Shame on you Apple !

[raynold2010]

Sorry if there's a thread on that already, but 5 hours of battery for the 11 inch model is just plain terrible.

I was expecting something that could be a real contender to Asus EEE PC 1005 PEM (update) : 8 hours of battery life.

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/asus-eee-pc-1015pem.aspx?page=2#axzz13NdW0aBf

Of course, it's not thin ! But what is more important for you when you buy a laptop ???

For Christ sakes, what's wrong with you Apple ? I'm a big fan, but spending 1000 dollars on such a limited computer, just for the sake of looks ??? And when your battery dies, you can't just replace it yourself. Give me a break.

I'm really, really disappointed in Apple's strategy.

(Sent from my iMac)

 

[miles01110]

Then don't buy one.

 

[HardLuckStories]

Er, so don't buy one

 

[Dammit Cubs]

You do realize it only has 5 hours because it's smaller. Because battery capacity is usually related to the size and thickness of the device.

You seriously arguing that a pint of milk can't store a gallon?!!. Did I just hear this right? You're complaining and starting a thread about this because you're trying to figure out why a 30MPG car with 1 gallon tank only goes....30 miles?


we are doomed.

 

[spamboxnet]

It is not limited at all. In fact, it is the single greatest computer I have ever owned, or have even used, or even seen before.

There is simply no room for battery space in the 11, and you think it's all just for looks??? haha
and... what is wrong with 5 hours battery life?

Apple created an ultra portable that people have been asking for, at a price point that anyone wanting an ultraportable can afford. Shame on you for being a whinny loser

 

[KnightWRX]

Let's see, the EeePC 1005PE you say ?

- 1024x600 screen resolution.
- Intel Atom N450
- 1GB DDR2 ram, 2GB maximum.
- No indication of graphics, so Intel it is.

Just with these specs, we can see this is not a MBA competitor. Not even close.

You do realize it only has 5 hours because it's smaller. Because battery capacity is usually related to the size and thickness of the device.

It's also 5 hours because it's driving a bigger screen with more pixels, a much more powerful CPU and more RAM on top of fitting all of those in a smaller, lighter package.

Seriously, if you can compromise on those specs, then yes, go with the Asus with more battery life.

 

[iPhysicist]

Shame on you Apple!

Shame on you Apple for everything...

Shame on you Apple for the gorgeous display
Shame on you Apple to provide us a real CPU
Shame on you Apple to let us upgrade to 4GB or Ram
Shame on you Apple for the 320m

Shame on you Apple for everything...

...that does not fit in the dream of a teenager

SHAME on you Apple!
Shame on YOU Apple!
Shame ON you Apple!
Shame on you APPLE!

APPLE! you've done everything right!

 

[jclardy]

Sorry if there's a thread on that already, but 5 hours of battery for the 11 inch model is just plain terrible.

I was expecting something that could be a real contender to Asus EEE PC 1005 PE that's been out for one year already.

http://jkontherun.com/2010/01/22/battery-life-on-asus-eee-pc-1005pe-netbook-is-truly-all-day/

Of course, it's not thin ! But what is more important for you when you buy a laptop ??? And it's only 370 dollars ! Yes, I know, it's got that Windows thing inside. But anyway !

For Christ sakes, what's wrong with you Apple ? I'm a big fan, but spending 1000 dollars on such a limited computer, just for the sake of looks ??? And when your battery dies, you can't just replace it yourself. Give me a break.

I'm really, really disappointed in Apple's strategy.

(Sent from my iMac)

You call the MBA limited but you show us the Asus eee PC? Yeah it has great battery life because it has a garbage processor. Have you ever used an Atom processor?

I have (in my Acer netbook) and paired with the Intel GMA graphics it has in it you will barely be able to play flash video full screen. I am not talking about HD flash video, just plain SD video in fullscreen because the graphics chip can't keep up, even with it's worse than iPad screen resolution.

Plus the MBA has an SSD which will lightyears faster than the 5400 (Possibly 4200) RPM HDD in that netbook. If you just want something small to browse the web with long battery life than you should be fine with that Asus. If you want a machine that could be used for actual work then you need something better which the MacBook Air is.

Not to mention the fact that the Asus underclocks the already spectacularly slow single core Atom to increase the battery life. Plus a smaller keyboard and a tiny trackpad.

There are some ultraportables that give better performance for the money but you are going to have to look at something more expensive than a netbook with an atom.

 

[wisty]

The iPad gets 10 hours batter life, and it has similar specs to the Asus. And it's pretty cheap. Why don't you compare apples to apples?

 

[Lone Deranger]

You seriously arguing that a pint of milk can't store a gallon?!!.

Hahaha... that's an excellent analogy. Well spoken

 

[yegon]

You call the MBA limited but you show us the Asus eee PC? Yeah it has great battery life because it has a garbage processor.

This.

Not got my 11" yet, but I'd like to know how much battery life people are getting with real usage - is it truly 5hrs with average use i.e wifi on, a few hrs of random browsing, say an hour or so of video/audio? I'm hopeful it is given how much emphasis Jobs place on their new battery tests. Note, I don't plan on doing anything too stressful on it, using it only for the above purposes.

My incoming 11" will eventually replace my iPad you see, the battery of which I rarely see dip below 50% between charges. As such, a 5hr batt life on the MBA, half of the iPad's, shouldn't be a problem for me.

 

[eawmp1]

“If you have an Asus Eee PC 1005HA or 1008HA and you’re looking for a reason to upgrade to the latest model, there’s only one here: The Asus Eee PC 1005PE gets spectacular battery life. Performance-wise, it functions like virtually every other netbook that’s been released since mid-2008.”

This is a quote from the OP's supporting link. The emphasis is mine, and is also the problem with the OP's premise.

 

[ReallyBigFeet]

This is one of the primary reasons I chose the 13" over the 11" MBA Netbook. I've become so accustomed to 5+ hours on my full-size MBP that to settle for anything less seems uncivilized.

The 11" just has far too many compromises for my use.

 

[falconeight]

It last more than 5 hours apple is very modest with its numbers.

 

[Doc750]

Shame on you for making a post like this, on this forum. You should know better.

These fanboys will eat you alive.

 

[maflynn]

I guess apple should have consulted the OP before designing the MBA, clearly he has more intimate knowledge in what consumers want then Jobs and Ives


I'm not a fan of the 13" MBA, but the 11" is drawing my interest as a secondary computer. If the specs of the MBA doesn't suit the OP's needs, then move on. Apple isn't about satisfying the need of every single consumer on the planet - its impossible. Clearly given the posting, many people are very impressed.

 

[AppleGoddess]

I get 6 hours would have been happy with 3.

 

[bowlerman625]

I get 6 hours would have been happy with 3.

Very nice!! I can't wait to get my CTO order this week!!!! Yea!!

 

[raynold2010]

Fanboys to the rescue.

Wow, shame on me. That gallon of milk stuff says a lot about your priorities. Who wants a shiny pretty computer to show off at Starbucks?

Now, who's REALLY using a notebook all the time ? Students. On a campus, 5 hours of battery life is just laughable.

Double that, Apple, and I'll be a happy customer. We need a day-long battery, that's not so difficult to understand.

And I'm not going Asus, because it's Windows. And not iPad, because I need a keyboard constantly.

 

[AppleGoddess]

I use this as my home computer I don't need a large desktop or even a MBP I lived with only the ipad Since April 6, I Love it and might get another if I decide too.
But for now this is perfect if you don't like it the get a PC.

Maybe you have MBA Envy?

 

[Hankster]

Sorry if there's a thread on that already, but 5 hours of battery for the 11 inch model is just plain terrible.

I was expecting something that could be a real contender to Asus EEE PC 1005 PE that's been out for one year already.

http://jkontherun.com/2010/01/22/battery-life-on-asus-eee-pc-1005pe-netbook-is-truly-all-day/

Of course, it's not thin ! But what is more important for you when you buy a laptop ??? And it's only 370 dollars ! Yes, I know, it's got that Windows thing inside. But anyway !

For Christ sakes, what's wrong with you Apple ? I'm a big fan, but spending 1000 dollars on such a limited computer, just for the sake of looks ??? And when your battery dies, you can't just replace it yourself. Give me a break.

I'm really, really disappointed in Apple's strategy.

(Sent from my iMac)

You have no concept of limitations or design. I have the high end HP Mini 5202 netbook ($800) and it has a 8 hour batter life. But, it's literally 2x thicker than the MBA 11" and about 3x heavier.

I didn't care for the original MBA, but the new MBA 11" is an excellent device. I'm already gearing up to get it and selling both my MB and HP netbook.

There are limitations to technology.

 

[czeluff]

Fanboys to the rescue.

Wow, shame on me. That gallon of milk stuff says a lot about your priorities. Who wants a shiny pretty computer to show off at Starbucks?

Now, who's REALLY using a notebook all the time ? Students. On a campus, 5 hours of battery life is just laughable.

Double that, Apple, and I'll be a happy customer. We need a day-long battery, that's not so difficult to understand.

And I'm not going Asus, because it's Windows. And not iPad, because I need a keyboard constantly.

So did you decide to write off the posts above as "fanboys" and not READ the information regarding the Atom processors? They're terrible - I have to use one at work constantly :/

Other things students want that you're ignoring:

1. a full-size keyboard. You know, for typing. The ASUS doesn't give you that...it gives you the same keyboard as the iPad basically.

2. reliability with their storage. The last thing a student wants is a hard drive to crash. No need to worry about that here.

3. a good gpu isn't much to ask - that Intel one wouldn't run Flash fullscreen.

It'd be interesting to see HOW they're getting 10 hrs of battery life on the ASUS. Apple's 11.6" gets a REAL-WORLD 5hrs based on the new tests. What was the ASUS unit doing? He says he's getting 12 hours "in a pinch". What does that even mean - leaving the screen on and leaving the machine idle?!

A PC with 1gb of memory and a Mac with 2gb cannot even be compared.

So if you want better battery while getting closer to 10 hours of battery life, maybe you should be looking at a 13" Macbook Pro. Or at least the next update of it.

Or just do a Hackintosh with that ASUS unit and be happy. Don't think we'll miss the whines and trolls

 

[zap2]

In regards to students need long battery life, I can only say that with my experience as a student, I do like long battery life, but most classes only last around an hour. And study sessions take place in libraries/study rooms where wall outlets are plentiful. So issues relating to power aren't huge. Also many PC laptops don't have near the battery life Apple notebooks do.

I'm not saying more battery life would hurt, I'd love it. But I don't think its a make or break deal for many users.


(I'm coming from a MBP with 8 hours reported battery life, real world usage changed from day to day)

 

[rockyroad55]

Fanboys to the rescue.

Wow, shame on me. That gallon of milk stuff says a lot about your priorities. Who wants a shiny pretty computer to show off at Starbucks?

Now, who's REALLY using a notebook all the time ? Students. On a campus, 5 hours of battery life is just laughable.

Double that, Apple, and I'll be a happy customer. We need a day-long battery, that's not so difficult to understand.

And I'm not going Asus, because it's Windows. And not iPad, because I need a keyboard constantly.

Where are you going to be, as a student, in the building for 5 hours where there is no wall plug? Just saying. My college has tons of wall plugs everywhere, sooo....

 

[CaoCao]

Sorry if there's a thread on that already, but 5 hours of battery for the 11 inch model is just plain terrible.

I was expecting something that could be a real contender to Asus EEE PC 1005 PE that's been out for one year already.

http://jkontherun.com/2010/01/22/battery-life-on-asus-eee-pc-1005pe-netbook-is-truly-all-day/

Of course, it's not thin ! But what is more important for you when you buy a laptop ??? And it's only 370 dollars ! Yes, I know, it's got that Windows thing inside. But anyway !

For Christ sakes, what's wrong with you Apple ? I'm a big fan, but spending 1000 dollars on such a limited computer, just for the sake of looks ??? And when your battery dies, you can't just replace it yourself. Give me a break.

I'm really, really disappointed in Apple's strategy.

(Sent from my iMac)

“If you have an Asus Eee PC 1005HA or 1008HA and you’re looking for a reason to upgrade to the latest model, there’s only one here: The Asus Eee PC 1005PE gets spectacular battery life. Performance-wise, it functions like virtually every other netbook that’s been released since mid-2008.”

You do realize that doing anything on that is like eating an elephant, one byte at a time right?
It has a single core! and clock for clock the Atom is slower than a Pentium M!
The MBA 11 has 4x the CPU power and 6x the GPU...
Now really, which one is limited again?

Let's see, the EeePC 1005PE you say ?

- 1024x600 screen resolution.
- Intel Atom N450
- 1GB DDR2 ram, 2GB maximum.
- No indication of graphics, so Intel it is.

Just with these specs, we can see this is not a MBA competitor. Not even close.



It's also 5 hours because it's driving a bigger screen with more pixels, a much more powerful CPU and more RAM on top of fitting all of those in a smaller, lighter package.

Seriously, if you can compromise on those specs, then yes, go with the Asus with more battery life.

What exactly can you do with 1GB RAM?
MBA has 4xCPU and 6xGPU power

I get 6 hours would have been happy with 3.

typical Apple

Fanboys to the rescue.

Wow, shame on me. That gallon of milk stuff says a lot about your priorities. Who wants a shiny pretty computer to show off at Starbucks?

Now, who's REALLY using a notebook all the time ? Students. On a campus, 5 hours of battery life is just laughable.

Double that, Apple, and I'll be a happy customer. We need a day-long battery, that's not so difficult to understand.

And I'm not going Asus, because it's Windows. And not iPad, because I need a keyboard constantly.

You really don't have any outlet access for five hours?