I've owned an iPhone for seven years now, and I've been the de facto iOS tech support person for several friends and family members for almost as long. I've heard plenty of complaints and wishes about iOS over the years, and not a single one of them has anything to do with app organization. Any time I've heard people comment on the number of apps they have, it's because they realize they have a ton of apps they don't use anymore. They delete the unwanted apps and move on with their life. Folders are a good solution for the vast majority of people, and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that a sizable portion of iOS users don't even mess with folders to begin with.
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So where's this brand new fresh UI and all new iOS 11 ?
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My wife is a technophobe and is not a power user. Certainly part of the 90% and very representative. Like my mother too. And yet both of them certainly could benefit from a different methodology to the UI. I see their frustration in using the home screen even with their somewhat limited app library.
Don't get me wrong. I had no illusions such a major revision was coming. I would have been absolutely shocked. I can say however that 11 is severely lacking in user features and not only was that quite evident in the keynote, but several reviews have already commented on it.
As has been mentioned before, iOS 9 was similar in a sense when compared to iOS 8, and some other prior iOS versions were "lighter" compared to their previous ones. None of them were some sort of failures that got in the way of anything--people still upgraded and got plenty of new devices with those versions and things moved along as they did before. Even iOS 10 was complained about after WWDC because the focus was mostly on Messenger and "unless" things like emojis and stickers and all that. By comparison, there's more to what was presented about iOS 11.
Speak for yourself, iOS 10 has so many bubble gum design things that could easily be addressed. iOS 11 was a way to show they can take it to the next level, make it modern and use the ten year anniversary as a great excuse to set the tone for the next ten years. But nah, 3 changes, 3 features, 3 optiona, and sell !
Wishful thinking and hopes on personal/anecdotal level, even if by quite a few people, are not the same thing as expectations, especially on a widespread and prominent level.
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I guess it all boils down to "Different strokes, for different folks".
I never thought that ten years in, Apple would still keep the overall style and theme of iOS the same since the original iPhone. I thought a few years ago they'd finally revise the UI and freshen it up. But now I'm thinking that may never happen, and the icons from 2013 and overall "App drawer left open look for the home screen" is here to stay for good.
And the top ten Jailbreak tweaks I'd like to see baked into stock stable iOS is just never gonna happen, or maybe over the next ten years.
Just seems Apple moves at a snails pace.
But who am I to say anything critical, obviously Apple is doing something right, selling these phones by the tens of millions at launch. It's no different than the Honda Civic of cars, or the Big Mac hamburger for fast food. The iPhone is for the general public, it's the easy phone to use for grandparents, and trendy phone for the teenagers, it's just a mass produced gadget for the masses, no different than an economy car, or fast food burger.
Apple makes the phone their way, and you cannot have chose to change or tweak to your liking, it's their way or the highway. And that's good for the 95% of the average buying public.
I never thought that ten years in, Apple would still keep the overall style and theme of iOS the same since the original iPhone. I thought a few years ago they'd finally revise the UI and freshen it up. But now I'm thinking that may never happen, and the icons from 2013 and overall "App drawer left open look for the home screen" is here to stay for good.
And the top ten Jailbreak tweaks I'd like to see baked into stock stable iOS is just never gonna happen, or maybe over the next ten years.
Just seems Apple moves at a snails pace.
But who am I to say anything critical, obviously Apple is doing something right, selling these phones by the tens of millions at launch. It's no different than the Honda Civic of cars, or the Big Mac hamburger for fast food. The iPhone is for the general public, it's the easy phone to use for grandparents, and trendy phone for the teenagers, it's just a mass produced gadget for the masses, no different than an economy car, or fast food burger.
Apple makes the phone their way, and you cannot have chose to change or tweak to your liking, it's their way or the highway. And that's good for the 95% of the average buying public.
Fam, you went 6 full iOS versions without a system-wide redesign before iOS 7. I think you can do the same again here.
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Actually it's not a joke. It's actually a really fair price point. You can get a speaker that does none of what HomePod does for thousands of dollars more.
Redesigns in threes, iOS 4 (minor), 7 (major), 10 (minor), 13 (2019)?
Thats funny, two days ago you told me there is no way they are going to wait till iOS 13 for a full overhaul and I was going to essentially eat my words yesterday. Maybe my prediction isn't too far off based, now is it?
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Yep. Exactly what I have been saying. There are minor redesigns every 3 years and major every 7th. This trend has now stayed pretty consistent.
Letˋs be real here: When the next version of iOS arrives, many of you will complain about how **** it is compared to iOS 11, the same way iOS 11 is **** to iOS 10, iOS 10 was **** compared to iOS 9, and so on.
And when there is a new redesign, you will complain how it was way better before, the same as it was with iOS 7 compared to iOS 6.
And you know I am right!
And when there is a new redesign, you will complain how it was way better before, the same as it was with iOS 7 compared to iOS 6.
And you know I am right!
Rinse and repeat (and repeat and repeat).Letˋs be real here: When the next version of iOS arrives, many of you will complain about how **** it is compared to iOS 11, the same way iOS 11 is **** to iOS 10, iOS 10 was **** compared to iOS 9, and so on.
And when there is a new redesign, you will complain how it was way better before, the same as it was with iOS 7 compared to iOS 6.
And you know I am right!
person to person ApplePay, one-handed keyboard option. Users will now be able to set up a new phone very easily, if they already have another iOS device. Turn on both devices and the new phone will automatically be updated with the settings and passwords etc.
There are a lot of new features in iOS 11. A lot of them Tim didn't even mention.
Instead of complaining, do some research to uncover all the new features and refinements.
There are a lot of new features in iOS 11. A lot of them Tim didn't even mention.
Instead of complaining, do some research to uncover all the new features and refinements.
The current iOS design works well, and has a high customer satisfaction rate. Why change something that works well. The fundamentals of the UI have never really changed that much because it all works. Yes they tweak the design, but I don't think you'll ever see a completely different UI for iOS (not anytime soon at least).
The whole 'themes' debate has been had. iOS does not offer it. Apple does not want to offer it.
I agree 110% with this article, on what we'd like to see in iOS 11;
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/25/macrumors-forums-ios-11-wishlist/
None of that ended up being a reality
And still no basic theme engine, like Samsung does, people like to have different options to make their phone more unique to their style, let me change the color of the back ground or the icons. I'm not wanting Apple to copy Android, but who wouldn't want the option of some basic themes ? If you don't want to use them, that's cool, then don't, but I bet a few people would like that option.
What about Dark mode ?
Wow WTF Apple ?
Whatever chode coined the phrase “dark mode” should be taken out back and shot.
Of all the complaints I see, this is the most important to a lot of people? Seriously? Dark ****ing mode???
Anyone that complains about this and tris to make this a “point”, looses all respect in my eyes. This is some millennial ****.
https://developer.apple.com/ios/
There is a ton of stuff they added to IOS 11, a lot of it under the covers. I installed ios 11 on my 5s and it works quite well. CC can be customized with a number of additional buttons.
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A company that believes it has already perfected the interface will never release more than incremental adjustments.
The moral of this story is ‘don’t believe everything you read on the internet’
