Hmm but not everybody patents.
Apple isn't suing over "copying". They sue over patent infringement. There IS a legal difference.
Fix the damn system!
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Hmm but not everybody patents.
Apple isn't suing over "copying". They sue over patent infringement. There IS a legal difference.
Fix the damn system!
Okay, say you get two notifications for SMS.
First one arrives. Pulling down the drawer, you see this:
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| App | Sender Timestamp |
| Icon | Message text |
Which is also fully actionable by the way. Suppose it is a message that i don't care to deal with now, but important enough that i want to return to later. Let's leave it for now
Second one arrives. Pulling down the drawer you see this:
____________________________
| App | 2 new messages Timestamp |
| Icon | Last sender Last msg text |
Which can be expanded to read, but no longer separate. They are bunched. Now let's say the second one is from my service provider (they love to spam me despite me telling them to not do it, and we have no other choice for a provider). I cannot delete it safely while leaving the previous one intact, instead now i end up opening the app and removing the original from the notification tray as well.
What i want is this:
_____________________________
| App | 2nd Sender Timestamp |
| Icon | Message text |
| App | 1st Sender Timestamp |
| Icon | Message text |
Both separate, actionable, and preferred.
Before we say how this is just one scenario, this happens a lot in emails, IMs, VOIP apps, etc etc etc....which annoys me a lot.
An example of an app that does not conform to this is pushbullet. You may try it yourself. Install pushbullet, and its extension in chrome, push a couple of stuff, and see that both notifications are separate. Much better.
Now try the same with gmail.
Hope that helped.
I know i can use notificationlistener to listen to all notifications, and even remove them as they come while storing them in my own container. What i don't know is how the heck am I going to re-display it all how i want if that area is off-limits.
Fingers crossed.
iOS has Google Now, it has a lot of the same functionality as the Android version but just isn't baked into the launcher, you have to launch the app. It works quite nicely, but I haven't used it in a while since I sold my 5S.
NILs is just a widget, not a complete lockscreen overhaul. Similarly, their floating panel cannot push around screen elements such as the location of the unlock ring, which ends up being a less than stellar solution.
I really suggest that you go and see the slidelock screenshots in google play page here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slidelock
Exactly.
Jrswizzle -- you keep talking about patents and infringements. The people here (at least most of them earlier on in this thread) were simply pointing out that Apple is announcing new features that are already on Android. Thus terms like "catching up" or "playing catch up" or even "copying" (which can mean it doesn't have to be from the originator). You're trying to switch the conversation to patents and infringements (which I don't think many here actually care about) because there's just no way to get around the fact that Apple is copying just as others have copied them, regardless of who the originator was/is.
Yup, use it as well, works in much the same fashion as on Android, though I seem to get fewer notifications vs. Android even with identical settings.
What I was trying to do was move the conversation away from the whole "copying" thing to a discussion about implementation of said features. That's all.
I got side tracked as many of us did. Apologies. All I wanted was to make the distinction between feature and implementation - and then discuss differences in implementations of Apple and Google/others.
I think if you ignore me, you should likely refrain from commenting on posts that pertain or are directed toward me....
General statement as jamezr obviously can't read this.
My only gripe with lockscreen replacements are that the animations can have stutters and at times don't launch smoothly when waking the device. You'll end up with a flicker exposing the original lockscreen and then the replacement.
After reading the reviews, it appears this is the case with this one as well.
Interesting, however I haven't noticed any flickering. May be part of the reason is I am on the beta program or may be because I am using the unskinned version of android. Skins do break a lot of stuff.
Not a bad point actually.
I've worked around this by using the unread number notification extension on Nova Launcher. So even if I swipe the notification away, if the message is still unread in the Messaging app, the Messaging icon on my home screen will have a little bubble next to it telling me how many unread messages I have, like what you get in iOS.
Here's what it looks like:
And that's showing up on my phone right now despite having no SMS notifications in my notification bar. It also works with Gmail and a few third party apps like Facebook Messenger.
Okay, so Apple copied some features that existed on Android, and are in some cases implementing them differently. So what? Of course they have to implement them different by the nature of the different OS-es. Inevitably their "implementation" is different. For example, to implement the always listening SIRI feature, it of course has to be different. You couldn't say "Ok Google Now" to your SIRI, but the feature itself is a direct copy of Android's always listening "OK Google Now". Or Widgets existing only in the pull down menu (iOS doesn't have home screens).
These are features copied from Android. You're only pointing out the obvious that they'll be implemented differently. Thanks, I guess?
Is that teslaunread? I am intrigued as to how it can retain the badge after opening the app. Hmm.
*sigh*.....
Please just stop. I'm not arguing with you anymore.
I want to talk about the implementations specifically not simply that they are different (which some people DON'T see - however obvious it is to you and me).
For example - widgets. Techanarchy has stated in another thread he's not too thrilled with how iOS implemented widgets. Instead of going with an Android-like implementation with sizeable widgets and the ability to place them throughout the home screens (which Apple DOES have....what you would likely consider an app drawer), Apple decided to incorporate them into the notification center.
Pros, cons. Is it enough for someone to switch? Not enough? Why or why not?
See - this is a real discussion. Please don't argue back about the lawsuits or copying or anything else....I'm tired of reading the same things over and over again when I stopped arguing/caring quite a few posts ago.
+1 for that. I'm using a Nexus 5 at the moment, had a Windows Phone before, but an iPad and MacBook. Android, is for me, not as 'nice' as WP8 or iOS. They feel more polished, more consistent, more stable. I have rooted my phone, which is the main reason why my phone isn't as stable as it could be, but I rooted it to install CyanogenMod and other root only apps.
Whilst I actually enjoy WP8, it was just too unfinished to use(bit of a contradiction) , and now, when every other family member and friend has an iPhone, it is just easier to use an iPhone myself. I don't really want to have to install icon packs, themes, launchers, ROMs or apps to get my phone to how I want it to look.
That being said, 4 inches is too small for me, so I do hope a 4.7 inch iPhone is announced.
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I've experienced flickering as well. In the end I installed DashClock, but it isn't as nice as something being implemented natively, in the OS.
Ya - I'm looking forward to the larger display too. Really liked the 4.7"ish range of the Android handsets I've used.
Well i guess one would have to try them to make a decision it if is enough to switch. The new iPhones wont be out for a while and i dont have a current iPhone to try iOS 8.
For me, what iOS added with iOS 8 is cool, its a step in the right direction and the phone will be bigger( 4.7" is nice, 5.5", too big) so im intriqued but it still has a ways to go. Had they added a back button would of been big as well. Ill check one out but really it would have to blow my doors off to make me switch from Android and i doubt it will do that.
I'd rather them expand the swipe back gesture like in Safari.....would be nice if you could just swipe to the right to go back at any time.
I think to a certain degree, that's true. Doesn't mean we can't talk about whether or not we THINK its intriguing enough. I thought that's what this thread was about.....at least it was before it got derailed. I'm attempting to bring it back.
What would blow your doors off? More Android-like or something completely new and original?
It is yes. It keeps the badge after opening the app just as long as you don't open the messaging thread you want to check later. So if you have two texts from two different people, you can open one thread and delete or reply, but leave the other unread and the badge will remain.
I actually do it a little differently instead of using the sprint and gvoice integration. I have the stand alone hangout program on my pc and I ported my old number over my google number. Now when my PC is on it rings my pc as well as my handset when I get a call. So since hangout's inception I have been making and answering phone calls through my hang out app on my desktop.
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Sorry for the long quote, but I want this too. Actionable notifications when there ate multiple from the same app queued up.
As far as lock screen goes. I've given up trying to find an iosque style one. I disabled lock screen security so I can access the notification shade from the lock screen. My exchange account is locked down in the nine app, so I'll take my chances with no lock screen security for now.
Let us know if you figure it out. I am rooted but not currently xposed because I feel like ART is a bigger deal for me.
And there is the one nemesis i dont care for.................iTunes! Hated having to do everything thru iTunes. Im sure there have been improvements since ive had an iPhone but iTunes was a BIG negative for me.
Ahh - ya its really not a big deal at this point. You don't have to plug in or anything of that nature.
Though I will say - iTunes on a Mac is FAR AND AWAY better than iTunes on a PC. If I had a PC only and had to use iTunes regularly, I wouldn't like it either.
Luckily, you don't have to. I use iTunes at home as my default media player to stream things from my iMac (which acts as my central media hub) to my AppleTVs. iTunes works really well in my opinion.