Seems to be how humans now deal with each other.
*sigh* Yes, especially when not face to face, though increasingly even when we are. And I am not guiltless here, either, though I aim for better.
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iPhone X So much hate for the iPhone X
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*sigh* Yes, especially when not face to face, though increasingly even when we are. And I am not guiltless here, either, though I aim for better.
Technically you are correct but I am happy to stick by that and a lot of people would agree it’s fair.
Exactly. Price and worth is entirely subjective. The price is only objectively too high if no one buys it.
It's my opinion, too. I know, you get what you pay for. But still, this phone is really, really expensive. I feel like I was forced into biting the bullet, and had to convert to Apple's device leasing strategy, AKA the IUP. But there isn't one technical thing about the X that I don't like.
Whats the big deal? If you like the phone, buy it and use it. Who cares what other people think. Geeezzz.
Traveling down the road of public opinion can be a dark and ugly place.
Traveling down the road of public opinion can be a dark and ugly place.
Yeah...I like just about everything about it. I don't fully agree on it being very good for one handed operation, but I suppose that depends on the size of the hands and what you're comparing it to. I can operate it one-handed just fine (enough that I often do just that), but it requires just a little more stretch and a few more grip adjustments than my old iPhone 6 did. I think it's getting easier as I'm getting used to invoking reachability. I think the last iphone I had that was truly easy for me to operate one-handed was the iPhone 5. The display is beautiful, but not perfect due to the pink/blue shift on mine as I tilt it. That seems pretty common and is at least only noticeable to me in low light when the brightness is at or closed to the lowest level. On the plus side the iPhone X gives me dual camera in a smaller form factor than the 8+, the screen size is fantastic, I actually like the taller aspect ratio more than I expected I would, the notch doesn't bother me, the lack of a home button doesn't bother me (I go back and forth between my X and my iPad and I'd be happy to get rid of the home button on the iPad), and I really like FaceID. Yes there are times when it doesn't work (like when I'm in bed on my side with my face half buried in a pillow), but it usually works and its like not having a lock on the phone at all. It just seems more convenient than TouchID to me. The dot projector tech is also cool. I've played with animoji and a facial recognition game. This tech is definitely in the early stages, but it's cool to get a glimpse of where things are quickly headed. Mostly I'm just enjoying using the much better camera capabilities.I also really appreciate the convenience of wireless charging.
What's interesting to me is that the three things people have been most negative about (the notch, FaceID, and lack of a home button) have been non-issues for me.
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"What's interesting to me is that the three things people have been most negative about (the notch, FaceID, and lack of a home button) have been non-issues for me."
We all use phones differently. Things that are a non-issue for other people might be a usability disaster for you or me. Examples: using the phone on a desk or table; using the phone in landscape mode or when lying in bed; using apps that show the notch and/or being bothered by the notch in general; using the phone one-handed. The X has really given me an appreciation for how differently people use their phones and how the hardware and software works for them (or doesn't). I hate to say it, but I think I sort of assumed that other people used their phones more or less the same way I do. Turns out that isn't true at all!
I am still yet to meet anybody away from an Internet forum that owns an iPhone X so I haven’t witnessed negativity as such. The only negative opinions have been about the price of it but that’s usually done as a laugh because those people don’t intend to buy it.
I think it would be more widely praised if it was aimed at the mass market. At the moment it’s niche and easy to judge negatively.
I think it would be more widely praised if it was aimed at the mass market. At the moment it’s niche and easy to judge negatively.
That is a subjective opinion.
For example, I strongly dislike the X's camera bump. I've not liked that bump at all since the introduction of it with the 6/6+ and it became even uglier with the 7/7+. It's a friggin' abscess now with the X.
But my opinion is ALSO subjective.
You can't understand my opinion because YOUR opinion is that it's a very nice design. We are at cross purposes.
But if YOU like it, that's all that matters in regards to owning it for yourself.
This is a non issue to me. I have a 6s+. I handle it with two hands. I have an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 4s. I handle them both with two hands.
Why? Because I am not about to explain to my wife why it was that I dropped and smashed a ~$900 phone because I was handling it with ONE hand.
This may be a thing for a lot of people, but I certainly is not a thing for me. Sorry.
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You have to be jealous first though.Jealousy breeds hate.
"What's interesting to me is that the three things people have been most negative about (the notch, FaceID, and lack of a home button) have been non-issues for me."
We all use phones differently. Things that are a non-issue for other people might be a usability disaster for you or me. Examples: using the phone on a desk or table; using the phone in landscape mode or when lying in bed; using apps that show the notch and/or being bothered by the notch in general; using the phone one-handed. The X has really given me an appreciation for how differently people use their phones and how the hardware and software works for them (or doesn't). I hate to say it, but I think I sort of assumed that other people used their phones more or less the same way I do. Turns out that isn't true at all!
Well said, and I would add that in addition to differences in how we use our phones there are also differences in how well some of us tolerate annoyances. There are things that I recognize as minor annoyances, but they may be deal breakers for others. The very first day I put the iPhone X down on my desk at work, I experienced the issue with Face ID not being easy to unlock unless you lean over the phone or pick up the phone. I can understand how that would be a major problem for some, but I pulled an old smartphone holder out of my drawer and put my iPhone into that. Now I can more easily see, unlock, and use my iPhone when it is on my desk. Lying in bed is a minor annoyance in my book, because I can just pick my head up a few inches to unlock the phone, but yeah...some people would hate that. I just see it as trading one minor annoyance for another (with FaceID, the phone now unlocks while wearing gloves or with wet/sweaty hands).
I don't have an X, but I happen to like the notch a lot. I don't see it an an intrusion into the screen area, I see it as two little expansions to the screen area. I think the perception is a glass half full, half empty type of thing.
But I won't get an X because I really like the small physical size of the SE. In fact I wish they'd do an X treatment to the SE with a bigger screen via removal of the bezels. I'd buy a SEX model in a heartbeat.
Don't quote that out of context, LOL.
But I won't get an X because I really like the small physical size of the SE. In fact I wish they'd do an X treatment to the SE with a bigger screen via removal of the bezels. I'd buy a SEX model in a heartbeat.
Don't quote that out of context, LOL.
I’ve seen the hate and it just makes me laugh and feel sad for people.
I love my X and everything about it otherwise I wouldn’t have it and people are always going to hate things.
The notch doesn’t bother and it’s in someways unique. Face ID is great and the lack of home button thing doesn’t bother me.
I’m 37 and remember back in the early 2000’s when the stylus was the main way to navigate a phone.
Then 2007 came and I had to learn to use a home button and iPhone. My point is device navigation is going to keep evolving and for me it’s an easy learning curve. Can’t image how when we get to thought based hardware with no physical phone device at all how people are going to really feel.
I love my X and everything about it otherwise I wouldn’t have it and people are always going to hate things.
The notch doesn’t bother and it’s in someways unique. Face ID is great and the lack of home button thing doesn’t bother me.
I’m 37 and remember back in the early 2000’s when the stylus was the main way to navigate a phone.
Then 2007 came and I had to learn to use a home button and iPhone. My point is device navigation is going to keep evolving and for me it’s an easy learning curve. Can’t image how when we get to thought based hardware with no physical phone device at all how people are going to really feel.
I just walked into the Apple store about 2 weeks ago and got an unlocked iPhone X w/256 storage. I had to adjust to the swipe up to close, and a few oddities in System Preferences, but no real issues. I have it set to flash the camera light when a message/phone call comes in (in Accessibility). I love the new screen. I'm not thrilled with lack of home button. but after a few days I didn't notice anymore. I had iTunes re-install all of my apps (I just did a restore from my iPhone 6), did not lose any data (took about 10 mins to reload the apps). I would imagine that most of the iPhone X users don't have any complaints.
I think talking about hate in the context is a bit overboard. The typical "hater" is probably some Android fanboy who wouldn't buy an iPhone in the first place and just needs room to troll.
As for me, I got it on day one and I was rather neutral. I tend to buy each iteration, so there wasn't much thought involved. Upon taking it home, I immediately liked the screen quality, tap-to-wake (funny that's actually a "feature" in a 2017 phone) as well as the awesome integration of browser login/password management via FaceID. Swiping between apps from the bottom. Swipe up to close. Beautiful.
Then after a while I noticed just how tall and narrow that screen really is. The screen ratio is completely out of whack and any movie in landscape is about as big as watching it on a non-plus device. Meh. Also, reaching several miles up just to reach the control center started to become a nuisance. Gesture consistency across iDevices is horrible right now.
So in the end, it went back to Apple after 14 days and here I am back with my 8+. Let them tinker for another year. Not seeing hate here, it just isn't for me at this particular point in time. *shrugs*
Whoever happens to like it — more power to you!
As for me, I got it on day one and I was rather neutral. I tend to buy each iteration, so there wasn't much thought involved. Upon taking it home, I immediately liked the screen quality, tap-to-wake (funny that's actually a "feature" in a 2017 phone) as well as the awesome integration of browser login/password management via FaceID. Swiping between apps from the bottom. Swipe up to close. Beautiful.
Then after a while I noticed just how tall and narrow that screen really is. The screen ratio is completely out of whack and any movie in landscape is about as big as watching it on a non-plus device. Meh. Also, reaching several miles up just to reach the control center started to become a nuisance. Gesture consistency across iDevices is horrible right now.
So in the end, it went back to Apple after 14 days and here I am back with my 8+. Let them tinker for another year. Not seeing hate here, it just isn't for me at this particular point in time. *shrugs*
Whoever happens to like it — more power to you!
Here is my problem with this though…
If someone does not share your opinion, or even if they have no opinion - does that then equal hate?
Perhaps it does not with you, but with some of the users here there is no gray area. If you don't love an Apple product you therefore automatically (in their eyes) hate it.
I dislike ONE particular thing about the iPhone X and don't really care one way or the other about the notch. If my one issue with the X was fixed to my liking I would like the phone. But that one particular thing often classifies me as hating the phone - which I do not.
So, the extremism that the OP sees is sometimes colored by a user's own opinions. Especially if those opinions do not allow for anything other than FOR or AGAINST.
I found it compromised even w/ Reachability. I do have smaller than average hands though - if I had a span of 8+ inches from bottom of palm to tip of middle finger I may feel differently.
It's a difference from the + models which feel like small tablets and encourage two-handed use. I can understand that market even if it's not for me... the X feels like something in-between.
As a piece of tech and industrial design it's awesome. I just couldn't get over the UX issues imposed by the form-factor. I wanted to adapt but sadly I preferred the ergonomics of my SE over the cool new tech in the X and returned it after 10 days.
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If someone does or does not share my opinion I don’t care either way.
I’ve had folks use generalizations to say people only purchased iPhone X because of the name and a few posters attempted to argue with me about why my purchase was wrong.
You can search many of the iPhone X threads and see how they have gone off the rails so it’s not just the OP.
I don’t think if someone dislikes an Apple product you hate it and if you do that’s your opinion and I won’t ask you why. But it feels almost like an interrogation when folks who see someone who loves their iPhone X are asked questions about it.
I am under no obligation regardless of this being a message board or not to respond to questions that are asked in a way to create drama.
Honestly I used to be against that point of view but the more folks keep telling me “ I spent too much money” “you know you can’t afford” or “ they priced me out” it would seem that some folks do have that issue.
Don’t get me wrong I work hard to buy things I want to so I am not humble bragging but I am also not going to feel ashamed over having it either.
But when people keep making a huge deal about the price over and over again it’s real easy to connect where the dots lead to for some.
The iPhone X is a cool device but if a purchase causes financial anxiety then go for one of the other iPhones that is easier on your nerves. In the end it's another gadget. I went through the same sort of thing with a car I bought about ten years ago. Don't spend a lot of money to make yourself unhappy.
No hate here. Best iPhone\Mobile phone I've ever owned. Love it.
Lets be fair you’ve taken other people’s views on here very personally at times. I had a discussion with you about the price of the X and we had very different views but I felt our exchange was civil and respectful. You on the other hand interpreted it as me ‘bullying’ you. I am still completely bewildered by that? I’ve never suggested we shouldn’t buy what we like and can afford and your purchase decisions do not offend others like you’ve claimed.
I generally tend to stay out of the X threads simply because I don't own the phone so I have nothing to contribute. This particular thread though was about hating on it, so I commented.
All I am saying is that there is extremism on this on both sides and that saying someone hates a product just because they do not love it or love it to the same degree as another person is just as bad as the troll who comes in and has nothing positive to say about the product at all.
Now I am not accusing you of anything either way, so don't get me wrong. I'm just pointing out my observations when it comes to the various threads on hatred of an Apple product.