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raynold2010

macrumors member
Original poster
Aug 18, 2010
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Trolling and whining ? I don't think so.

I should be praising the almighty God Jobs to be admitted as a full member of the forum ?

I won't give you that satisfaction.

The basic thing is : you charge your MBA during the night. Then you take it with you. Without plugs, wires, or any crap. Or that's not a MBA anymore. That's a MBA with wires.

And at MY campus, we have wi-fi everywhere, including outside. Where we can work too. And if I want to go someplace while I'm in a library, I just take the MBA with me. Without wires, right ? Just the MBA.

Got the idea ?

Have a nice day.

Steve, if you read this : think battery life next time. Not hipness. ;)
 

darngooddesign

macrumors P6
Jul 4, 2007
18,366
10,128
Atlanta, GA
Trolling and whining ? I don't think so.

I should be praising the almighty God Jobs to be admitted as a full member of the forum ?

I won't give you that satisfaction.

The basic thing is : you charge your MBA during the night. Then you take it with you. Without plugs, wires, or any crap. Or that's not a MBA anymore. That's a MBA with wires.

And at MY campus, we have wi-fi everywhere, including outside. Where we can work too. And if I want to go someplace while I'm in a library, I just take the MBA with me. Without wires, right ? Just the MBA.

Got the idea ?

Have a nice day.

Steve, if you read this : think battery life next time. Not hipness. ;)

As battery life is your highest priority, you should not buy the Air.

PS. Since you are a student I thought I'd teach you something. Using a phrase like "almighty God Jobs" eliminates any credibility your opinion might have.
 

hcho3

macrumors 68030
May 13, 2010
2,783
0
What the...
What are you talking about? Don't put words into our mouths. I care a lot whether it's small or big. These laptops are meant to be portable. The lighter they are, the better off I will be. 5 hours of battery life is about average, but it is not terrible. If you don't like it, then don't get one.
 

dextertangocci

macrumors 68000
Apr 2, 2006
1,766
1
Then get the 13" MBP. 10 hour battery life. If you complain about the Macbook air being more about looks and not about practicality, the 13" MBP should be better for you then - it isn't as thin but will probably be more useful to you. And it's not that much bigger/heavier than the MBA.
 

Apple OC

macrumors 68040
Oct 14, 2010
3,667
4,328
Hogtown
I was expecting something that could be a real contender to Asus EEE PC 1005 PE

looks like you are $#&% out of luck ... are there really any contenders to the Assus you mentioned?

Maybe Acer or Gateway?
 

Carouser

macrumors 65816
Feb 1, 2010
1,411
1
Shorter OP:

"I want something made to my specifics with no regard for cost, what the market will bear, technological limitations, target audience, or product differentiation. If my bizarro standards of entitlement aren't satisfied I'll blame Apple rather than reflect on my ridiculous expectations. P.S. FANBOYS FANBOYS FANBOYS."
 

Dammit Cubs

macrumors 68020
Jul 31, 2007
2,122
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Let's see, the EeePC 1005PE you say ?

- 1024x600 screen resolution.
- Intel Atom N450
- 1GB DDR2 ram, 2GB maximum.
- No indication of graphics, so Intel it is.

Just with these specs, we can see this is not a MBA competitor. Not even close.



It's also 5 hours because it's driving a bigger screen with more pixels, a much more powerful CPU and more RAM on top of fitting all of those in a smaller, lighter package.

Seriously, if you can compromise on those specs, then yes, go with the Asus with more battery life.


It's 5 hours because of the size. If you saw one in person, you would see how much shorter it is. If you understand that the 13'inch battery is made up of 67% battery. Going from 13.6 to 11.6 (also having a very tapered thin form) will drop your size by about 20 person. Which is how many hours is sacraficed. The 13 inch is drives 1440 x 900 pixels so from a DPI standpoint there are almost equivalent. If anything, your total area for backlight illumination is much much larger on the 13 vs the 11.6. Everything nullifies itself. Not to mention, you have slower processor in the 11.6.

It's size. Nothing more.
 

jfyrfytr25

macrumors 6502a
Dec 6, 2008
762
3
Fanboys to the rescue.

Wow, shame on me. That gallon of milk stuff says a lot about your priorities. Who wants a shiny pretty computer to show off at Starbucks? :D

Now, who's REALLY using a notebook all the time ? Students. On a campus, 5 hours of battery life is just laughable.

Double that, Apple, and I'll be a happy customer. We need a day-long battery, that's not so difficult to understand.

And I'm not going Asus, because it's Windows. And not iPad, because I need a keyboard constantly.

Thank God!!!! My life is complete now knowing that you do not like the 11" Air's Battery life and are going to buy an ASUS instead.

Since we are sharing things that no one else cares about, I'm going to have a Turkey sandwich on 12 grain bread for lunch along with an bannana.


Get a life. The world does not revolve around you. Different people have different needs and that is what VARIETY is for. The air's battery is not enough for you? GET A 13" PRO!!!! For me, and many others, the 5 hours is plenty given the size contraints. We are practical knowing that sometimes you have to give a little function to get the form you want.


Grow UP!!!! I'm sure Mommy and Daddy is buying it for you anyway, so what do you care?
 

PittAir

macrumors regular
Mar 13, 2008
145
11
The question we all should be asking:

How much is Microsoft paying the Windows astroturf trolls?
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
It's size. Nothing more.

I was talking about the EeePC vs the MBA. Why are you comparing the 11.6" to a 13.3" ?

The guy said the EeePC gets better battery life. The reason is not just its size (it is thicker, though not bigger since it's a 10" netbook), but all the other components it uses.

Both are not in the same market and don't target the same userbase. I would never consider a EeePC 1005PE. I bought a MBA 13.3" as soon as the store was up.
 

chrmjenkins

macrumors 603
Oct 29, 2007
5,325
158
MD
Trolling and whining ? I don't think so.

I should be praising the almighty God Jobs to be admitted as a full member of the forum ?

I won't give you that satisfaction.

The basic thing is : you charge your MBA during the night. Then you take it with you. Without plugs, wires, or any crap. Or that's not a MBA anymore. That's a MBA with wires.

And at MY campus, we have wi-fi everywhere, including outside. Where we can work too. And if I want to go someplace while I'm in a library, I just take the MBA with me. Without wires, right ? Just the MBA.

Got the idea ?

Have a nice day.

Steve, if you read this : think battery life next time. Not hipness. ;)

It's not our fault you don't understand physics.
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
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0
It is not limited at all. In fact, it is the single greatest computer I have ever owned, or have even used, or even seen before.

There is simply no room for battery space in the 11, and you think it's all just for looks??? haha
and... what is wrong with 5 hours battery life?

Apple created an ultra portable that people have been asking for, at a price point that anyone wanting an ultraportable can afford. Shame on you for being a whinny loser

He can't complain about Apple not having an ultra-portable, so now he has to find something else. There will ALWAYS be something that can be improved on any model.... if he wants an Asus made of recycled soda bottles and running a diluted version of windows. There are plenty of people happy with Apple's new product.

When was the last time the top story on the news was "Today, ASUS launched a new and exciting line of computers" ??? LOL
 

CaoCao

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2010
783
2
Trolling and whining ? I don't think so.

I should be praising the almighty God Jobs to be admitted as a full member of the forum ?

I won't give you that satisfaction.

The basic thing is : you charge your MBA during the night. Then you take it with you. Without plugs, wires, or any crap. Or that's not a MBA anymore. That's a MBA with wires.

And at MY campus, we have wi-fi everywhere, including outside. Where we can work too. And if I want to go someplace while I'm in a library, I just take the MBA with me. Without wires, right ? Just the MBA.

Got the idea ?

Have a nice day.

Steve, if you read this : think battery life next time. Not hipness. ;)
IMO
Jobs=Jackass

close the MBA lid to save battery, it will extend it a lot
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
1,610
0
Steve, if you read this : think battery life next time. Not hipness. ;)

LOL, if steve reads this he'll laugh because you're the only one complaining. Maybe if you spent more time paying attention in school (specifically physics and engineering classes) you'd understand the capabilities of batteries when put into a 1/10th of an inch space.
 

OSMac

macrumors 65816
Jun 14, 2010
1,455
7
With the 11" using a 10W processor
vs using 17W in the 13",
I was surprised it had less battery life.

Wonder if the bottom was not tapered at the front
if that would have allowed for more battery space and/or a sd slot?
 

eawmp1

macrumors 601
Feb 19, 2008
4,159
91
FL
Wonder if the bottom was not tapered at the front
if that would have allowed for more battery space and/or a sd slot?

Yes...and if it were bigger, you could have had a true hard drive, optical drive, user-replaceable RAM, etc. But then it would be a MacBook, not an Air. :rolleyes:
 

OSMac

macrumors 65816
Jun 14, 2010
1,455
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Yes...and if it were bigger, you could have had a true hard drive, optical drive, user-replaceable RAM, etc. But then it would be a MacBook, not an Air. :rolleyes:

No don't want all those,
just a little more battery and a SD slot would have been nice. :apple:
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
1,610
0
No don't want all those,
just a little more battery and a SD slot would have been nice. :apple:

MB Air 13"
- Bigger Battery
- SD Card Slot

I got a 11" because I'm okay with less battery and no SD slot so I can have a smaller unit.

Why do people think Apple can just make a battery smaller? Does anyone who thinks they should have put better battery life into the same size unit actually comprehend or try to research battery technology? Or is it easier to just spout rants and raves?
 

jclardy

macrumors 601
Oct 6, 2008
4,233
4,577
Yes...and if it were bigger, you could have had a true hard drive, optical drive, user-replaceable RAM, etc. But then it would be a MacBook, not an Air. :rolleyes:

Not quite, if they didn't taper it as much they could have added the SD card slot back in while also probably doubling the battery life. But then it wouldn't really be a MacBook Air anymore because it wouldn't be super thin at the front.

I'm waiting for the day that they get rid of the Optical drives in the pro line and make them thinner and lighter. Of course then their would be a never-ending sea of complaints. But remember Apple was the first to ditch the floppy drive...
 

bolsen78

macrumors regular
Aug 26, 2010
177
0
With everything that i usually do on my MB I got 6 hours out of the base 11.6 yesterday. I tested it out. So even if I have it on me all day most of the time it isnt going to be on but sleeping as well so its not that bad if you ask me. It isnt going to be on constantly.
 

Carouser

macrumors 65816
Feb 1, 2010
1,411
1
Why do people think Apple can just make a battery smaller? Does anyone who thinks they should have put better battery life into the same size unit actually comprehend or try to research battery technology? Or is it easier to just spout rants and raves?

People think Apple has a 'do the thing I want' button that Steve Jobs can press, and that any product decision made is purely arbitrary and could have been otherwise, with all other things remaining the same. This applies whenever a new Apple product is released without fail.

"Why doesn't the iPod have more memory?"
"Why can't I change what the button on my iPad does?"
"Why doesn't the MacBook Air have twice the battery?"

When challenged, these people will say "But this other device has the feature I want, it's totally possible", ignoring the fact that the other device is twice as big, or poorly made, or doesn't run OS X, or costs three times as much.

Finally, they will say "It's just a small change, I don't see why they can't do it", discounting the fact that there a hundred different small changes people want or ignoring the economic, technical, and design limitations to what they want.

Then, you will hear that Apple withholds incremental features just to sell a new product in a year's time. This assumes that Apple can dump all features into a product at launch (again ignoring the points above). These posters would rather have (1) amazing new products every year, rather than incremental (which is impossible) or (2) an amazing product every three-five years (which is exactly what happens now, unless you feel you have to buy everything Apple sells).

Point any of this out, and you are a fanboy (durr) and you will get to hear how terrible Steve Jobs is, how dumb they are at Apple, and how the big :apple: failed to meet their moral obligations again and again, falling upwards with each stupid decision.

Feel free to print this out for reference, just cite me appropriately.
 

bella92108

macrumors 68000
Mar 1, 2006
1,610
0
You should be looking at the Lenovo U165.

Any computer surfs the web, sends emails, takes notes. Apple's MacBook Air does it in style.

I love how people talk about function being more important than form, yet how many people will buy ugly shoes because they're comfortable? People buy functional products with an emphasis on style.

The OP likely wouldn't be caught dead in WalMart Shoes.... yet he's arguing people should buy the Walmart of computers, haha
 

BobbyCarbn

macrumors regular
Jun 21, 2009
155
0
The new 11.6 MBA Battery could last 20 hours and people would still complain.

In the end people just like to moan about something.

Keep your EEE and run off to an Asus Forum then! Or go purchase a MBP 13 if you need extended battery life.
 
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