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Anyone here planning to be at the upcoming Vegas convention (Aug 1st thru 5th)? https://www.creationent.com/cal/st_lasvegas_guests.html

I went in 2011 and it was Nimoy's final year of conventions. IIRC, he went to only one more and that was it. Was AMAZING given how many actors were there: https://web.archive.org/web/20110808134635/http://www.creationent.com/cal/stlv.htm. No other Trek convention I'd been before came even close.

LONG ago, the Pasadena convention was a/the big one but still not as big. The year I went to that, I recall they had all the Voyager cast except Janeway (Kes was still on the show) + Brent Spiner + Jeff Goldblum (to promote Independence Day) + Majel Barrett. IIRC, Star Trek First Contact hadn't come out yet and a guy came up to a bunch of us in an autograph line w/the supposedly the script to First Contact. My memory's foggy as to whether I skimmed any of it and whether it turned out to be authentic.

I'm contemplating going but the issue is that it's such a long drive for me (over 500 miles each way). Plane tickets became more $ than I wanted to pay awhile ago. :( Then add in the price of the hotel rooms + the mandatory "resort fees" many of them charge. Unfortunately, due to the spacing and scheduling of the guests I wish to see, I'd need to attend Thursday thru Sunday.
 
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Excellent set of episodes. I just watched the two part episodes of Redemption part 1 & 2 of STNG yesterday.

Clever, well-acted, superbly scripted, intelligent politics and some hilarious scenes (the Klingon opera scene, the jazz scene, the space junk yard among others) and yet very moving and powerful in parts.
 
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Data (altered to look like a Romulan, standing with Picard, similarly altered in a small café) earnestly explaining to a suspicious and patently disbelieving waitress that there were 27 different sub-dialects of the region that he claimed to have come from in Romulus which was why he didn't speak in the dominant accent of the region - silenced by an interruption from Picard - was also very funny.

And Mark Lenard - as always - was excellent as Sarek - a Sarek in the distressing grip of Vulcan dementia, expressing itself both in severe lapses of memory and outbreaks of uncontrollable emotion - was very powerful.

But the scenes in the space bar, Riker playing jazz and with - and seeking information from - the piano-player who was a less than grief-stricken widow of the captain of the ship that had been destroyed in the junkyard, and Worf - asking for Klingon opera, and becoming fiercely emotional when it was played - were absolute highlights.

And Leonard Nimoy - reprising his wonderful Spock - was flawless. His scenes with Patrick Stewart were wonderful.
 
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I also loved the scene where Picard requested a cloaked vessel from the Klingons; brilliant - and biting - diplomacy, reminding Gowron - ever so subtly - just exactly who had put him in power and how, (namely, his - Picard's - role as Arbiter of Succession) and that, as consequence, a favour could have been considered to have been owed.
 

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Just watched "Sarek" (STNG), the episode where it first became known that Sarek suffered from this condition.

The scenes where Sarek (Mark Lenard) and Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) conducted the mind meld, and Stewart's subsequent performance - where, as Picard, he suffered and struggled as a conduit for Sarek's powerful and uncontrollable emotions - kept company by the stalwart Dr Crusher (Gates McFadden) - were superb.
 

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Just watched "Sarek" (STNG), the episode where it first became known that Sarek suffered from this condition.

The scenes where Sarek (Mark Lenard) and Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) conducted the mind meld, and Stewart's subsequent performance - where, as Picard, he suffered and struggled as a conduit for Sarek's powerful and uncontrollable emotions - kept company by the stalwart Dr Crusher (Gates McFadden) - were superb.
That was an excellent and very moving episode.
 

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I've just recently bought the Star Trek Voyager boxed set. I look forward to renewing my acquaintanceship with this old friend. I watched every episode, when the series was screened by the BBC a few years ago, except one, which I somehow managed to miss. I thought it was a great ST strand at the time of its first screening here in the UK and hope I enjoy it as much second time round (not to mention finally getting to see that 'missing' episode). It may take me a while to get through all seven seasons, however.
 

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I've just recently bought the Star Trek Voyager boxed set. I look forward to renewing my acquaintanceship with this old friend. I watched every episode, when the series was screened by the BBC a few years ago, except one, which I somehow managed to miss. I thought it was a great ST strand at the time of its first screening here in the UK and hope I enjoy it as much second time round (not to mention finally getting to see that 'missing' episode). It may take me a while to get through all seven seasons, however.
Voyager is an excellent series and I think often underrated.

Enjoy!
 

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Thanks. I think that Voyager, Deep Space Nine and Next Generation all had their respective strengths and I liked them all when they were screened on television. Next Generation was a revelation when it launched and I think there were very high expectations for its successors. I believe that such expectations were met. I enjoyed Star Trek Enterprise too, though it seems like the 'poor second cousin' somehow, for others. Hated the theme song, though. It always improved after that!
 

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Looks like Patrick Stewart is reprising his role as Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1025840545216823296
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I've just recently bought the Star Trek Voyager boxed set. I look forward to renewing my acquaintanceship with this old friend. I watched every episode, when the series was screened by the BBC a few years ago, except one, which I somehow managed to miss. I thought it was a great ST strand at the time of its first screening here in the UK and hope I enjoy it as much second time round (not to mention finally getting to see that 'missing' episode). It may take me a while to get through all seven seasons, however.

Voyager is an excellent series and I think often underrated.

Enjoy!

Voyager had its weaknesses, but I have to admit I generally enjoyed it quite a bit. And I agree I think it’s somewhat underrated.

Looks like Patrick Stewart is reprising his role as Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1025840545216823296
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As our pointy eared friend might say....fascinating.
 

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Looks like Patrick Stewart is reprising his role as Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1025840545216823296
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The thing is, - and not only did some subsequent series appear to have forgotten this simple fact (and Gene Roddenberry had to be almost bludgeoned over the head to accept Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard - his template for captain was an alpha male action man, a Kirk type character, someone cast in the Riker mould - would STNG have been anything like as powerful, successful, thought-provoking and unforgettable had Jonathan Frakes - or someone cut from that cloth, handsome, dashing, a classic, clichéd leader - been cast as the captain?), but Patrick Stewart - a middle-aged, balding, Brit, a classically trained Shakespearean actor - was what, or, was who, made STNG into something special.

In other words, recruit good actors - properly trained actors - for these shows, not the standard template of flawless teeth, a tanned toned appearance, and chiselled jaw that some US shows think should reflect what a starship captain looks like.

That, plus good ensemble acting, some excellent - and intelligent - scripts and plots, and actors becoming increasingly familiar with, comfortable with, and at ease with, their respective characters.

I'm delighted to see Patrick Stewart back as Picard; he owned STNG and gave it a depth and strength and power that has made it still spoken of, (and - as is the case here - written about - over two decades later).
 
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I haven't found any details on this new Star Trek series, but it doesn't sound like it will be a part of DISCO, but a separate series altogether. It will be on CBS All Access like DISCO and "will be spearheaded by “Star Trek: Discovery” co-creator and executive producer Alex Kurtzman"
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I haven't found any details on this new Star Trek series, but it doesn't sound like it will be a part of DISCO, but a separate series altogether. It will be on CBS All Access like DISCO and "will be spearheaded by “Star Trek: Discovery” co-creator and executive producer Alex Kurtzman"
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Well, the "new" series (Discovery?) is not something I have heard much about This Side of the Pond; but Patrick Stewart reprising his role as Captain Picard is something I would go out of my way to watch.
 

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The thing is, - and not only did some subsequent series appear to have forgotten this simple fact (and Gene Roddenberry had to be almost bludgeoned over the head to accept Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard - his template for captain was an alpha male action man, a Kirk type character, someone cast in the Riker mould - would STNG have been anything like as powerful, successful, thought-provoking and unforgettable had Jonathan Frakes - or someone cut from that cloth, handsome, dashing, a classic, clichéd leader - been cast as the captain?), but Patrick Stewart - a middle-aged, balding, Brit, a classically trained Shakespearean actor - was what made STNG into something special.

That, plus good ensemble acting, some excellent - and intelligent - scripts and plots, and actors becoming increasingly familiar with, comfortable with, and at ease with, their respective characters.

I'm delighted to see Patrick Stewart back as Picard; he owned STNG and gave it a depth and strength that has made it still spoken of, (and - as is the case here - written about - over two decades later).
Well said. Patrick Stewart was the absolute perfect person for the role. 20 years or so removed from the 1960's era of overbearing alpha male acting and he, the person, and the character role was the best way forward. That's not to say I don't like Shatner as Kirk, because I do in his own way. In a sense, one could argue that the advancement of time in the United Federation of Planets between Kirk's time and Picard's time also represented a shift in our own culture and time, and in the right direction too.

Recently I've been re-watching TNG a lot again. It's such a marvelous show and even being "old" now it still resonates with the society and culture of today. That includes the set of the Enterprise; it still looks modern to me whereas the original Enterprise, while still great, looks dated with its furniture and analog technology. Naturally, in the 1960's that's all they had. Digital really wasn't a thing, of course.

But yes, Stewart was and still is the best Enterprise captain in the Star Trek universe. So glad to see he's coming back to the role.

Well, the "new" series (Discovery?) is not something I have heard much about This Side of the Pond; but Patrick Stewart reprising his role as Captain Picard is something I would go out of my way to watch.
This first season of DISCO is very good once you get toward the last few episodes and understand what's happening. But it's not the Star Trek of TOS or TNG. It's distinctly its own Star Trek and I think its doing well in its own right. I'm looking forward to the next season.
 
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Well, the "new" series (Discovery?) is not something I have heard much about This Side of the Pond; but Patrick Stewart reprising his role as Captain Picard is something I would go out of my way to watch.

I didn't particular like the first episode, so I didn't subscribe to CBS All Access when that became the only way to watch STD. However, I've heard good things about it since, so I'm very curious. I subscribe to HBO and Netflix, but I watch both fairly frequently. $9.99 a month for one series seems a bit much. It's also too bad that STD is only available on Netflix outside the U.S.A.
 
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I didn't particular like the first episode, so I didn't subscribe to CBS All Access when that became the only way to watch STD. However, I've heard good things about it since, so I'm very curious. I subscribe to HBO and Netflix, but I watch both fairly frequently. $9.99 a month for one series seems a bit much. It's also too bad that STD is only available on Netflix outside the U.S.A.
Option B is to subscribe for a month after the season is complete and bing watch it.
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Looks like Patrick Stewart is reprising his role as Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1025840545216823296
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I would consider paying for this, just not sure if I could wait till the season is complete to bing it, or subscribe for 3 months or however long the season runs.
[doublepost=1533483844][/doublepost]It will be interesting to see how they pick up the series with the much older Jean-Luc who should now be retired, or at a minimum, an Admiral. ;)
 

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I do hope in this new Picard series that they have John de Lancie return for some cameo's as Q. Always loved his appearances in TNG and Voyager.

Agreed.

The agent of chaos: Some of his episodes were hilarious.

I really enjoyed the episode with Vash, when Picard took a well-deserved break and found trouble all the same, but not necessarily the kind of trouble that Riker had hoped he would find.
 
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