True. That's a great deal. If the M2 iPP hadn't been released though, we probably wouldn't have seen deals like those (at least not brand new).
If the M1 iPP was still $1699-1799, would you want it over a $1799 M2?
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iPad Pro Sshhh....I'm happy with my M2 11 inch iPad Pro
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True. That's a great deal. If the M2 iPP hadn't been released though, we probably wouldn't have seen deals like those (at least not brand new).
If the M1 iPP was still $1699-1799, would you want it over a $1799 M2?
No, I would go for the newest tech, for sure - if the price was still that high.
Coming from an 11” 2018 iPP, I really wanted the mini-LED/XDR screen to come to the M2 11”…but when it didn’t, and there was such a deep discount - i grabbed the M1.
Those numbers don't translate into real world differences. When doing heavy tasks on either device they are going to perform nearly identically. I'm not saying its a bad device, but throwing out those percentage numbers are for the most part meaningless.
No one has said the M2 iPad Pro is a bad product. With your statements above you are making it sound like a useless upgrade by simply stating that you purchased it because you got a "sizable discount." That somewhat negates you buying it because you felt it was a worthy upgrade over your 2018 model. But again, no one is saying the M2 is a bad product, it isn't. Apple just needs to do more here and stop pushing the same design on what will now be 5 years and improve more than just the guts of the iPad, which was already extremely capable.
If you are coming to it from (basically) any other iPad before the M1 then it is a fantastic upgrade. The whinging seems to come from those who have the M1 model but who have a desperate need to blow a ton of cash on something new for the sake of it.
I can never understand why anyone upgrades from the immediately preceding model and then complains about the new model. What did they expect? This covers iPads, MacBooks, Watches and iPhones. Incremental improvement is the name of the game, but for the vast majority of people who do not upgrade every year there should always be an improvement sufficient to make you enjoy your purchase - especially if you wait 3 or 4 years.
I can never understand why anyone upgrades from the immediately preceding model and then complains about the new model. What did they expect? This covers iPads, MacBooks, Watches and iPhones. Incremental improvement is the name of the game, but for the vast majority of people who do not upgrade every year there should always be an improvement sufficient to make you enjoy your purchase - especially if you wait 3 or 4 years.
Thats great, the M2 iPads are very nice. Don't let anyone else rain on your parade just because they are jaded cynics.
I tried it in store and ordered one to replace my 2020 IPP. Looking forward to the RAM bump from 6-8GB and memory bandwidth increase.
iPad Pro seems to be on an approximately 18-24 month refresh cycle, and though I would have liked to have seen OLED make its way to the iPad lineup sooner I am going to play it safe and hold off until rev.B or 2 before I jump. At that point I expect an OLED iPad Pro to be introduced at the earliest March 2024 or late 2024 and rev B around late 2025 or early 2026.
M2 iPad Pro for me should last me 4 years before I upgrade.
I suspect some of those cynics as others have mentioned are from M1 iPad Pro customers. Apple is not expecting those customers to upgrade maybe the 2018-2020 iPad Pro customers but I believe some 2018 iPad Pro users jumped on the M1 iPad Pro train in 2021.
M2 Pro/Max/Ultra/Extreme are expected in 2023 and M3 in 2024.
Yep. M1 owners don't need to upgrade to the M2 iPad in the same way that A12X owners didn't need to upgrade to the A12Z iPad.
The M3 upgrade is what M1 and A12 iPad owners should be looking forward to. It will have a landscape camera and new design Pencil-3; maybe even a version of the MKF which works with the back Smart Connector.
They have the M2 already for other devices, so why wouldn’t they put it in the iPad Pro?
Nobody likes paying full MSRP for consumer electronic devices that are over 12 months old. Does this mindset probably need to change soon? Sure. But I don’t think we’re quite there yet.
So even though this was a minor update, it at least gives potential buyers the peace of mind that the iPad Pro isn’t on the cusp of an update.
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Especially since the M1 is in the 2021 iPad Air.
I also bought one and it’s such a great device! Sure, it’s expensive, but in my opinion worth every euro I paid.
I have an 5 year old 10.5" iPad Pro which is getting slow & battery hemming and hawing a bit, so I'd planned to upgrade to 11" M2. But when I went to Apple Store & compared its display with the mini-LED on the larger model, I was surprised how inferior photos looked. Showing photos to friends is one of my big uses, so I considered shelling out the $ for the 12.9" (photos look great on it) - but it's just too big, heavy and unwieldy for my casual use. (mostly reading, web surfing - my main photo work is on a 32 GB MBP M1 Max with Studio Display).
So I'm frustrated, but will wait for an 11" mini-LED - hope one comes out in spring and that my old iPad lasts.
So I'm frustrated, but will wait for an 11" mini-LED - hope one comes out in spring and that my old iPad lasts.
Here’s to another happy M2 11“ Pro owner. I’ve gone from the 12.9 to the Mini 6, and now the 11” is the happy medium for me. Like you, I expect to have this iPad for many years. Enjoy!
As much as everyone wants every update to be a revolution, there's only so much that can be done with tablets that are already overpowered as it is. As others have said, if you got something pre M1 series, it's an awesome upgrade and will last you for years.
Enjoy it, loving my 11" M1 Pro still, even though mostly a multi media device for me, the quad speakers are great lol
Enjoy it, loving my 11" M1 Pro still, even though mostly a multi media device for me, the quad speakers are great lol
I personally don’t think you have much of a leg to stand on with that opinion. But OK, you’re allowed to think whatever you want.
On the Mac side, many people pay an extra 200 bucks or so just to get a 10-15% increase in CPU, so that’s a strong signal that what you blow off as “unnoticeable” is, in fact, noticeable or at least worth something to many people.
Well its a little different on the Mac Side because of the OS. The iPad software is heavily gimped so those numbers don't really translate to real world differences. We are literally talking about 1 or 2 seconds.
I don't think the argument "It's not meant for M1 owners." misses the point at all. It's like when Ford puts a new engine with better tech in one of its models for the new model year. They don't expect everyone with last years car to rush out and get the new one. They are just putting the latest tech in the new model.
I got the M2, 12.9” maxed out. Upgraded from a 2018. I think the thing I’ve come to terms with is that this isn’t a professional device for my purposes. It just cant run or do the things that my field requires. However, thats not a bad thing. It just makes it a very very privileged personal device. That i do enjoy. Having a big SSD helps on planes and abroad. Having cellular saves so much annoyance in hotels and airports. it’s vastly overpowered for what i use it for. But the SSD size is only available in the pro line (Same with the screen), so here we are.
Received my M2 iPad Pro 11” base model today; upgraded from a 2020 iPad Pro 11” base model, this thing flys like a rocket. Use it more than my M1 MBA, when iPadOS gets capable the Mac might finally retire in storage.
It’s not bad product (at all), only bad update (especially for iPP M1 owners).
Is it meant for M1 iPad Pro customers though considering the minor spec bump. This is similar from the 2018 to 2020 update. If you were a 2018 or earlier upgraded to M1 then great, if you waited for the M2 also great. If you are waiting on something major like OLED or even minor like landscape FaceTime camera orientation then your opportunity to upgrade to a M3 iPad Pro in 2024 is in your cards.
People often use the car analogy which makes absolutely no sense. You might as well compare buying an iPad to buying a house then. Its not a comparison that makes any sense. Apple absolutely wants people to upgrade year over year, its easy money for them. They especially want people to use their trade in program as they will turn around and sell your old device for double what they gave you for the trade in.
The M2 isn't that big of an upgrade over the 2018, 2020, or 2021 model. They all use Apple's silicone chips and all are going to have very similar results in real world usage. Yeah the 2022 is going to beat the 2021 and previous models, but its not going to be dramatic like it is comparing intel to silicone in MacBooks simply because Apple was already using silicone in their iPads.
This will be 5 yers now of the same design for the iPad Pro, with no enhancements to the battery, no enhancements to the facetime camera, no enhancements to the speakers, same camera position in portrait. Apple is simply taking the cheap way out here and putting in a new chip into the exact same device as years prior. At least they updated the screen in 2021, but even that was the only meaningful change from 2020 and 2018.