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Standby mode turns off after a minute or so

caesarp said:
Unfortunately, no. Did not work last night. Screen went dark after a little while last night. So the software is inconsistent. Something is wrong.
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Yeah, I think there is a bad bug. Sometimes mine stays on all night and like last night, not at all. Same settings. Go Figure!
 
wags1 said:
Unfortunately I have tested every permutation and combination of settings and eventually during the night the “AoD” eventually always turns off. The AoD turns off under certain circumstances and behaves exactly as Apple Support describes it:

”The display automatically turns off when iPhone is face down or obstructed from view, not near a paired Apple Watch, when a CarPlay session begins, while Continuity Camera is in use, while Low Power Mode is on, while Sleep Focus is on, or at your usual bedtime.”

Seems to me it is not a “bug” but WAD. As I have said several times now, it would be easy for Apple to fix with the appropriate setting that would actually force it to stay on.
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Aren't you mixing up "always on display" with "StandBy"? As I understand it, they are intended to be 2 different things.

What you quote is in the "always on display" Apple User Guide, here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph7117338a8/17.0/ios/17.0#iph0882c9990.

StandBy is a separate section of the User Guide, found here:

Use StandBy to view information at a distance while iPhone is charging

Display your favorite photos, clock, Live Activities, and more while your iPhone is charging.
support.apple.com

Also, it says this under StandBy:

"When Night Mode is on for StandBy, the screen adapts to low ambient light at night and displays in a red tint so that it’s not intrusive while you’re sleeping."

And also this: With the Always On display (on iPhone 14 Pro, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 15 Pro, and iPhone 15 Pro Max), StandBy stays on to show useful information.

Both of those statements imply that the screen will stay on, particularly in night mode, even when sleeping.

Also, as I pointed out, "Stand by" has its own toggle for "always on" -- which is NOT "always on display", which is named differently and located in a different settings section.

So what I think happened here is, there are unanticipated software conflicts going on between "Always On" under StandBy vs. "Always on Display", where the latter setting is located under Display & Brightness.

And how "night mode" interacts may be a separate conflict.

This would explain the inconsistent behavior.
 
wags1 said:
On top of that - on your iPhone go into Settings, StandBy and read the description of the Always On toggle:

“When Always On is enabled, the display will intelligently turn off when not in use.”

…so by their own definition if you turn on the “Always On” setting the “always on display” is designed to not always stay on. The cognitive dissonance hurts my head…🤣
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The Apple design teams for StandBy and "Always On" had to be 2 different teams. It's nuts. Why have night mode then? Intelligently it would NEVER turn off if night mode is engaged.
 
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caesarp said:
The Apple design teams for StandBy and "Always On" had to be 2 different teams. It's nuts. Why have night mode then? Intelligently it would NEVER turn off if night mode is engaged.
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I agree that it is nuts and makes no sense. But I also think that it is actually working as it is described in the settings and by Apple support. The question is did they really intend it to work as it is being described or was it meant to work like an actual nightstand clock and stay on all night….or did the design team really not understand how the typical user would expect a nightstand clock to work? Your guess is as good as mine.
 
caesarp said:
The Apple design teams for StandBy and "Always On" had to be 2 different teams. It's nuts. Why have night mode then? Intelligently it would NEVER turn off if night mode is engaged.
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BTW, the setting description I quoted is from the Standby settings screen not the Display settings screens. So even if they are 2 different design teams that would not explain why the Standby design team would create a toggle called “Always On” whose function they specifically describe as:

”When Always On is enabled, the display will intelligently turn off when not in use”
 
ibehardnock2001 said:
Guys. For those with AOD, you have to go to your "Stand By" under settings. There is a separate toggle switch called "Always On" which is described as 'when enabled, the display will intelligently turn off when not in use' you have to switch this off. The standby mode screen will now remain on the entire time.

Under night mode, if you like the red tint (like the classic night stand clocks) then enable "night mode"

The default setting is having the Always on toggle switch on under Standby so all other iphones WITHOUT the Always on Display can enjoy the Standby without having their screens burn in.

Hope this helps.
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It doesn’t work as you described.

iPhone 15 pro max.

Setting on and the display turns off at some stage during the night. Apple call this intelligent.

Setting off and the display turns off after about 30 seconds.

There seems no way to keep the display on.
 
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Pagemakers said:
3 options now.

Automatic
Off
Always On (new).
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I'll be interested to test it once it is officially released (not beta). Is that setting in Standby or Display & Brightness/Always on Display?
NM, checked the 17.1 beta 2 thread...it's in Standby, nice. Hopefully it will be released soon.
 
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wags1 said:
I'll be interested to test it once it is officially released (not beta). Is that setting in Standby or Display & Brightness/Always on Display?
NM, checked the 17.1 beta 2 thread...it's in Standby, nice. Hopefully it will be released soon.
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Wow, did you expect Apple to be on this issue so soon?
I took the plunge with 17.1 and last night standby worked fine.
Now hoping the beta don't suck in other places o_O
 
Standby in 17.1 looks good.
Only "son et lumière" while reloading on a Belkin to 80%.
No focus used.
 
It would be interesting to know whether this also applies to always on display: because my AOD (iphone 14 pro) always goes dark in the evening when I watch TV. I believe Apple calls this "smart".
 
Also curious to see if 17.1 overrides sleep focus. Kind of defeats the purpose for those who want to use it as a night clock (and for those of us who wake up multiple times per night and want to glance at their clock).
 
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matrix07 said:
Do you use it with Sleep Focus?
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Tried it last night.
At first it seemed to work fine. But one time it went to the Lockscreen and once the screen was switched off completely, unable to get it back on by waving at it.
After switching Sleep Focus to Off Standby worked like advertised in 17.1
 
Great, and now just noticed Stand By won’t turned on (no matter how I try). 😓

How does simple function like this fail to turn on? I have never rotated a phone and video fail to go landscape. How? HOW?

Edit: after I complained. It now works. 🫤
 
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matrix07 said:
Great, and now just noticed Stand By won’t turned on (no matter how I try). 😓

How does simple function like this fail to turn on? I have never rotated a phone and video fail to go landscape. How? HOW?

Edit: after I complained. It now works. 🫤
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Side button seems to help sometimes
 
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