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Andy847

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Some background:
Well, I was contemplating picking up an open box 9.7" Pro this weekend, but when Best Buy's one-day sale price (yesterday) disappeared today, their open box prices also magically jumped up, so the open box price is no longer a deal. Oh well, I expect to see more deals as the holidays approach.

When the Pro came out I thought it was way too big. The 9.7" model was a lot more appealing to me, but part of me is more intrigued by a Mini Pro. I bought a Mini (forget which version, but it has Retina) about a year ago and bought a couple of Bluetooth stylii to play with. I really like the fiftythree pencil design. Feels nice to hold, real wood, and the eraser idea is neat. Unfortunately, the precision is lacking and it can be unpredictable in apps other than Paper. Around that same time, I subscribed my daughter to the Adobe monthly student-plan. She's a freshman in an Art Studio program, but she's fought me on working with technology, as she prefers real paint, pencils, etc. She has tons more talent than me, but playing with the iPad Mini, fiftythree pencil, and Adobe (and other) software rekindled my old interest in drawing. I like the portability of the Mini and since the canvas is virtual, you just zoom in for close up work. That's why I think my ideal Pro might actually be mini-sized. But if I decide to make an impulse buy in the next month, it will probably be a 9.7" model.

rews, I love your work, and vector art along these lines is what I'd like to focus on. Can you provide me with any more details on the workflow you follow, and ideally link me to some tutorials that follow a similar workflow?

My desired end result would be work I'd incorporate into websites, and maybe T-shirts, prints, etc. I have a small side business for web design. It's just a hobby at this point, as my day job as a software developer is where I make my money. But I'd like to get my daughter involved in it and hopefully get her to be more accepting of, and interested in, graphic design, partially because as her father I'm a little worried about what her job prospects will be as an Art Studio major focused on classic media, and would like her more well-rounded with graphic design skills. Other than the web design work (where I've offered to pay her to help me on paying jobs), I figured it would be fun to come up with some humorous or topical t-shirt or print ideas, and it could be a neat side-business idea she could run with.

Hi Hipnetic,
I can't tell you which size to buy, I personally have a 12.9" IPad Pro, but I couldn't imagine going down to a 9.7" IPad Pro. That's just me though, I like having the extra screen real estate to do my drawings on. I use a reference image for most of my work and the 9.7" would be way too cramped when using the side by side windows together on that smaller Ipad size. Go with what you feel works best for you though.

I did want to address what you said about your daughter and her feelings of working digitally instead of the regular mediums used by art students. While those are all good too, I can say as someone who comes from both a drafting and art background, that digital makes things so much better and faster.

My last job I was doing drafting for a company and was in charge of moving them over to CAD, which at the time i was taking classes in at my jr. College. CAD made drafting so much faster and easier for me, I hated when I had to work on the drafting board on old prints that needed updating. I can say the same for Pencil and paper for drawing. Instead of getting the problems of erasing and sometimes wearing through the paper on some artwork, I now can make changes digitally and have the back button in case of mistakes. As a medium, digital drafting/drawing, just seems much faster a process and easier for corrections that need to be done. I do understand where she's coming from on her outlook, but eventually even in her art if pursuing it as a career, I think she will have to have some digital experience.

I think once she tries it and get's use to it, it is amazing what can be done on the Ipad Pro. I have people shocked at some of my drawings that they are done on an Ipad. If you look at some of the amazing work done in this thread by the many talented artists, you'll see that there's a lot of potential for what can be done with the different apps on the Ipad Pro. Hopefully your daughter will see that too. Good luck and look forward to seeing some of your work or hers, when you get one.
 

DaniJoy

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This is a Prisma app effect. Even the frame of the photo you used is visible lol

Thanks for the compliment, it's a drawing, done in front of a mirror. Photos look way more rigid when u use filters. I only draw from life- no tracing. The border is a Instagram fit sizer. Here is the pencil sketch.

Dani Joy, I like your style of artwork. I'm surprised you don't show more on here. I checked your website and like a lot of your sketches even, but I could not get your paintings to show up on my Mac. Not sure if it's a problem of the website or what. Great style though and I like your message as to why you draw, very cool.

thanks Andy, i dont do allot on my ipad, mostly just quick sketches-not really stuff worth showing off. plus i can never remember what i posted here or not, and i cant get search to show that info.
thanks for the info about my website. i was in the middle of updating it as all the work was 3 years old and life got crazy busy. i need to finish it.

also more drawings done on the ipad pro. all from life, with paid models or my friends. 20-30 min poses (sometimes reworked after) . purple clown i think i might have posted before,but i worked more on it. scifi piece took a few hours. I probably wont be using the ipad pro much more, work is buying me a 16" wacom mobile studio pro for my mobile needs. very happy to be back on desktop software. but who knows, i might still draw a little on the ipad.
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Andy847

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Wow, thanks for sharing. I like the color naked sketch with the women with the star on her eye. Not sure if suppose to be Harlequin from Suicide squad, but very good work. I also like a lot of your sci fi stuff as I'm a big fan of that. great work, thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware that Wacom had a mobile model now. I'll have to check it out, but for my needs the Ipad Pro does an awesome job. Love working with it. I'd just like to vary work on some other programs, but find I'm most comfortable in Procreate. Not really a big fan of the Adobe sketch and Draw apps, but I don't use them that much.
[doublepost=1476656601][/doublepost]Wow, $2000 for a Wacom Mobile Pro, glad your company is buying for you. The main reason I love my Ipad Pro, is I don't have to deal with Windows 10, the tablet getting hot when working on it (I had a surface pro 3 and Surface Pro 4 that did that, hated it), so I'm much more comfortable working with the IPad Pro. I know I'm missing out on some of the desktop software, but for my needs the IPP works well enough.
 
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rews

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just out of curiosity, what makes you prefer Draw over Procreate, or an Illustrator-like Graphic?

My first design job was at a motorcycle paintwork company and was pretty much all vector based work, it was my first experience in really using a digital workflow outside of experimenting at college with photoshop, so vector illustration is something I've been doing a while and I used adobe illustrator a lot for design and for illustration before I got an iPad Pro, so being able to start things on my iPad and send them straight to illustrator and continue is something I really like. I have an adobe creative cloud sucsription so I guess I gravitate towards their stuff haha. I do play around with Procreate a bit but as that's a digital painting app I'm not too good with it. I started a Conor McGregor painting in procreate a while back that I've been meaning to finish once I get some free time. (See above)



rews, I love your work, and vector art along these lines is what I'd like to focus on. Can you provide me with any more details on the workflow you follow, and ideally link me to some tutorials that follow a similar workflow?

My desired end result would be work I'd incorporate into websites, and maybe T-shirts, prints, etc. I have a small side business for web design. It's just a hobby at this point, as my day job as a software developer is where I make my money. But I'd like to get my daughter involved in it and hopefully get her to be more accepting of, and interested in, graphic design, partially because as her father I'm a little worried about what her job prospects will be as an Art Studio major focused on classic media, and would like her more well-rounded with graphic design skills. Other than the web design work (where I've offered to pay her to help me on paying jobs), I figured it would be fun to come up with some humorous or topical t-shirt or print ideas, and it could be a neat side-business idea she could run with.

Thanks! There are some really great resources dotted about online for working with vectors, and I think to really understand the medium and be able to get the most from it I'd definitely recommend getting to grips with adobe illustrator or a similar desktop app, that being said my workflow is pretty similar on illustrator as on adobe draw (illustration wise). I posted this video a while back to answer a similar question about my workflow in adobe draw as it does a much better job of explaining things than I would. Hope you find it helpful!

 
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DaniJoy

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Wow, thanks for sharing. I like the color naked sketch with the women with the star on her eye. Not sure if suppose to be Harlequin from Suicide squad, but very good work. I also like a lot of your sci fi stuff as I'm a big fan of that. great work, thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware that Wacom had a mobile model now. I'll have to check it out, but for my needs the Ipad Pro does an awesome job. Love working with it. I'd just like to vary work on some other programs, but find I'm most comfortable in Procreate. Not really a big fan of the Adobe sketch and Draw apps, but I don't use them that much.
[doublepost=1476656601][/doublepost]Wow, $2000 for a Wacom Mobile Pro, glad your company is buying for you. The main reason I love my Ipad Pro, is I don't have to deal with Windows 10, the tablet getting hot when working on it (I had a surface pro 3 and Surface Pro 4 that did that, hated it), so I'm much more comfortable working with the IPad Pro. I know I'm missing out on some of the desktop software, but for my needs the IPP works well enough.

The wacom is more of a mobile workstation , fits my needs better. For me the iPad Pro is a great sketchbook. Love it for painting in bed. I'm still keeping it for sure. I love my iPad too, my main gripes are poor palm rejection and the slick screen. That and I'm still struggling with iOS sometimes. I miss desktop OS and software. Wacom textured glass feels so nice. I agree procreate is very good for a mobile OS. But only 4 gb ram and mobile processor limits me too much.

The mobile pro I'm getting is 3000$ it will be the 16" model. I have not tried it yet, but it's supposed to be quiet and cool this year. I had a cintiq companion2 (iPad Pro replaced it!) and that sucker got hot and loud. But it's just so much more powerful, and I do 3D and allot of photoshop. Plus wacom pen tech is better IMO. I love rotation effects. I need the power. I hope Apple makes a bigger tablet too. I would buy it in a second. I go back and forth between OS X and windows, can't say I see much difference these days, but I know we all have our preferences. I would love a OS X tablet, but there is not one except the mod book. The wacom computers are nicer for art, they are designed for professional artists. Not a consumption tablet with a stylus as a afterthought.

Nice chatting with you, and thanks for the encouragement.

Couple of quick coffee shop sketches. Procreate.
 

Andy847

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Awesome Skull, I love the shading on that also! Quick question, Does Adobe Draw or Sketch have the ability to Blend colors? Now that I think of it, does it have a fill tool also? I think that's why I'm not that comfortable using it, because I can't figure out if it has those abilities in the app.
 
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Andy847

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I just downloaded the Concepts app about a week or so ago. I have yet to really use it, but I downloaded it more for the ability for making floorplans and drafting with. Nice to see a drawing done with it also.
 
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I just downloaded the Concepts app about a week or so ago. I have yet to really use it, but I downloaded it more for the ability for making floorplans and drafting with. Nice to see a drawing done with it also.

Concepts app?
 

rews

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Dylan Rieder portrait. Adobe draw.

Awesome Skull, I love the shading on that also! Quick question, Does Adobe Draw or Sketch have the ability to Blend colors? Now that I think of it, does it have a fill tool also? I think that's why I'm not that comfortable using it, because I can't figure out if it has those abilities in the app.

Thanks man. There isn't a gradient tool like in adobe illustrator on OSX or a way to blend colours together like in procreate or similar digital painting apps. But I'm quite into using 4/5/6/whatever colours and then trying to convey depth and tone with line work and layering stuff, so it's not really something I miss. You can fill an area quickly in adobe draw by drawing the shape you want to fill and then pressing down within the shape for a couple of seconds
 

Andy847

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Thanks, at least it has the fill option. Yes, I do see in your drawings how you use the different shades of a color to mimic blending and different shading characteristics. I actually tried that technique awhile back, but in Procreate. With that rear view of a naked woman I drew. I actually like that way with peoples skin, because I have a hard time getting blending down good. Great work on the Dylan Rieder portrait.
 
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@rews and @DaniJoy awesome images guys..... at least I know what my iPad Pro and pencil are capable of, those the problem lies at the other end of the pencil...
 
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