When you manage to get it right, it's absolutely magical
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Can't wait to get my hands on the 7 Plus!
Here's one of my dog from last night. Agreed that the edges are quite soft, but this is the initial release of the feature in to the wild. I would expect some tweaking to portrait mode before it's final release.
I have used my "old" 6S to get this effect by just holding the camera close to the object, which causes the background to go blurry naturally. Now granted this doesn't work in all situations but it does produce the desired effect without those weird edges from some of these sample shots (optics vs software).
Somehow I thought this would be done via the optics in the lens and not a post process software effect. Maybe my 6S isn't so bad after all.
Somehow I thought this would be done via the optics in the lens and not a post process software effect. Maybe my 6S isn't so bad after all.
Exactly! The shot of my dog I posted, I waited for good lighting as the sun was setting and shining in my apartment. I've done some of the portrait mode shots in low light conditions and they're crap. Good photography requires good light, that will never change.
Even some higher end point and shoot cameras offer this effect naturally, using software and tricking optics forces it and it shows. Don't get me wrong, these are nice photos even without the forced bokeh, it just looks unnatural. If photography is one's goal, they should get a real camera.
Yeah the bokeh effect really needs some tweaking because of the shots I have viewed, the blurring effect just looks unnatural to me. I do know this is the initial release and im sure Apple will clean it up in the next few betas.
Took this on a quick break at work. Plus, I needed the afternoon coffee. It's a win-win.
Edit: Definitely needs some work, but it's cool. I agree that it looks a tad unnatural, mainly around the edges of the subject. The blur sort of creeps in on the edges, so they're not perfectly sharp.
Edit: Definitely needs some work, but it's cool. I agree that it looks a tad unnatural, mainly around the edges of the subject. The blur sort of creeps in on the edges, so they're not perfectly sharp.
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Man these pics look artificial AF. I thought apple would do a better job. This is basically Tadaa SLR with a better algorithm.
Why does the top of the cup go wonky blurry?
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I'm not convinced the algorithm is better. Most examples posted look chintzy.
I'll stick with my 5s and Canon EOS 20d (photo attached) from 2005.
But I will say that I don't know any other phones that can compete with the picture quality of the 7+.
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Is that a Rat terrier?
I think it's the software not doing a good job of distinguishing between the cup (object in the forefront) and the images behind the cup, the clear nature of the cup lid may have something to do with and that pic was obviously not taken with ideal lighting
Honestly, with my 6s+, I feel like I can get shots pretty close to what some of these pics posted look like at least for close up shots.
Got lucky, picked up a 7 Plus (256gb matte black) today at my local Apple Store. Loaded up the Dev profile, downloaded 10.1 and took this shot.
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Again for a phone, these are fantastic.
Yes, if we're going to compare them to a DSLR or even some point and shoots, they don't look as natural. But for something that you carry around in your pocket, it's great. How does the expression go? "Best camera you have is the one in your hand".
Yes, if we're going to compare them to a DSLR or even some point and shoots, they don't look as natural. But for something that you carry around in your pocket, it's great. How does the expression go? "Best camera you have is the one in your hand".
It's not going to look great in every instance. But I'm super impressed with some of the shots I'm seeing. With the right subject and background, this can produce some really nice shots, especially considering it fits in your jeans pocket.
It's normal that the edges (eg the ears) are soft. Because dogs have long snouts especially yours, and the ISP splices the image into 9 distinct layers to create a depth map. And every layer gets more blurred the further behind it gets. So your dog's ears are probably at layer 2 or 3, hence receiving some blur. I think it looks pretty realistic in your sample photo.
But nonetheless this is just beta 1 and there'll surely be improvements along the way.
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Yes you can get such shots on the 6s/6s Plus, but only in macro shots, like 3-5cm away from your subject, or the background is really very very far away like mountains at the back. For this depth effect on the 7 Plus you need at least 11" of distance between you and your subject because it uses the narrower 56mm lens as the main shooter with 28mm wide lens giving additional depth info. So you don't need the background to be super far away to start having a blurry background. Therefore it's really meant for portraits of human subjects.
You're missing the point entirely. As Phil said on stage, this wasn't meant to replace dSLR or PnS for that matters. For some people, the iPhone is their only device. Not all people appreciate photography to such extent as to get a PnS or dSLR because it's almost the price of another iPhone. So if the iPhone can simulate what the proper cameras can do, then all the better for consumers who only owns one device. And no other cameras are as convenient as the iSight camera as it can fit in your pocket and it's water resistant now. It goes wherever you go.
And yes, if photography is one's goal, you can be assured that guy already has another proper camera somewhere in his house. But for those whose goal isn't photography, money is saved and they can still simulate nice bokeh shots if the scenario and situation is right.
Took this last night with pretty low light in my room:
Beautiful.
Coming from someone who shoots primarily on a Sony A7 with a multitude of fast Zeiss prime glass, I have to say i'm really quite impressed with the Portrait effect on the 7+. Here's a quick snap I took earlier on (the fall off from the in-focus area and "bokeh" seems quite natural):
