasn’t being so hyper-vigilant.
From someone who spent way too much time and drove themselves insane doing this, don’t check for defects. Grab a phone and accept it, as long as there’s no obvious defect I promise you’ll forget about it and get use to it.
I know what you mean. But thing for me is that I cannot stop seeing the defect later on, while I might get used to them a bit. But it is true that comparing multiple phones side by side is a complicated task. You easily miss some issue in another when using other as a "reference" like you see pink tint certain part of the screen in one but not in another, then is possible some other part of the screen issue is other way around. Then counting the fact that each show different issues with different level test patterns. Then try to pick the one that you think is better but start to use it day to day normally and start noticing another issues you might not see in another unit. It is frustrating. But it I've occasionally found displays that are so good I can use normally.
However the last time with iPhone 12 Pro I started searching for a good panel was so long and stressful process, I decided to avoid going there this time and try to live with what I have. Still not sure it was a right choice.
Could be "normal", for OLED I mean. They don't do so well with levels just above 0% being worse with levels 1-5% up to say 10% or so. If you manage to take a photo of it might help to determine if that is what you see. Please mention phone settings and test pattern you use if posting photos.
I also am extremely critical with screens. It is the primary part of the device we interact with, it should be perfect. I think the real QC factor is where the screens are cut out of the main sheet / wafer, if I’m wording that correctly. I think Apple’s tolerance is higher due to the sheer volume they need to produce. I’ve had to return / re-buy at least one time every iPhone since the 11 Pro. It has gotten to the point where I pre-order two iPhones at launch to prepare for a bad screen, which is completely ridiculous.
I’ve also had every Galaxy S phone since the S9 and have gotten a perfect, uniform, no tint, minimal shift, proper white screen every time on the 1st try.
Re: my 15PM, my first two phones had the pink splotch in middle and pink shift (1st one) and red tint along the right side with horrible TT/NS and dark gray (2nd one). My current (3rd one) is the good one with slight blue shift at an angle.
My 15PM looks identical temperature wise to my 14PM. Which I also had to try 3 times to get last year.
Apple has the resources, it just doesn’t care. I feel zero remorse by returning a few until I get one worth keeping. Especially now that just the base PM is $1200. I’m not putting up with inferior screens at this price.
pics taken with an iPhone 12: NS (Max strength) and TT on.
Note: the model on the right has the protective film installed.
even this year I’ve been through some swaps. I decided to keep the one on the right (mainly because I like more the color, natural titanium). The one on the left (space black) has a pink blotch in the upper right corner, the other one, uhm, can’t tell.
In the everyday use (day/nugth, indoor) you honestly can’t notice anything.
Note: the model on the right has the protective film installed.
even this year I’ve been through some swaps. I decided to keep the one on the right (mainly because I like more the color, natural titanium). The one on the left (space black) has a pink blotch in the upper right corner, the other one, uhm, can’t tell.
In the everyday use (day/nugth, indoor) you honestly can’t notice anything.
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Yeah, the one on the right looks better. I can clearly see the red tint at the upper right on the left one.
I really hope we can wave goodbye to these screen uniformity problems when micro-led tech replaces OLED and it doesn’t come with its own “unique” set of issues.
Imagine a future where all screens were created equal!
Imagine a future where all screens were created equal!
I'm afraid this tech likely has issues too at least with mura that causes uniformity issues. There are ways to "demura" these but I doubt something like mass produced in huge amounts cheap phone panels gets too much attention during manufacturing. I mean we are talking about panel that cost likely just well under 50 bucks.
Well we won’t know what the issues are or are not until these panels are commercially available in consumer grade mobile devices.
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Same procedure as every year for me also, annoying.
I had a regular 15 Pro at launch which had very noticeable red tint on the right side and was immediately returned.
I went for a Pro Max a week ago when they were available at my local Apple Store and was happy that it seemed i got good one, at first glance. No extreme tint when powering on for the first time and i did some grey uniformity tests which showed very good results and usually go hand in hand with tinting on other colors.
But after some more time with the phone i noticed that i also got a brighter/cooler bottom half screen, whilst the top is warmer, especially the top right, like others here have already shown.
I still might keep it, since i already gave my previous phone to my wife and i‘m also tired of the screen lottery that i already played a lot in my life. But it’s just sad that Apple isn’t willing to up their QC and still charges you premium money for a phone with a high chance of getting a mediocre screen.
I had a regular 15 Pro at launch which had very noticeable red tint on the right side and was immediately returned.
I went for a Pro Max a week ago when they were available at my local Apple Store and was happy that it seemed i got good one, at first glance. No extreme tint when powering on for the first time and i did some grey uniformity tests which showed very good results and usually go hand in hand with tinting on other colors.
But after some more time with the phone i noticed that i also got a brighter/cooler bottom half screen, whilst the top is warmer, especially the top right, like others here have already shown.
I still might keep it, since i already gave my previous phone to my wife and i‘m also tired of the screen lottery that i already played a lot in my life. But it’s just sad that Apple isn’t willing to up their QC and still charges you premium money for a phone with a high chance of getting a mediocre screen.
It’s not a QC issue though. That is the level of acceptable quality that Apple set. There are too many reports of these uneven screens to call them defective. 95% are like that and no regular user ever notices. If you want an overly perfect screen you can continue the lottery, but you are not expected to win easily
The thing is, i know what I would get when i buy a new one…And right now there is also no stock in my local Apple Store.
iPhone 15 pro here, uniformity not bad but not a unicorn.
But if the phone heats a lot (after an update for example), it degrade the uniformity where the CPU is, we can see the outlines of the mainboard.
When the phone is cold, no problem so it’s just the heat.
But if the phone heats a lot (after an update for example), it degrade the uniformity where the CPU is, we can see the outlines of the mainboard.
When the phone is cold, no problem so it’s just the heat.
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I’ve never seen this before, very interesting. Does this same screen look uniform when the phone is cooler?
I love the 15PM but Apple really needs to improve cooling with the 16. It’s very noticeable just in regular use compared to how my 14PM was.
But there is already plenty of information about this technology and mura is listed one of the issues. I have very low expectations that cheap phone screen would be so much better in terms of uniformity in that technology while it might have some other advantages compared to OLED. I'm very skeptical when it comes to new display technology, just recently in TVs Samsung new type of OLED was supposed to be much better than LG OLED but turned out in independent tests that it actually burn in much easier than "old" LG OLED. Sure it has certain advantages but I mentioned that just as an example.