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scjr

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It might be "smoother" but the 6 is not faster. I did find some micro-stutters here and there, but the 6s will demolish the 6 on virtually any activity; not limited to web browsing and movie editing and more.

This. ^

Smoother animations, but hardware if far superior.
 
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jonnyb098

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Yeah,
9.1 on my brother's iPhone 5S is super smooth. On his Air it's a different story.

On my Air 2 it's mostly OK now since the update but the Music app is still problematic as well as Google Photos app.
the music app overall on iPad is a bag of hurt. It's much more stable on iPhone. The iPad app doesn't take on the color scheme when browsing albums. Stutters like crazy when browsing an artists page with lots of albums. Graphical glitches everywhere like misaligned text, album art not showing as a square on the right pane when in an album. Tapping the ... In now playing to go to an artist almost always results in the white unknown album screen. 5 months later and all these issues. What's sad is Apple Music has tons of potential. It's just riddled with that most ridiculous bugs and glitches on iPad that would typically NEVER make it out of the beta stage.
 
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Rich_B

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First time I've ever found myself needing to post on a forum about anything like this. However my iPad Air is now borderline unusable since ios9 update. So much lag, very unpleasant to use. I've tried all obivous remedies. My question is: Have Apple acknowledged this as being an issue and are there any indications that ios 9.2 will improve things? How can this be brought to Apple's attention if it hasn't already? I can't understand how performance can deteriorate so much when not much seems to have changed since ios 8? Any comments welcome!
 
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scjr

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I never said the hardware is superior. Of course the 6S is better on paper. But I'm not seeing it due to IOS9. Something is up.
Yes, iOS 9 needs to tweaked. Just like iOS 8 needed to be tweaked.

iOS 9 is not smoother here on my 6+, but more stable when compared to 8.4.1. I'd rather have the stability right now. I would like that they work out the issues with fluidity, but I don't miss 8.4.1 at all.
 
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Radon87000

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It might be "smoother" but the 6 is not faster. I did find some micro-stutters here and there, but the 6s will demolish the 6 on virtually any activity; not limited to web browsing and movie editing and more.
It will only "demolish" till iPhone 7 is out.Than Apple will cripple it just like it did for Air 2 and iPhone 6 so it performs like a Android device
 

Zaft

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First time I've ever found myself needing to post on a forum about anything like this. However my iPad Air is now borderline unusable since ios9 update. So much lag, very unpleasant to use. I've tried all obivous remedies. My question is: Have Apple acknowledged this as being an issue and are there any indications that ios 9.2 will improve things? How can this be brought to Apple's attention if it hasn't already? I can't understand how performance can deteriorate so much when not much seems to have changed since ios 8? Any comments welcome!
I would bet the solution is get an air 2.
 

imagineadam

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Alright guys. I did it. I put 9.1 on my iPhone 6 forever leaving 8.4.1 in the dust. (Tear) I know. Why!?!? Well I wanted to try out a game that required iOS 9 (Afterpulse--not as cool as I thought it would be) and I really wanted low power mode and I knew eventually I would have to upgrade at some point so why not do it now.

In a very basic nutshell 9.1 is better at a few things but mostly super annoyingly worse at others compared to 8.4.1.

Safari is truly more stable and a little bit faster I noticed this pretty quickly. One annoyance is when you leave for awhile and come back if it needs to reload the page it now reloads the old page you had instead of refreshing it with the new data. So say I leave the macrumors forum open and come back and there are new posts I end up having to hit the reload button again even after it reloaded the page to see the new posts. 8.4.1 would just reload the new page with new data. Kind of annoying. But tabs stay backgrounder longer. And things just feel better and scrolling is smooth and fine.

Now to talk about general UI speed. This is where iOS 9 has truly taken a hit. It's like Apple put a governor in and decided to dial us all back a notch from 8.4.1. There is the touching to open an app lag we've all talked about (not quite as bad now) and the not being able to touch and app till the animation is 100% over to open it problem. I've learned to wait and live with this. It's really annoying but ok for now but I really think it's a weird behavior and they should put things back to how iOS 8 and below was. But here's the thing. Loading up all my apps does take a little bit longer than before on 8.4.1. I noticed this instantly. I don't see a reason for this. It's only like a second or two but it's there. Yes and my Touch ID takes a little longer too. Really annoying!

Ok here's a couple things I've liked in my day or two with the new iOS. Battery reporting seems to be more accurate. It no longer skips the percentages and it's more linear. At first you think "holly crap why is my battery draining so fast!?" When in reality they don't keep you hanging on 100% for and hour now and the percentage drop is more realistic of usage in my experience. I've only been on 9.1 for a couple of days so I don't really know how battery compares yet but so far it seems similar.

Auto brightness is more aggressive and dims faster than before when entering a dim place. Apple Music app is better. No lag after using it for a long time. Songs start faster. Takes longer to first start up though.

Why did they take the flipswitch for 120/240fps out of the camera app?? So I have to go into settings and change it now and take more time.. Annoying. Takes longer to open camera app too. I see some weird graphical glitches here and there too but not a big deal. And the settings bug where it opens up past airplane mode. So what. Kind of reminds me of the bug where the status bar was visible while zooming in a picture from the messages app. Took them till iOS 8.2 or 8.3 to take care of that one.

I can understand the frustration in this thread. Apple did say performance should be better than... iOS 8?? Right?!? It's not. Plain and simple on an iPhone 6 it's not. It's a clear step back.

Everything I used to do is a little bit slower and things that used to work fine sometimes don't!

I wonder if a 9.2 or 9.3 release will bring things back up to par with 8.4.1. I sure hope so. But probably not. I'll be upgrading to the 7 next year probably either way. Still disappointed in iOS 9. I remember putting iOS 7 on my 5 and really there wasn't much difference in performance from 6 but my battery took a hit. 7 to 8 on my 5 was pretty much the same performance as well. I don't get why my 1 year old iPhone 6 which screamed on 8 is being bogged down. Planned obsolescence seems to be obvious this time.

I'm really annoyed at the performance but the phone is still usable. It's just frustrating having to tap apps multiple times to get them to respond now when everything used to be so fluid. There's no going back now and I knew that. I can only hope Apple does something about ios9. The same is happening on the 6S so it's an iOS 9 issue. I've noticed my geekbench scores are all lower now too with the new iOS 9.1 firmware compared to 8.4. Clearly there is some governing going on. They aren't letting the A8 go full throttle anymore. Maybe this is on purpose for that extra hour of battery life that I'm still not getting yet? I don't know. I could go on. You guys get the gist.
 

Radon87000

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First time I've ever found myself needing to post on a forum about anything like this. However my iPad Air is now borderline unusable since ios9 update. So much lag, very unpleasant to use. I've tried all obivous remedies. My question is: Have Apple acknowledged this as being an issue and are there any indications that ios 9.2 will improve things? How can this be brought to Apple's attention if it hasn't already? I can't understand how performance can deteriorate so much when not much seems to have changed since ios 8? Any comments welcome!
iPad Air is done for I am afraid.Gotta get all those users to jump to the iPad Pro coz iPad sales are declining.Hell my Air 2 is laggy af
 
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scjr

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really?Open and close the app switcher with 3 or more apps open.Welcome to Lag City.Dont even get me started on the unlock lag where the icons stutter as they place themselves

Just a quick question. Is you entire iOS 9 experience based solely on lag?

The reason I ask is, my 8.4.1 experience with Safari was disastrous on my 6+. Crashes and reloads galore. On iOS 9, Safari runs stable and hasn't crashed on me once. That alone, minus the fluidity, is so worth iOS 9.

I guess if you're someone who bases everything on fluidity, then iOS 9 is a no go. iOS 9, to me, is so much better than iOS 8. It isn't perfect, but 8.4.1 wasn't either. Far from it.
 

Radon87000

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Just a quick question. Is you entire iOS 9 experience based solely on lag?

The reason I ask is, my 8.4.1 experience with Safari was disastrous on my 6+. Crashes and reloads galore. On iOS 9, Safari runs stable and hasn't crashed on me once. That alone, minus the fluidity, is so worth iOS 9.

I guess if you're someone who bases everything on fluidity, then iOS 9 is a no go. iOS 9, to me, is so much better than iOS 8. It isn't perfect, but 8.4.1 wasn't either. Far from it.
I don't use Safari.I used Chrome and it never used to crash on me on 8.4.1.Heck Chrome started faster on 8 than 9'for me..I will admit one thing though.My browsing experience improved on iOS 9 mainly because of Metal.Due to iOS restrictions ,Chrome used to use an older rendering engine than Safari which used to cause it to stutter on many websites where Safari was butter smooth.Now because of Metal Chrome seems just as smooth as Safari.My battery life has also improved on iOS 9 pretty good.The only problem is the horrendous stutters which drive me up the wall when I try to use my idevices.I am seriously contemplating making my Nexus 5 my daily driver for the time bein until Apple sorts this issue out
 

Rich_B

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So battery life and performance are in direct competition, it would seem. Battery has definitely improved but I never had too much of a problem with battery needing regular charges - price worth paying for device that ran smoothly and worked well. If they can offer a Low Power Mode, surely there should be high power / high performance / high battery drain mode for those that want their iPad etc to work properly?!
 

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Yeah,

the music app overall on iPad is a bag of hurt. It's much more stable on iPhone. The iPad app doesn't take on the color scheme when browsing albums. Stutters like crazy when browsing an artists page with lots of albums. Graphical glitches everywhere like misaligned text, album art not showing as a square on the right pane when in an album. Tapping the ... In now playing to go to an artist almost always results in the white unknown album screen. 5 months later and all these issues. What's sad is Apple Music has tons of potential. It's just riddled with that most ridiculous bugs and glitches on iPad that would typically NEVER make it out of the beta stage.

Misaligned text happens on 6+ infrequently now, but it still happens. And before people starting asking me to restore as new phone, the last time I saw this was in Messages on a new text message.

This type of bug has been happening for a year now. A freaking year.
 

Zaft

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Nonetheless I may get the 6S anyway, the size of the 6 Plus is starting to bother me. I only fear that battery life is worse compared to the 6 since the battery is smaller. 1715 vs 1810. How is the battery on the 6S?
 
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Just a quick question. Is you entire iOS 9 experience based solely on lag?

The reason I ask is, my 8.4.1 experience with Safari was disastrous on my 6+. Crashes and reloads galore. On iOS 9, Safari runs stable and hasn't crashed on me once. That alone, minus the fluidity, is so worth iOS 9.

I guess if you're someone who bases everything on fluidity, then iOS 9 is a no go. iOS 9, to me, is so much better than iOS 8. It isn't perfect, but 8.4.1 wasn't either. Far from it.

I had no major issues with 8.4.1. My safari never crashed, not many noticeable frame rate drops. For me the only thing that has changed is that I now have a more laggy ui. One other thing I've noticed with Safari (might have been fixed with 9.1) is that sometimes when I open a new page. That page will instantly crash and I'll be back to the previous one. It will keep on crashing when trying to open maybe three times until safari crashed completely and all tabs are gone. This never happened in 8.4.1. Haven't noticed it yet in 9.1 so I really hope it's fixed.
 

Radon87000

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Nonetheless I may get the 6S anyway, the size of the 6 Plus is starting to bother me. I only fear that battery life is worse compared to the 6 since the battery is smaller. 1715 vs 1810. How is the battery on the 6S?
As good as my iPhone 6 so significantly worse than the 6 plus you have.You can get by in a day without charge with moderate use
 

scjr

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I had no major issues with 8.4.1. My safari never crashed, not many noticeable frame rate drops. For me the only thing that has changed is that I now have a more laggy ui. One other thing I've noticed with Safari (might have been fixed with 9.1) is that sometimes when I open a new page. That page will instantly crash and I'll be back to the previous one. It will keep on crashing when trying to open maybe three times until safari crashed completely and all tabs are gone. This never happened in 8.4.1. Haven't noticed it yet in 9.1 so I really hope it's fixed.

I haven't had one Safari crash on my 6+, running iOS 9. I was seriosly considering getting rid of my 6+, when the S came out, because of the constant Safari crashes on iOS 8. iOS 9 ended that idea. No reason to get rid of something that's functioning perfectly fine.

Does it need tweaks to animations? Sure, but it's not crippled in the least. I guess it's crippled if your number one concern is is fluidity. To me, it's just a better OS than 8.
 

Zaft

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I haven't had one Safari crash on my 6+, running iOS 9. I was seriosly considering getting rid of my 6+, when the S came out, because of the constant Safari crashes on iOS 8. iOS 9 ended that idea. No reason to get rid of something that's functioning perfectly fine.

Does it need tweaks to animations? Sure, but it's not crippled in the least. I guess it's crippled if your number one concern is is fluidity. To me, it's just a better OS than 8.
I agree about safari, I used to always get the "this page had to reload" error. I dont recall getting that on IOS9 so far.
 
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