iPhone 15 Pro Max Screen uniformity and cast

[sdante]

This is my 15PM at 100% with TT and NS (I always keep them turned on).

Is NS really active? I mean if I recall it default to use automatic NS during night time but turns off during day.
Can you check it respond if you move NS slider to fully right and image get warm?
Can you take of photo then?

It's ok to me. There sure are better panels out there, but I'll settle with this.

I'd give my kidney for a panel like that.
Not sure if this is some region thing but in my area I have not had much luck getting perfect panel not even ordering directly from Apple as I did with 15 PM and my previous 12 Pro.

 

[Chynonyno]

Am I the only one who thinks that these photos we send are a little absurd?

The images will vary according to the light in the room, according to the ability of your iPhone to use the TT and NS well. In part, it depends on the sensor and the configuration of the camera that takes the photograph.

 

[Jutah]

I don’t understand the point of taking pics, especially with extreme settings turned on, like the night shift.

Who in the hell use NS at 100% strength?

I mean, if the panel is uniform at your eyes and not in a picture you can say that the panel is faulty?

 

[bevsb2]

Pretty much all iPhone OLED's I've seen shift to some color at extreme angles. I find in more important that there is no noticeable shift at normal angles I use my phone and for me it has been extremely difficult to find one. I see many people comment they have perfect panels and some even never seen bad ones. But at least here in EU I've struggled with this issue with every OLED iPhone I've had.


No, it sounds a good one to me. Unless it gets pink in some part of the screen more than other with using TT and NS at 100% strength.

Some people don't see uneven screens and some apparently don't care. None of the staff at Apple can see uneven screens. Most of my uneven screens have been on iPads in the past rather than phones, but my iPhone X had a faint pink line running down one side that I could never unsee. The next year there was a little pink at the top of my phone. Looking at some of the bad screens in the stores at the time, I thought it better to stick with what I had. Since then my screens have been acceptable. I prefer white, but can live with a slightly "warm" screen as long as it is even. They have all had color shift at angles but that doesn't bother me. I cannot see any color shift on my 15 Pro even on angles so I got lucky this year.

 

[coso]

Is NS really active? I mean if I recall it default to use automatic NS during night time but turns off during day.
Can you check it respond if you move NS slider to fully right and image get warm?
Can you take of photo then?


I'd give my kidney for a panel like that.
Not sure if this is some region thing but in my area I have not had much luck getting perfect panel not even ordering directly from Apple as I did with 15 PM and my previous 12 Pro.

NS was on but set at default, 50% between cold and warm. Now at full warmth it revealed a darker upper left part of the panel. I already faintly noticed it in normal use but it's very hard to spot. So again, it doesn't bother me. I attach the picture, but in it it looks perfect whereas in real life the darker upper left part is more evident. I still don't care. I'm based in Italy.

Thing is, Apple never promised us a perfect uniform screen. Just a good screen which performs fine and is reasonably uniform for a normal person not to notice. And it's like that. An iPhone with cherry picked components, discarding all the "sub par" ones, would cost like 15k$. No iPhone screen is perfect and no iPhone is without defects, it's a limit of current technology. We must embrace that good enough is indeed enough, we have literally nothing to gain chasing perfection, we will just suffer. Really, we do. It's something that you can easily forget if you practice not to care about it, and your life will be 100% better. I know because it's what I do.

 

[xas]

I don't expect a perfect screen, but the awful color shift of my first Pro Max was really distracting. Because of that, I compared with other Pro Max in three shops (not Apple shops) and couldn't find one with a similar awful color shift. Most had a comparable color shift like my second Pro Max. Also, I saw one Pro Max with a perfect screen. I still think, the screen of my first Pro Max shouldn't be the quality of a premium mobile phone.

 

[now i see it]

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[coso]

I don't expect a perfect screen, but the awful color shift of my first Pro Max was really distracting. Because of that, I compared with other Pro Max in three shops (not Apple shops) and couldn't find one with a similar awful color shift. Most had a comparable color shift like my second Pro Max. Also, I saw one Pro Max with a perfect screen. I still think, the screen of my first Pro Max shouldn't be the quality of a premium mobile phone.

Heh, probably one of the different manufacturers used for the screens has those worse viewing angles. Not a “defect”, just OEM lottery. How many could they be? 25 to 33% of the total iPhones I’m thinking. Mine hasn’t those nice viewing angles of the left phone in your photo so I’m guessing mine is one of those too. But I don’t notice it when I use it

 

[Scott M]

Yeah Apple will say anything is fine. I personally had three different 6S all with VERY non uniform screens, blue darker cast even at 0°. I stopped after the third one. The 8 was good ish. My 13 Pro was good, just warm on the left side at 0% brightness at night.

This is my 15PM at 100% with TT and NS (I always keep them turned on). It's ok to me. There sure are better panels out there, but I'll settle with this. I already said it many times, I also have two other small cosmetic defects but I'm still keep my unit, everything else is fine. I've seen far worse problems and I'm just not risking an exchange.

What are your other cosmetic issues? I’ve got a slight discolouration on the titanium sides in a couple of places. Decided to live with it though as I cba with the lottery and overall I feel I’ve gotten a pretty good one (compared to my 13 Pro that I sent back and never bothered reordering).

 

[coso]

What are your other cosmetic issues? I’ve got a slight discolouration on the titanium sides in a couple of places. Decided to live with it though as I cba with the lottery and overall I feel I’ve gotten a pretty good one (compared to my 13 Pro that I sent back and never bothered reordering).

I have a dot with missing coating up left near the front glass (visible with a case, my 15PM is black). It looks like a white dust spec. And a shiny dust spec (metal I think) in the main camera, but far left so it will not affect pictures (except with strong side lighting affecting glare maybe). Still, I’ve seen far worse, everything else is fine and I can easily forget about those two things, even though they bothered me at first

 

[sdante]

I don’t understand the point of taking pics, especially with extreme settings turned on, like the night shift.

Who in the hell use NS at 100% strength?

I mean, if the panel is uniform at your eyes and not in a picture you can say that the panel is faulty?

I do that when I want to quickly find out panel quality in detail. Thing is that issues you see right away with those extreme settings are something you will eventually see in normal use and normal settings. That is very usable when you compare two units side by side.

Good quality panel stays uniform even with extreme settings but those are hard to find. It was seventh iPhone 12 Pro for me that I found acceptable in those conditions and I was pretty happy with it all the time I owned it. It was not perfect but did not really show anything distracting in normal use. With 15 PM I got lazy, trying to find good one is extremely time consuming and stressful.

 

[sdante]

NS was on but set at default, 50% between cold and warm. Now at full warmth it revealed a darker upper left part of the panel. I already faintly noticed it in normal use but it's very hard to spot. So again, it doesn't bother me. I attach the picture, but in it it looks perfect whereas in real life the darker upper left part is more evident. I still don't care. I'm based in Italy.

Thing is, Apple never promised us a perfect uniform screen. Just a good screen which performs fine and is reasonably uniform for a normal person not to notice. And it's like that. An iPhone with cherry picked components, discarding all the "sub par" ones, would cost like 15k$. No iPhone screen is perfect and no iPhone is without defects, it's a limit of current technology. We must embrace that good enough is indeed enough, we have literally nothing to gain chasing perfection, we will just suffer. Really, we do. It's something that you can easily forget if you practice not to care about it, and your life will be 100% better. I know because it's what I do.

Panel in your photo looks pretty identical to our G9N. I see warmer pink color on the top and left side. That create distracting effect when browsing web like this forum in light mode especially with TT and NS on (in normal 50% setting).
Our G9P is a bit different, it has pink on the top but not as wide and it is more located to the right of the DI and partly to the right size. Overall G9N has warmer tone, but maybe actually more pleasing colors.

 

[Chynonyno]

I do that when I want to quickly find out panel quality in detail. Thing is that issues you see right away with those extreme settings are something you will eventually see in normal use and normal settings. That is very usable when you compare two units side by side.

Good quality panel stays uniform even with extreme settings but those are hard to find. It was seventh iPhone 12 Pro for me that I found acceptable in those conditions and I was pretty happy with it all the time I owned it. It was not perfect but did not really show anything distracting in normal use. With 15 PM I got lazy, trying to find good one is extremely time consuming and stressful.

Tell me the settings and the image I have to use to be able to photograph my iPhone 15 PM.

 

[Harthag]

Not sure how much I believe in the quality of the display based on G9P / G9N etc. Current 15PM is G9P Samsung. My first two 15PM had issues and I didn't check the display. One of them had a pink tint at the top half of the screen and some pink with off-axis viewing. The other one had a pink tint on the right side of the screen very visible with TT and NS on. Both of them also had uniformity issues with dark gray backgrounds at low brightness, at the areas that had the pink tint. My current one is perfect, nice and uniform without any pink tint. When viewing at an angle there's some blue shift, which is always preferable to me.

Based on my own experience and history pink tint / shift = trash display for the most part. I can tell right from the white welcome screen when powering on for the first time, and I cross my fingers for no pink. Might not be the case for everyone obviously. Of the screens that I've had since iPhone went OLED, the ones that shift slightly to blue when viewing at an angle are the good ones. I've had perfect G9P and G9N screens in the past.

 

[Ta0jin]

So I’m not well versed at all in this area but I have noticed that my 15 pro when compared to my 14 pro seems to have I guess you’d call it noise or looks slightly grainy when the display shows a white background at around anything beneath 30% ish brightness. I thought it was my screen protector but I added the same screen protector to my 14 pro and it’s not showing the noise or grain.

I don’t know if I’m making any sense but if I turn the brightness above 50% it’s not really noticeable at all.

 

[Amabile Ricci]

This is my iPhone 15 pro! what do you think ? brightness around 10% and ture tone on!

 

[Robot21]

This is my iPhone 15 pro! what do you think ? brightness around 10% and ture tone on!

Looks pretty good to me

 

[dantay]

This is my iPhone 15 pro! what do you think ? brightness around 10% and ture tone on!

That’s how mine looks, very uniform.

 

[sdante]

Tell me the settings and the image I have to use to be able to photograph my iPhone 15 PM.

I've been using different full screen solid color patterns from different levels. For example good patterns can be found at walvisions dot com site. Also I've use some Youtube videos with 5% gray level.
Usually you see right away if panel has uniformity problems by setting TT on and NS on at 100% strength.
Another good way to compare panel is using something like web page that has black text on white background and then zoom text to fill the screen evenly. That helps your eye to pick up any issues faster.

 

[magnetic_electrique]

Mine has a nasty red tint when I turn on night shift and True Tone at night time. Going to swap it out at the Apple Store today hopefully. Still under the return period and they finally have natural titanium in stock.

 

[sdante]

Not sure how much I believe in the quality of the display based on G9P / G9N etc. Current 15PM is G9P Samsung.

Yeah, hard to what the truth is but my experience with 12 Pro where I tested lot of units was that all bad ones (6 pcs) were with G9P and the one that was the best was G9N. Difference was huge.
But panel 15 PM has different type of screen (support always on) than 12 Pro had. However I do notice that our 15 PM with G9N and G9P have different looking colors where G9N has warm pleasing looking colors and G9P is somewhat cooler. But in my case, I think G9P looked a bit more uniform, but it was hard to say when one was better in bright image and the other with darker and so on. But for simple white test pattern, G9P was a bit better this time.

My current one is perfect, nice and uniform without any pink tint. When viewing at an angle there's some blue shift, which is always preferable to me.

Sounds like you found a unicorn. Both of your 15 PM's have blue maybe hint toward green shift when viewing at an angle. My previous 12 Pro with good screen had similar shift at an angle.

Based on my own experience and history pink tint / shift = trash display for the most part. I can tell right from the white welcome screen when powering on for the first time, and I cross my fingers for no pink. Might not be the case for everyone obviously. Of the screens that I've had since iPhone went OLED, the ones that shift slightly to blue when viewing at an angle are the good ones. I've had perfect G9P and G9N screens in the past.

Neither of our 15 PM's showed any obvious tint/shift on the first power on during welcome screen and I look very critically. But thing is for me that I look screens very critically and issues I see are something many others will think is not an issue.

 

[sdante]

Mine has a nasty red tint when I turn on night shift and True Tone at night time. Going to swap it out at the Apple Store today hopefully. Still under the return period and they finally have natural titanium in stock.

Is that tint in some part of the screen only? You have a photo of it? I mean it is suppose to go very warm reddish looking but it should be even across the screen. Have you checked which panel you have?
Please let us know if replacement is different.

 

[magnetic_electrique]

Is that tint in some part of the screen only? You have a photo of it? I mean it is suppose to go very warm reddish looking but it should be even across the screen. Have you checked which panel you have?
Please let us know if replacement is different.

Is it normal for a black background to look kind of grainy at night time. I browse Reddit at night time and the black background looks grainy if that makes sense. I think the reddish tint covers the whole screen. I take it red tint is “normal” when using both night shift and True Tone.

 

[sdante]

This is my iPhone 15 pro! what do you think ? brightness around 10% and ture tone on!

Looks pretty typical with slightly darker left side and bottom of the screen. Also some reddish tint on the top. Did you test with NS on? Usually makes that more obvious.
Is that G9N? Looks kinda similar to our G9N.

 

[sdante]

Is it normal for a black background to look kind of grainy at night time. I browse Reddit at night time and the black background looks grainy if that makes sense. I think the reddish tint covers the whole screen. I take it red tint is “normal” when using both night shift and True Tone.

Hmm, grainy as with some kind of dithering effect (meaning it has a bit like old analog TV "snowing" type effect when selecting channel without broadcast) or just solid grainy? Thing is that OLED is not very good at showing levels above 0%, it is the same with OLED TV's where 0% is great but 5% is more or less horrible. Anyway, I haven't noticed my 15 PM being different than my 12 Pro was.