More of a future proofing thing and taking advantage of the native 64bit android L. The potential depends on the application as well. 32bit is disappointing. If I get one it will be the Xenos version.
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Seems that Note 4 is not as good as iPhone 6
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More of a future proofing thing and taking advantage of the native 64bit android L. The potential depends on the application as well. 32bit is disappointing. If I get one it will be the Xenos version.
OK bud what ever you say. I just scored 800 in sunspider and when chrome gets its next performance update I'll post back a better score for you.
The note 4 also owns in 3d mark off screen because the iPhone is not rendering the same amount of pixels as the note 4.
Ps the sunspider runs you posted are the older script using the note 4 not the one I posted above that does a lot better for the note 4
SunSpider is worthless as a sign of how good a computer is. The same laptop, for example, can get two separate scores in two separate browsers. It's worthless, just like all benchmarks.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the Exynos variant is 64bit capable, however it is locked to 32bit, even when Android L comes out, it will most likely remain 32bit.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8537/samsungs-exynos-5433-is-an-a57a53-arm-soc
It's still very nice, I would have chosen it if I was able too, however sadly UK gets Snapdragon.
There is very little if any point to it. If a device is smooth and near instant who cares about .001 milliseconds? My personal opinion is if the choice is between loading a webpage .001 milliseconds quicker, or having multi windows I'll choose the latter all day long.
But you'll always have the epeen guys who shout at the top of their lungs about that .001 millisecond, it's just the nature of the versus wars in every category. If you can't really grasp something solid to argue for or against just throw out benchmarks. As soon as I see someone throwing around benchmarks I know they've already lost the argument because all they have left to cling to is those tiny differences a benchmark may show.
Because life is too short to not be online arguing against someone else on a forum about a device you should just buy and enjoy.
I think the iPhone will still notably beat the Note 4 in single core performance which is the best benchmark you can look at as all applications gain from this. The Apple A8 chip is leading the smartphone market right now. Looking forward to seeing the results from the quad core Snapdragon.
The Note 3 score is 711. The S5 912. iPhone 6 plus is 1626. Very impressive.
The Note 3 score is 711. The S5 912. iPhone 6 plus is 1626. Very impressive.
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In real world usage no one notices these things. The note 4 is powering a quad HD screen and still performing mighty fast... The A8 chip is a waste of commenting on, next fall you guys will be praising the A9 and treat the A8 like it's useless. I wonder why the A8 is not stopping the lag and stuttering on the iPhone 6 plus.......
On iPhone at any time there is only one active process/app since ios doesn't do concurrent multi task.
On android real multitasking there are many concurrent processes/apps running so with more cores the load can be better distributed and thus improve overall performance.
So multi core makes a difference in android not so much in ios. With ios 8 lets see how it response when widgets are refreshing while you are doing something else. I'll bet you will feel the lagginess.
And in the end its this sort of performance that really matters to the end users, not the core count the damn bench performance and what some fancy power point slide
There's nothing more embarrassing than a flaccid phone. Samsung phones are RIGID and STIFF when you buy them. They stay FIRM in your pocket, all day... and all night. Squeeze it. Bend it. Slap it around.
Samsung - It's a raging phoner.
^^ They have the best marketing agency in the world.
Joking aside, Snapdragon 805 is a skippable SoC like the 600 was last year. I think the Note 4 is equal to the Mi 4. Not really a substantial upgrade from the previous one. They even took a stepback using the more battery draining QHD. Same amount of RAM as Note 3. Slap a metal band around it, QHD, a skippable SoC, and call it a day. Wait for the 810 SoC. By early next year, most phones announced at CES or MWC will start surpassing iPhone 6 and Note 4 in benchmarks very easily even though real world performance won't be a huge difference.
Samsung - It's a raging phoner.
^^ They have the best marketing agency in the world.
Joking aside, Snapdragon 805 is a skippable SoC like the 600 was last year. I think the Note 4 is equal to the Mi 4. Not really a substantial upgrade from the previous one. They even took a stepback using the more battery draining QHD. Same amount of RAM as Note 3. Slap a metal band around it, QHD, a skippable SoC, and call it a day. Wait for the 810 SoC. By early next year, most phones announced at CES or MWC will start surpassing iPhone 6 and Note 4 in benchmarks very easily even though real world performance won't be a huge difference.
Still doesn't explain how Apple can have all models of their iOS devices served with one SoC and not interference with any LTE bands, while Samsung cannot.
For people who upgrade once a year like myself, the note 4 is a good upgrade for now... I'm sure the note 5 will be in my hands next fall with 4 gb ram and a 64 bit processor while apple will still see 1gb and A9 processor... I'm also sure most users don't need 3 gb of ram but at least Samsung gives us this option. ALSO, no one notices the advantages of a 64 bit processor on their phones especially iPhone users so the 32 bit note 4 is perfect for now...
Surely having the A9 chip with an improved camera alone will make it worth it surely?
Totally agree. But I'm certain next year will be 2GB of RAM.
3GS-256mb
4-512mb
4S-512
5-1GB
5S-1GB
6/6+- 1GB(for some odd reason)
6S-2GB(?)
But the 1GB RAM in the 6 oddly makes sense and i'll explain, but first I must show you the iPad RAM upgrades.
Original iPad- 256mb
iPad 2-512mb
iPad 3-1GB
iPad 4-1GB
iPad Air-1GB
We see a pattern of 3 generations of each product having 1GB RAM, this may cause a person to assume that Apple will continue with 1GB RAM but here is where I see Apple's logic.
Up until now, RAM upgrades were reserved for "full version" upgrades i.e "4", "5" but I think Apple wanted to shift RAM upgrades from the full model numbers to the "S" models thus the regular, every two year RAM upgrade will resume with the 6S.
Here is the RAM that the 6 uses- Elpida 1 GB LPDDR3 RAM(courtesy of iFixit)
From some basic researching done, currently Elpida(or rather Micron) produce maximum single mobile RAM chips of 16Gb(2GB) so if you were hoping for 3GB of RAM or even 4, then it won't be possible unless Apple decides to add two chips of RAM.
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That would be a pretty pathetic reason, as no average consumer knows what RAM even is.
If a phone doesn't have an operating system you enjoy using or provide an experience to your tastes, it's irrelevant what the spec sheet says, let's face it. 'If' I had to choose out of these two devices it would be the Plus, simply because it runs iOS. Whether it is slightly faster or slower makes absolutely no difference to me.
The answer is Qualcomm and their chip.
Also samsung could use the same strategy but because they are not only phonemakers, they are also one of the largest ship maker, they have build their own chip and continue to develope it. So they use that chip on some regions.
^^ the above will actually mean something when some of these reviewers actually show it in the real world. It's like car magazines touting a .3 second faster quarter mile in one car over another. Great, at the end of 1320ft you'll have 2-3 lengths on someone at 110mph. Put that on the freeway while commuting to work and you won't notice a thing.
Show me the relevance of the above performance of an iPhone in the real world using an app I care about. Otherwise bench testing is about as useful as bench racing a car or bike. IMO, it's a lame attempt to try and detract from the real world advantages of Android and say a Note series over Apples latest attempt to compete.
You know nothing, you guys thought you would surely have 2 gb this year...sorry but Apple knows they can sell millions with 1 gb of ram and there customers would still buy the iPhone no matter what..I believe you guys are stuck with 1 gb for another couple years lol