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Honestly a just solid 4GB of ram available is plenty! You definitely could never use all of 6GB even if you tried. The problem with the 4GB iPads is, they really only have 3.69GB available before it is even turned on. After iOS is up and running you’ve got around 2.8GB available. So it can all be used up pretty easily.

So, I can assure you 6GB is overkill and more than enough in a iPad Pro.
I have reason to believe that Apple is going to do a stealth upgrade to the existing Pros this Oct/Nov and bump the 512GB models to 6GB RAM. ;)
 
I have reason to believe that Apple is going to do a stealth upgrade to the existing Pros this Oct/Nov and bump the 512GB models to 6GB RAM. ;)

They should. And it would actually be a really great idea. Other than making current 512GB owners upset lol.
 
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gdeusthewhizkid...suggest you wait to install iPad OS. That is a significant release and there will most likely be some bugs initially. Apple usually sends out a rev in the weeks following a major upgrade to address the kinks...I like to wait for that one before I download.
 
Now that a couple more rumours have come out what does everyone think?

I’m keen to get an iPad Pro because I can get it on 0% finance with Apple until Aug 8th.

However, what if an OLED version comes out this year!

Who thinks a new one will come out?
 
Now that a couple more rumours have come out what does everyone think?

I’m keen to get an iPad Pro because I can get it on 0% finance with Apple until Aug 8th.

However, what if an OLED version comes out this year!

Who thinks a new one will come out?

Looks like new ones are coming lol
[doublepost=1562805073][/doublepost]by The way finally got iPad os on the iPad Pro 11 and it’s def amazing. The new iPad Pro is def a work of art.
 
I do think the ram issue is at play here especially in Safari for iPados. I have noticed websites getting released from memory after loading a heavy desktop website, (for my use case Google Ads). So if you have 3-4 desktop heavy websites that you work with, you want them to not reload every time.

This has been an issue for iPads with 2gb of ram and that was when we are dealing with mobile websites. It will be much more of a pain now.

Also desktop websites that are used in professional settings are different beasts. These are bloated websites that were programmed to take as much memory as available in the Mac while burning your fans.

There will be software where the app is a better experience but less powerful than what is in their browser. This is definitely in my equation when waiting or buying the current ones.
 
I do think the ram issue is at play here especially in Safari for iPados. I have noticed websites getting released from memory after loading a heavy desktop website, (for my use case Google Ads). So if you have 3-4 desktop heavy websites that you work with, you want them to not reload every time.

This has been an issue for iPads with 2gb of ram and that was when we are dealing with mobile websites. It will be much more of a pain now.

Also desktop websites that are used in professional settings are different beasts. These are bloated websites that were programmed to take as much memory as available in the Mac while burning your fans.

There will be software where the app is a better experience but less powerful than what is in their browser. This is definitely in my equation when waiting or buying the current ones.
So you’re running iPad OS and this is the behavior you’ve seen? On which iPad? Well, I hope they do bump the memory on iPads soon. Normally I’d think the current 2018 iPad Pros were pretty future proof, but with the amount of change coming with iPadOS, I feel like the jury is still out on that.

How much RAM would you like to see in the iPad? I can’t imagine a dramatic increase on the pro line, but who knows.
 
So you’re running iPad OS and this is the behavior you’ve seen? On which iPad? Well, I hope they do bump the memory on iPads soon. Normally I’d think the current 2018 iPad Pros were pretty future proof, but with the amount of change coming with iPadOS, I feel like the jury is still out on that.

How much RAM would you like to see in the iPad? I can’t imagine a dramatic increase on the pro line, but who knows.


Desktop-class web apps are known for hogging ram and are usually made with desktop computers as the target, while native apps are constrained with iOS frameworks and have strict memory management and return states. I am pretty sure Apple will be thoughtful in managing memory but at some point the only way is to force close those heavy tabs or introduce memory swaps with the SSD only on these Safari tabs.
 
So you’re running iPad OS and this is the behavior you’ve seen? On which iPad? Well, I hope they do bump the memory on iPads soon. Normally I’d think the current 2018 iPad Pros were pretty future proof, but with the amount of change coming with iPadOS, I feel like the jury is still out on that.

How much RAM would you like to see in the iPad? I can’t imagine a dramatic increase on the pro line, but who knows.

So I did an anecdotal test.

I have the first generation iPad Pro 12.9 with 4gb of ram.

I loaded apple.com in 30 tabs before I got my first full reload.

Then I loaded Google sheets. I was able to open 10 Google sheets documents before I got my first full reload. The google sheets that's I opened had 40 rows of data on one sheet. So it is a pretty light sheet.

YMMV but I can see myself loading 2 google sheets, 1 google docs document , 2 Wordpress instances and 1 google analytics tab, and be in reload hell.

On the other hand maybe if you treat your iPadPro as a single focus device and be less switchy on tabs then it will work.
 
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So I did an anecdotal test.

I have the first generation iPad Pro 12.9 with 4gb of ram.

I loaded apple.com in 30 tabs before I got my first full reload.

Then I loaded Google sheets. I was able to open 10 Google sheets documents before I got my first full reload. The google sheets that's I opened had 40 rows of data on one sheet. So it is a pretty light sheet.

YMMV but I can see myself loading 2 google sheets, 1 google docs document , 2 Wordpress instances and 1 google analytics tab, and be in reload hell.

On the other hand maybe if you treat your iPadPro as a single focus device and be less switchy on tabs then it will work.
First — sorry for the tangent, but on the original 12.9” iPad running iPadOS, the browser feels faster than your MacBook Pro? (Read your comments on the mouse thread). I didn’t expect that. (I’m still using gen 1 iPad Pros and have been going back and forth on buying the current gen or waiting to see if there’s an update this fall.)

Second— I didn’t even consider that the Pro has always had 4gb (aside from the 2018 1tb model). I’ve seen some sentiment on the forums that Apple should bump all the Pro models up to 6gb. Maybe that’s closer to what Apple seems likely to do, but I’m starting to think I’d like to see more— like 8gb at least to give it some headroom.
 
I will wait at least till when the iPadOS tells me whether it will slow down a few critical apos I am using.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if they release refreshed iPad Pros in September/October. Some small improvements to remove the kinks and bring them to the standard of the then current iPhones.

- stronger shell
- 6 GB RAM for all models
- A13X
- newer, better camera
...

I was very close to ordering an iPad Pro 11 after they announced iPad OS and I got my tax refund the same day. But the bending issue let me hesitate and then I blew the money on other stuff.

I would be surprised if they release new ipad this year.
 
There won’t be a spec update this year, so a fine time to buy, for photo and especially video editing the iPad isn’t a great choice get a MacBook/pro, iPads are cool to consume but too many limitations when trying to create. I love them sure but from a Pro this not the best device for editing video - fact.
 
I would be surprised if they release new ipad this year.
At least some new iPads are coming this year, they've already registered 5 new iPad models with the EU regulators. I very much doubt they've done that for fun or this far in advance for a 2020 release. I guess they might not be Pros but as they currently have 5 iPads in the lineup (2 x Pro, Air, iPad, Mini) and have registered 5 new ones all of them might well be getting refreshed.
 
... for photo and especially video editing the iPad isn’t a great choice get a MacBook/pro, iPads are cool to consume but too many limitations when trying to create. I love them sure but from a Pro this not the best device for editing video - fact.

What? I'll buy a iPad Pro 12.9 epecially for photo editing.
Lightroom mobile, Pixelmator Photo, Darkroom, Affinity...

Editing photos with the iPad is great. It's fast, intuitive, an also precise if you use the pencil for retouching and masks etc.
 
At least some new iPads are coming this year, they've already registered 5 new iPad models with the EU regulators. I very much doubt they've done that for fun or this far in advance for a 2020 release. I guess they might not be Pros but as they currently have 5 iPads in the lineup (2 x Pro, Air, iPad, Mini) and have registered 5 new ones all of them might well be getting refreshed.
I dunno 5 is a lot for non pros......might not mean we see pros this year though.
 
So I did an anecdotal test.

I have the first generation iPad Pro 12.9 with 4gb of ram.

I loaded apple.com in 30 tabs before I got my first full reload.

Then I loaded Google sheets. I was able to open 10 Google sheets documents before I got my first full reload. The google sheets that's I opened had 40 rows of data on one sheet. So it is a pretty light sheet.

YMMV but I can see myself loading 2 google sheets, 1 google docs document , 2 Wordpress instances and 1 google analytics tab, and be in reload hell.

On the other hand maybe if you treat your iPadPro as a single focus device and be less switchy on tabs then it will work.
I thought this experiment was interesting:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21071311/how-much-memory-can-one-ios-app-use

some dude on stackoverflow said:
I wrote a test app that measures how much memory an app can allocate before it's killed. Here are the numbers:
  • iPhone 5s (iOS 10, debug mode, 1GB memory): 600MB can be allocated
  • iPad Air 2 (iOS 11.4, 2GB memory): 1.3GB can be allocated
  • iPhone X (iOS 11.4, 3GB memory): 1.2GB can be allocated
  • iPhone 7 Plus (iOS 12.1, 3GB memory): 1.8GB can be allocated
  • iPad 13-inch (iOS 11.4, 4GB memory): 3GB can be allocated
It's interesting that I never got a memory warning.
If this can be extrapolated to iPadOS 13, then it would mean that on a 6 GB iPad Pro, a single app might actually be able to address up to 4.5 GB or so (assuming you aren't multitasking).
 
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Desktop-class web apps are known for hogging ram and are usually made with desktop computers as the target, while native apps are constrained with iOS frameworks and have strict memory management and return states. I am pretty sure Apple will be thoughtful in managing memory but at some point the only way is to force close those heavy tabs or introduce memory swaps with the SSD only on these Safari tabs.
I think starting with iOS 9, Safari began caching webpages to disk. I'd go back to old tabs and while the tab does re-render, the content is from several weeks or even months back. Caveat, caching doesn't seem to work with JavaScript/dynamic pages (understandable).

I do wonder of Apple will consider storage-backed virtual memory once the base storage model goes up to 128GB.
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If this can be extrapolated to iPadOS 13, then it would mean that on a 6 GB iPad Pro, a single app might actually be able to address up to 4.5 GB or so (assuming you aren't multitasking).
I don't think we have to wait until iPadOS 13. @tps3443 already had tasks that were memory limited on 4GB but worked fine on 6GB. I reckon it's safe to assume iOS 12 allows apps to use more than 3GB on 6GB RAM iPads.
 
I thought this experiment was interesting:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21071311/how-much-memory-can-one-ios-app-use


If this can be extrapolated to iPadOS 13, then it would mean that on a 6 GB iPad Pro, a single app might actually be able to address up to 4.5 GB or so (assuming you aren't multitasking).

This is cool! However these apps will be written knowing these constraints, so even the most powerful apps as long as they are native will be designed within these constraints. Because if they go over the memory limit, the app will crash and it will be the developer's fault.

However, desktop class web apps are different beasts, since they are not written to optimize for the iPad or iOS. Websites are known to leak memory on the desktop so how would the iPad handle that other than reloading the tab? If Safari crashes, it is Apple's fault.
 
Thanks guys.. I just got home with a brand new iPad Pro 11 inch 256 gb celluar. As i needed for school that I’m starting in the fall.. I didnt think i would like Face ID but it is def fast and has given me no problem.. Question. Should i just wait for the fall for ipad OS. Or should i try to install it on my new iPad Pro. And leave my 10.5 as is...
I would put the beta on the 10.5 if I were you but saying that i’ve Had no issues with the beta on mine.
 
the only issue with iPads right now is the darn keyboard case. i don't see apple touching that for a long while.
 
This whole wait for 5G point has me nervous and at least skeptical. I guess my biggest concern is that AT&T really is false advertising their 5G E just to be "first" when it's not even "real". This makes me believe that we are a long way off from having the standard tech for 5G and being able to implement it. So you may buy a 2020 device that is "5G ready" only to find out in 2022 and beyond that real 5G requires different tech to achieve speeds of the "real" standard.

I'd sit on the sideline for 5G until it is proven and defined...
 
I was all for waiting for the next version or refresh but the BB deal right now for $200 off the 12.9 plus I had a $100 gift card burning a hole in my pocket for 6 months made me finally take the plunge.

I am super excited but now need to research keyboards, screen protectors and all that jazz.

I figure this thing will last me at minimum 3-5 years if I really wanted it to until some major redesign and with the savings I can resell near purchase price or so or give to my son by then.

Very excited to join this iPad family!!!
 
I was all for waiting for the next version or refresh but the BB deal right now for $200 off the 12.9 plus I had a $100 gift card burning a hole in my pocket for 6 months made me finally take the plunge.

I am super excited but now need to research keyboards, screen protectors and all that jazz.

I figure this thing will last me at minimum 3-5 years if I really wanted it to until some major redesign and with the savings I can resell near purchase price or so or give to my son by then.

Very excited to join this iPad family!!!

Congrats! Made the plunge too. I ordered the Brydge keyboard because I've always wanted to try it, and, because Logitech changed their design for the 3rd gen iPP. Definitely the typing experience is not up to par with everything else the keyboard has to offer. Would I buy it again? Only if they soften the keys. I might be too used to Apple keyboards now haha. Good luck on your search~
 
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Congrats! Made the plunge too. I ordered the Brydge keyboard because I've always wanted to try it, and, because Logitech changed their design for the 3rd gen iPP. Definitely the typing experience is not up to par with everything else the keyboard has to offer. Would I buy it again? Only if they soften the keys. I might be too used to Apple keyboards now haha. Good luck on your search~

Thank you for that feedback as it was on the list. I may wait to see if any deals come along for the accessories.

I got AC+ but do many feel a screen protector is needed to prevent scratches with the pencil? Also the apple keyboard touches the screen so i am concerned about that too.
 
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