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The Cockney Rebel

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That’s good, I’m glad you’re enjoying it. The vast majority of what I’ve read/watched from various websites, but more importantly to me, end users. Seems overwhelmingly positive, which kind of gets me more excited to finally play with mine.

I’m not waiting on a delivery, well not really, mine has been at my parents for weeks now. I’m just not allowed to get my hands on it until Christmas Day...... 2 days and counting, I can almost smell that new Apple whiff as I open the box :D
I love the buildup ... :)
 
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spiderman0616

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Well. If the charge is lasting you 7 days with heavy usage its astounding. What's your on-screen time per day?

I have not updated to Big Sur 11.1 as read few complaints about it. How is it on your MBA? Any issues, especially regarding the battery?
I wouldn't say "heavy" usage (yet). I would say daily medium usage ranging anywhere from 1-3 hours a day, sometimes a little more than that. I haven't done any major projects on it yet, but have played a lot of Apple Arcade games and watched a lot of video. Also been learning Affinity Publisher, so that's been used a lot too. After the holidays I'm sure I'll start using this machine for tasks other than entertaining myself, but even so, my iPad Pro would have had to be charged every 2 or 3 days with this kind of usage. It's so seldom that I have to do it that I'm taken aback every time the battery warning comes up because I never look at the battery gauge.

As far as battery life with 11.1, no change there. As far as everything else, no change there either, honestly. 11.1 has been solid for me so far.
 

SlCKB0Y

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Compared to my Early-2015 13inch MBP base model the M1 MBP is a big leap. But, the battery is not exactly what the reviewers had me believe to be. That's a bit let down.
Do you have Chrome installed?

 
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Clausewitz

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Do you have Chrome installed?


Nops. Only Safari.
 

Silvestru Hosszu

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I bought the MBP 16/512. Like it so far with one glaring exception.
Scrolling through web pages is still unacceptably choppy like on my 16" MBP, and yes, I'm using Safari.
For example scrolling on a page here on MR forums is far from being smooth.
 

mo5214

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I just received mine (M1 MBA 16GB/ 1 TB) yesterday and had been playing around with it. The performance is as impressive as expected. (For reference I ran the same (Cinebench R15) got 100fps opengl test and 1000-ish cb on cpu multi. All that on Rosetta)

But....

i had big problems with how locked down Big Sur is and the Macbook itself.

You lose the ability to freely mod system files in this version. Even with SIP and ARV disabled you would still need to “re-seal” the volume once it has been modified. There is way to bypass this (and run on live system as opposed to a “sealed” apfs snapshot) on my older Intel Macs but the same method doesn’t work on new M1 Macs.

I eventually broke the install trying to solve this (and eventually. recovery, as I ran rm-rf / in recovery in anger)

Now, with intel Macs you have internet recovery when things got messed up. On this thing? Tough luck if this thing dies on you in the field with no second mac around as this machine can either do external boot, or get into DFU mode and use Apple Configurator 2 on a second mac (So this is a giant iDevice now?) Which somehow require that your second Mac running it must be at least same version as your dead mac. (According to MRMacintosh site)

This is where am stuck with for now, as the MBA keeps disconnecting from my host mac while I am trying to “revive” it using the configurator.

Personally, It think new design is terrible. Title bars are wayyyy too thick, wasting screen real estate, new alert sounds are yucky, Apple’s own services bypass firewall, AS Macs wont run iOS apps with SIP off, icons, etc...<insert other nitpick here>

but my take away is this:
If Apple is going to do limit my control over my own hardware, the least they could do is make software at least customizableand recovery experience not this aggravating.

Chances are that I am returning this.
 

scgf

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I bought the MBP 16/512. Like it so far with one glaring exception.
Scrolling through web pages is still unacceptably choppy like on my 16" MBP, and yes, I'm using Safari.
For example scrolling on a page here on MR forums is far from being smooth.
Yes, I agree. Safari is awful. Some say it is down to Big Sur problem, rather than the M1 Macs. I won't use Safari because of the scrolling. Firefox isn't much better. The best native browser for smooth scrolling is Microsoft Edge. The Canary build has a version for Apple Silicon. If on a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is super smooth scrolling, I'd say Safari is 3, but Edge is 8.5. Give it a try. Google Chrome is a 7.
 
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Deliro

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Do you have Chrome installed?


Yeah, maybe my expectations were thrown off by all the claims I've been reading. My MBA gets about 10 hours or so it seems. I do not use Chrome, only Safari. My usage is mixed. Light YouTube, browsing, and a couple of 60 min Zoom calls. I was installing some software though, so I'll see how it does on the next charge.
 
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Silvestru Hosszu

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Yes, I agree. Safari is awful. Some say it is down to Big Sur problem, rather than the M1 Macs. I won't use Safari because of the scrolling. Firefox isn't much better. The best native browser for smooth scrolling is Microsoft Edge. The Canary build has a version for Apple Silicon. If on a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is super smooth scrolling, I'd say Safari is 3, but Edge is 8.5. Give it a try. Google Chrome is a 7.
Do you have by chance a download link for the canary build for m1?
 
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The Cockney Rebel

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That’s good, I’m glad you’re enjoying it. The vast majority of what I’ve read/watched from various websites, but more importantly to me, end users. Seems overwhelmingly positive, which kind of gets me more excited to finally play with mine.

I’m not waiting on a delivery, well not really, mine has been at my parents for weeks now. I’m just not allowed to get my hands on it until Christmas Day...... 2 days and counting, I can almost smell that new Apple whiff as I open the box :D
Nearly there, bud.

Nearly there :) .
 

The Cockney Rebel

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I bought the MBP 16/512. Like it so far with one glaring exception.
Scrolling through web pages is still unacceptably choppy like on my 16" MBP, and yes, I'm using Safari.
For example scrolling on a page here on MR forums is far from being smooth.
You’re probably used to ProMotion on the iPad Pro?
 

Silvestru Hosszu

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Nope, I compare it with my much more pedestrian windows laptops: LG Gram 15 and Huawei MateBook X Pro, both with 8th Gen Intel processors.
Both offer much smoother browser scrolling.
 

Deliro

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Good question, and I even installed some ad blocker to decongest the sites.
I get chop in Safari as well. Nothing really running in the background. I have Firefox installed as my backup but I heard battery life is compromised. I’ll try Microsoft Edge the M1 optimized version.
 

scgf

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My scrolling is silky smooth - I wonder why you are getting chop?

A lot of people are having a choppy scrolling issue. Are you using a track pad? I have a Mac Mini with an Apple Magic Mouse 2. Anyone with this combination seeing smooth scrolling with Safari? What about on an external monitor?
 
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Lowhangers

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I don't see any problem with scrolling on Safari (with trackpad) either.
Same. Safari works great for me on M1 mini. I use Ghostery and other content blockers though to stop the ad trackers from loading. I would not mind the ads so much if they didn't track me.
 

scgf

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I just searched for "smooth scroll" on this site and got loads of posters complaining about choppy scrolling. I don't know why some people get smooth scrolling and others don't.
 

Quackington

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Do you have Chrome installed?

I like that this is a thing to be wary of now. Although I don’t use Chrome on my MBP, I had it installed and got rid of it earlier in the week, along with the various files and folders in the library. I still have it on my MBA, but that laptop is over 9 years old now, can’t be bothered removing it from there.
 
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abhi182

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TL;DR : Extremely pleased with mine

I never quite liked my MBP 13 2019 TB - It was a replacement for an ageing 2015 MacBook 12 that I absolutely loved despite the puny processor
In comparison - the MBP always felt like a rock baking under the hot Indian summer sun...
and while it was certainly snappier/faster than the MB12 - but the heat and unpredictable battery life was difficult to live with
I in fact ended up buying a LG Gram 14 within a year of that purchase despite my general dislike for windows

This one fixes everything I hated about the MBP!
It runs cool (actually too cold - if there is such a thing)
The battery life seems ridiculously good so far
Yet , yet, and rather counterintuitively, so It's a whole lot snappier/quicker at everything that I need to use it for (browsing/ MS Office/ IM/ VoIP )
Folks with specialised use cases may have a different take or experience- but for a regular guy , this is by far the best laptop I have used - without reservations
 

Sodner

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Coming from a Mid 2017 12" MacBook the M1 is fantastic. Speed & screen are wonderful. Only downside is the additional weight.
 
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