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So, what are you going to do now?
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The old disk utility was just fine. I don't want to do anything particularly advanced with it, copying disks, disk images and so on.
I use Linux all the time using CLI only on servers. Never really got on with Linux with a GUI/productivity apps.
I believe that merely uninstalls the current license from Windows but does not remove it from Microsoft's activation servers. IOW you can remove the license from Windows but you cannot use it to transfer the key to another system as Microsoft's activation servers have already tied the key to that specific installations hardware configuration profile.
The only thing really missing from the El Capitan version of Disk Utility is the ability to create software RAIDs and the the "repair permissions". Everything else can still be done with the El Capitan version of Disk Utility.
If you are comfortable with Linux CLI, all of it can be done in OS X's Terminal as well.
It just doesn't make much sense to me that someone would want to downgrade operating systems because they don't like the disk utility. How much time do you spend in disk utility each day? And if it truly were the most important app to you, Gparted is even more powerful.
If you are comfortable with Linux CLI, all of it can be done in OS X's Terminal as well.
It just doesn't make much sense to me that someone would want to downgrade operating systems because they don't like the disk utility. How much time do you spend in disk utility each day? And if it truly were the most important app to you, Gparted is even more powerful.
Continue to max out every spec on my nMP. Next up, the CPU. Already at 64gb ram, 12TB of raid arrays and D700s. Scared that 10 or 12 cores wont be faster than 6.
I have to say though – I spoke with Apple twice, both times with an Irish lady with very heavy accent and had to ask her to repeat pretty much everything, then she left me a voicemail I didn't understand, I sent an email and got a generic response back. So it's not like it's only Microsoft making your life difficult.
If the software you use cannot take advantage of the additional cores then the higher core count processors are likely to be slower than the 6 core. The 6 core processor has a base clock of 3.5GHz where as the 12 core processor has a base clock of 2.7GHz...a 23% decrease.
The dual socket nature of the cMP would permit the use of dual 6 core processors thus achieving a higher level of single and multi thread performance over a single 12 core processor.
Not the OP but In my case I'm not downgrading my OS. However I always wait a month or two before I jump to the next OS. Just so I can be sure I am aware of any glitches.
The bizarre gutting of disk utility kept me from jumping to El Capitan on my desktop.
(I am on El Capitan on my dekstop)
I eventually purchased a Thunderbay 4 from OWC, which ships with raid software.
So that is covered.
Next I have to go research repairing disk perms via BASH. Not something that has come up before, so even though I have BASH experience, that one never crossed my path.
It's doubly annoying because the first thing I always do after updating the OS i repair perms.
Apple always screw up the perms on something during an install.
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yes and?
Dont get all "Mac vs PC".
It's not like I'm going to dump my thunderbolt MP, and sell all my TB gear and go back to a cheese grater Mac for better single threaded performance.
According to Geekbench results you will loose a little speed when using single core apps but of course gain much more speed using multi-core apps. For single-core apps the 10-core upgrade will be a little faster but slower for muti-core app compared to the 12-core. If you work with a changing mix of single-core and multi-core apps then it's harder to assertain the exact benefits of a CPU upgrade. In this case the ten-core upgrade would seem to have the edge and it's significantly less money than the 12-core upgrade.
If you want, you can try the following, in Terminal... and wait.
To verify - repair permissions:
sudo /usr/libexec/repair_packages --verify --standard-pkgs /
sudo /usr/libexec/repair_packages --repair --standard-pkgs --volume /
I just ordered everything to build my Windows 10 PC next week
I'm 33 years old and have only owned Macs for my entire life. I have a bachelor's degree in both Comp Sci (currently a web dev) and Media Arts (I was a FCP Video Editor), so that gives you an idea of how attached to the hip I was with my Macs. I went to war with PC users since I was old enough to use the internet. There are lots of emotions: sad that is has come to this, angry at Apple for blatantly ignoring its pro users, happy to be moving on.
The PC I'm building costs $2100 (including monitor), the closest equivalent iMac is $3700. I say "closest equivalent" because even at that price my PC's graphics card will be 2x as powerful as the top iMac's, the RAM will be twice the speed in mhz, the keyboard and mouse won't suck, the ventilation will be 50x better and 4x more quiet. To be fair, iMacs do come with a 5k monitor, but I don't want one. Normally, I would use the Mac Pro as a comparison, but it hasn't been refreshed in THREE YEARS. If you are curious, here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TcHykT
I hope more people switch over. Apple screwed us, big time. I want them to suffer. If they want to apologize and make it up to the loyal fans, they should redesign OS X to run on any PC hardware. However, I don't think that is likely, until they hit rock bottom.
We have spent so much money buying their outdated, overpriced products over the years, dealing with things like the destruction of FCP, wasting hours of time finding solutions to problems in OS X (like using a proxy) which can be solved with one download on Windows, and most of us stayed loyal. The long refreshes and recent WWDC really broke the camel's back.
I'm 33 years old and have only owned Macs for my entire life. I have a bachelor's degree in both Comp Sci (currently a web dev) and Media Arts (I was a FCP Video Editor), so that gives you an idea of how attached to the hip I was with my Macs. I went to war with PC users since I was old enough to use the internet. There are lots of emotions: sad that is has come to this, angry at Apple for blatantly ignoring its pro users, happy to be moving on.
The PC I'm building costs $2100 (including monitor), the closest equivalent iMac is $3700. I say "closest equivalent" because even at that price my PC's graphics card will be 2x as powerful as the top iMac's, the RAM will be twice the speed in mhz, the keyboard and mouse won't suck, the ventilation will be 50x better and 4x more quiet. To be fair, iMacs do come with a 5k monitor, but I don't want one. Normally, I would use the Mac Pro as a comparison, but it hasn't been refreshed in THREE YEARS. If you are curious, here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TcHykT
I hope more people switch over. Apple screwed us, big time. I want them to suffer. If they want to apologize and make it up to the loyal fans, they should redesign OS X to run on any PC hardware. However, I don't think that is likely, until they hit rock bottom.
We have spent so much money buying their outdated, overpriced products over the years, dealing with things like the destruction of FCP, wasting hours of time finding solutions to problems in OS X (like using a proxy) which can be solved with one download on Windows, and most of us stayed loyal. The long refreshes and recent WWDC really broke the camel's back.
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At my last two IT jobs we used disk utility and target disk mode to make images of department machines and dupe those images over the normal shipping image.
There are of course more enterprise oriented applications for this, but using Disk Utility was free, simple and relatively painless.
The neutering of Disk Utility is not a huge deal. But it is indicative of a certain randomness that has taken hold at Apple.
We used to wonder what amazing thing they would come up with next.
Now we wonder what they are going to arbitrarily take away.
So far, FCP, Disk Utility, quad core Mini, dual CPU Mac Pro.
Soon we will lose headphone jacks on iphones, and it's always a guessing game where they have moved Network Utility to!
On the plus side, I always like to learn more bash commands.
Well unlike most I have just returned to the nMP from a cMP
I got a nMP when it first came out but felt I needed more of the cMP features
(And I felt at the time the nMP was overpriced for what it is)
Anyway I came across a nice cheap nMP this weekend
6Core D500s 16Gb 256SSD with 2 years applecare on it for £1000 figured I would give it a go again..
So now back setting up the nMP again., will see how long I least with this one!
I got a nMP when it first came out but felt I needed more of the cMP features
(And I felt at the time the nMP was overpriced for what it is)
Anyway I came across a nice cheap nMP this weekend
6Core D500s 16Gb 256SSD with 2 years applecare on it for £1000 figured I would give it a go again..
So now back setting up the nMP again., will see how long I least with this one!
If you keep that much anger inside you're not going to live to see 43
Given it hasn't been upgraded or the price reduced, today it's even more overpriced for what it is.
Yes but I paid £3500 for the first one from apple... At £1000 I think its very well priced.. Seem to be some good priced second hand and refurbs coming on the market now.
I'm aware you paid less because you bought it used. I was referring to new pricing. You can't compare the two.
No I totally agree with you the new pricing is now even more of a joke than the launch pricing.
I just feel now there are more affordable used systems out there its easier to justify moving back to it.
Seems pretty obvious to me that Apple is waiting for some derivative GPU parts from the latest (FINALLY!) node shrink. Shouldn't be too much longer.
